Guys What should I do?> I need advice like crazy...I never thought I would be writing this email, but thanks to some amazing people at Gmatclub and God I am in a very confusing situation: - Full Ride from Darden Virginia - 50% (maybe even 75%, will know soon) from Ross Michigan - In at Chicago (no $, but will ask for some) My plans: I am young (24), just graduated in May last year, but have plenty (2 years) of full time work exp while in college I want to persue two things: consulting and enterprenuership Right after B-School I want to do consulting (preferably M/B/B in Europe or some less known companies in the States) for 2-3 years. After that I want to join my family company and take it from being a central european company to a fully pan european one (its a niche industry)...so i will transition to CEO/Managing Director after few years My problem: - I want to learn general management, marketing, enterprenuership, finance skills...preatty much all you need to run a company....all schools are excellent for that Chicago is a top school i got into, on pair with H/S/W/k... but, there are few things I have to consider: a) i am coming back to Poland after the mba + 2 years in consulting and i will be working with my father for a small/mid size business, you could say "entrepreneurial" ventures in this case, in poland, brand of MBA beyond Harvard does not matter that much cause people dont know the difference of course when i will meet and try to do business with high-up guys at major corporations (CEO, CFO, etc) then maybe if they come from the consulting background they willl know that chicago is ultra elite, but michigan is almost as good (just not as much tradition). Important question: Will I be able to get into MCK/BAIN/BCG consulting from all of them given my background, in US or in Europe (I think i have an excellent shot at their offices in poland, my home country, but want to stay in the us or western europe instead) ...Chicago is a core school for all of those companies (together with a hand full of others, HBS, stanford, mit, wharton, kellog, columbia) while michigan and darden are schools were they recruit quite heavily, but are not core schools...again it will probably not matter if i put warsaw as my desire location other info b) i like michigan and virginia 2-3 times more than chicago...i like the atmosphere of university town (just like charlottessville) not the atmosphere of grad school...dont get me wrong (Rhyme, j/k:)...its a great school...but i like college towns c) michigan and darden really want me, i got the Distinguished scholar award, 1/2 tuition at Ross, and Full ride from Batten Enterprenuership center at Darden...very selective awards d) michigan is a great place to learn about everything and anything...more structure program (electives=2nd year) virginia is based on case studies (which i like, not sure if i will like doing them all the time, but that is another story) chicago has only 1 required course! this could be good...but also not so good since I am not sure what the heck I want to learn (you know basic idea: operations, finance, intern. business, consulting, marketing...pretty much general education you need for both consulting and running a business) Chicago gives me options and prestigues, great analytical abilities, great network Ross and Darden atmosphere of small tight community (again personal preference), great gm programs, and $$$ e) all have great exchange programs in Europe and Asia, and I will definitely go to both (europe LBS or Insead, to acquire some relations with marketing people who will be high-up in few years in large corporations in europe, i want axpol to start selling directly to large corps in europe, Asia for experience and sourcing opportunities)...but Chicago has even a campus in London and in Asia! I need some advice, given my i think unique in a way plans folowing mba anyone with consulting inside??? thanks in advance i am gone drink some champaign now:) best lxa

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well pelihu...seems like we both got royal treatment from darden

are you coming for the admit week then?

so given that you got a full ride at darden, what are you plans now?

Was in the middle of posting my last message when yours was posted. Originally, I wasn't planning to go to the admit weekend because I was just there 2 weeks ago - I'm thinking it over now.

I believe I'm going to Darden. Unlike you, I don't have an admit at Chicago, and only a WL at Columbia. Darden was already in the lead, and with the full scholarship it's a pretty easy choice for me. I'm torn over whether to wait for Berkeley - but I can't imagine being lucky enough to get a similar scholarship there.

I really like the idea of being able to put on my resume "full tuition merit scholarship from the Batten Institute for Entrepreneurship" when I start my job hunt. I think that might be very attractive to PE/VC firms interested in investing in China (my area of experience), and Ibanks interested in starting/expanding their businesses there as well.

