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Hi,

B states that AE = 10 and triangle ABE is a right triangle. So it makes it a special case "side-based" right triangle where one of the lengths of the sides form ratios of whole numbers, such as 3 : 4 : 5.

Side AE = 10, which means that side AB = 6 and side BE = 8 (ratio 6:8:10 = ratio 3:4:5). Now knowing the sides, you can easily calculate the area which equals 24 < 25.
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You assume with no ground for it that the lengths of the sides are integers. Knowing that hypotenuse equals to 10 DOES NOT mean that the sides of the right triangle necessarily must be in the ratio of Pythagorean triple - 6:8:10. Or in other words: if \(a^2+b^2=10^2\) DOES NOT mean that \(a=6\) and \(b=8\), certainly this is one of the possibilities but definitely not the only one. In fact \(a^2+b^2=10^2\) has infinitely many solutions for \(a\) and \(b\) and only one of them is \(a=6\) and \(b=8\).

For example: \(a=1\) and \(b=\sqrt{99}\) or \(a=2\) and \(b=\sqrt{96}\) or \(a=4\) and \(b=\sqrt{84}\) ...

Hope it's clear.
This is what's so great about the forum. One's faulty assumptions get checked in time. In this case, I had also fallen into the trap of thinking that since hypotenuse is 10 the other sides are 8 and 6. As Bunuel points out, that's clearly the wrong way to think about this.

And knowing the isosceles-right triangle property certainly helps!
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Given that ABCD is a rectangle, is the area of triangle ABE > 25?
(Note: Figure above is not drawn to scale).
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(1) AB = 6
(2) AE = 10

How come the answer is B and not C? Can someone please explain?

PS: I tried the jpeg and bitmap format to attach the picture, but it says these two formats are not supported. Therefore attached the .pdf.

F.S 1 is clearly Insufficient.

Another approach for F.S 2 :

We know that \(a^2+c^2 = 10^2 \to a^2+c^2 = 100\)

Also, area of \(\triangle\) ABE - \(\frac{1}{2}*a*c\)

Is\(\frac{1}{2}*a*c>25 \to\) Is \(a*c>50 \to 2*a*c>100?\)

Is \(2*a*c>a^2+c^2 \to\) Is \((a-c)^2<0\). Of-course, the answer is NO.Sufficient.
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(1) AB = 6 --> clearly insufficient: BE can be 1 or 100.
(2) AE = 10 --> now, you should know one important property: the right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles, so for our case area of ABE will be maximized when AB=BE. So, let's try what is the largest area of a right isosceles triangle with hypotenuse equal to 10. Finding legs: x^2+x^2=10^2 (where x=AB=BE) --> x=\sqrt{50} --> area_{max}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{50}^2=25. Since it's the maximum area of ABE then the actual area can not be more than 25. Sufficient.

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Why cant the reasoning that a right triangle has greatest area when it is isosceles be applied to the first statement as well. Which says AB = 6, hence assuming BE = 6 we would get the area = 1/2*6*6 = 18 < 25
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(1) AB = 6 --> clearly insufficient: BE can be 1 or 100.
(2) AE = 10 --> now, you should know one important property: the right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles, so for our case area of ABE will be maximized when AB=BE. So, let's try what is the largest area of a right isosceles triangle with hypotenuse equal to 10. Finding legs: x^2+x^2=10^2 (where x=AB=BE) --> x=\sqrt{50} --> area_{max}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{50}^2=25. Since it's the maximum area of ABE then the actual area can not be more than 25. Sufficient.

Hi Bunnel,
Why cant the reasoning that a right triangle has greatest area when it is isosceles be applied to the first statement as well. Which says AB = 6, hence assuming BE = 6 we would get the area = 1/2*6*6 = 18 < 25

The property says: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles. Thus you cannot apply it to the first statement.
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Bunuel, have you encountered real gmat questions testing this concept: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles ?
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Hi Ergenekon,

This is a rarer concept (from the realm of Multi-Shape Geometry), but the GMAT has been known to test it.