AWESOME!!!!!!!
Congratulations!

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nice, gmatclub got 2 Batten scholarships...wow...that rocks:)

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nice, gmatclub got 2 Batten scholarships...wow...that rocks:)

Congratulations too :D

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So wait... there are 3 batten scholarships, and two out of the three came from gmatclub?

Wow.

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So wait... there are 3 batten scholarships, and two out of the three came from gmatclub?

Wow.

Yeah, that is crazy. GMATclub rocks.

I was just looking over the Darden website and the top scholarship is actually the Darden Jefferson Scholarship which they give to 2 people per year. It's a full scholarship plus a research stipend, but you need to apply before Dec. 5, which was Early Decision or R1 I think.

For people applying this past round, it looks like the Batten is about as good as it gets, especially for people interested in entrepreneurship, or in financing entrepreneurship (VC/PE). I'm still kind of stunned actually, and really excited obviously. Slow start to the application season for me, but things have definitely picked up.

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so Darden doesnt offer other full rides during runds 2-3? just the batton scholarships? just curious

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ixa, pelihu I'm really happy for you guys....way to make the gmatclub shine! Hearty Congratulations!!

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So wait... there are 3 batten scholarships, and two out of the three came from gmatclub?

Wow.

Yeah, that is crazy. GMATclub rocks.

HEY we finally get to see the other dog!!!

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So wait... there are 3 batten scholarships, and two out of the three came from gmatclub?

Wow.

Yeah, that is crazy. GMATclub rocks.

HEY we finally get to see the other dog!!!

Yeah, you noticed. My other dog is a golden retriever (obviously). Everyone loves him because he's always got a big smile on his face.

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Nice snaps ...Pelihu

I love Labrador and retriver............they are the cutest

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Porterhouse right?
I had two goldens growing up, they're the friendliest dogs, when I have a picket fence and two and a half kids I'm definitely getting a couple golden retrievers.

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rhyme,

Nice GSB colored glasses, but the $'s really do matter. Particularly, given the situation that this individual will be in Poland in 4 years working for a family business. This is truly a decision between Ross & Darden and as many alluded to already, it is a personal choice of preference. Work Chicago for scholarship based upon your offers, but in no way is the school worth the extra money particularly given your preference of college towns.

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Porterhouse right?
I had two goldens growing up, they're the friendliest dogs, when I have a picket fence and two and a half kids I'm definitely getting a couple golden retrievers.

Actually, my older dog is named Porterhouse. My younger dog, the golden retriever pictured there, is named Elihu.

Ozmba, I like retrievers as well (obviously). Because of their breeding they are very loyal and they love to work with people so it's really easy to teach them things. Also, if they do something wrong, they can sense that you are angry and they genuinely want to please you.

For anyone thinking about adopting a dog, almost any type of retriever or retriever mix will make a great family dog. Labradors are the most common dog in the US and animal shelters are filled with labs and lab mixes.

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I think those who have full tution waiversfrom Darden should join it. Darden can give a career you want.
For me, I wish Notra Dame or Vanderbilt had given me a full tution scholarship, but both ding me so I do not think much about my choice.

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would it help if we all stop bloggin.. seems like we dont have a life...especially some bloggers here.. me included..i am a low gmat low gpa admitted to a top 10 school.. cheer up and this mba process is a piece if shhhhhh

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Fair enough. Deleted my post. However, to be clear, I told him that was what mattered most to me - and he should choose what matters most to him.

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rhyme...why did you delete your post? i enjoyed reading it, even thought i may have disagreed with some of your points, you have brought up some important aspects to the discussion...bring it back man

if not, send it to me through a pm, so that i can have it to consider your points (i was reading it last night after a bottle of wine, so dont remember the exact points, just that i enjoyed some of your thinking)

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I think that's one of his "many leather-bound books"

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I dont have them anymore... I'd have to rewrite it... I'll do it later .. You know what though, they are probably right - you should go to Darden or Ross since you'll just be going back home to work for the family business anyway.