The broader issue is more about comparing squares and rectangles though.

For example, compare the areas of this square and rectangles....

10x10
9x11
8x12

Areas:
(10)(10) = 100
(9)(11) = 99
(8)(12) = 96

By increasing one side and decreasing the other by an "equivalent amount", the area decreases.

When it does appear on the GMAT, it's often themed around 'percentage change' in side lengths (re: length is 10% greater, width is 10% less), but the pattern is still the same.

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For any right angled triangle the hypotenuse is the largest side and not only isosceles right?

Owing to the convention that the longest side is against the largest angle ?

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For any right angled triangle the hypotenuse is the largest side and not only isosceles right?

Owing to the convention that the longest side is against the largest angle ?

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Yes. The largest side is always against the largest angle. So, in any right triangle hypotenuse is the largest side.
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Bunuel A right-angled triangle has a maximum area when the triangle is isosceles. Similarly, An isosceles triangle has a maximum area when it is a right-angled triangle. So from (1) we have AB = 6. Let's assume BE = AB = 6 (Making it an isosceles triangle). Thus the are would be 1/2 x 6 x 6 = 18 < 25. Why is this thought process incorrect
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Bunuel A right-angled triangle has a maximum area when the triangle is isosceles. Similarly, An isosceles triangle has a maximum area when it is a right-angled triangle. So from (1) we have AB = 6. Let's assume BE = AB = 6 (Making it an isosceles triangle). Thus the are would be 1/2 x 6 x 6 = 18 < 25. Why is this thought process incorrect

The property says: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles. So, you can apply this property when the length of the hypotenuse is known. Thus you cannot apply it to the first statement.
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Bunuel A right-angled triangle has a maximum area when the triangle is isosceles. Similarly, An isosceles triangle has a maximum area when it is a right-angled triangle. So from (1) we have AB = 6. Let's assume BE = AB = 6 (Making it an isosceles triangle). Thus the are would be 1/2 x 6 x 6 = 18 < 25. Why is this thought process incorrect

Hi Hoozan,

In this particular DS question, there are a couple of things that should stand-out:

First, since we're dealing with a DS question, the picture is not necessarily drawn 'to scale' (meaning that side AB of the rectangle might be considerably shorter OR longer than side BC (and by extension, segment BE). Second, with the information in Fact 1, we only have one of the two legs of a right triangle, so we have no way of determining its exact area (nor how big that area can become). As segment BE gets smaller, the area of the triangle becomes smaller - and as BE gets bigger, the area of the triangle becomes bigger.

With the information in Fact 1, while it's certainly possible that triangle ABE is an isosceles, right triangle (with an area of 18), we have NO proof that that is actually the case. Again, as BE gets bigger, the area would increase above 18).

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Given that ABCD is a rectangle, is the area of triangle ABE > 25? (Note: Figure above is not drawn to scale).
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\(Area=\frac{1}{2}*AB*BE\)

(1) AB = 6 --> clearly insufficient: BE can be 1 or 100.

(2) AE = 10 --> now, you should know one important property: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles, so for our case area of ABE will be maximized when AB=BE. So, let's try what is the largest area of a right isosceles triangle with hypotenuse equal to 10. Finding legs: \(x^2+x^2=10^2\) (where x=AB=BE) --> \(x=\sqrt{50}\) --> \(area_{max}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{50}^2=25\). Since it's the maximum area of ABE then the actual area cannot be more than 25. Sufficient.

Answer: B.
Hi Bunuel,
As you mentioned that "for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles", will this be applicable for any given hypotenuse even if it's not a right angle? Just wanna have a better clarity on the concept. your help will be appreciated. TIA
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Given that ABCD is a rectangle, is the area of triangle ABE > 25? (Note: Figure above is not drawn to scale).
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\(Area=\frac{1}{2}*AB*BE\)

(1) AB = 6 --> clearly insufficient: BE can be 1 or 100.

(2) AE = 10 --> now, you should know one important property: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles, so for our case area of ABE will be maximized when AB=BE. So, let's try what is the largest area of a right isosceles triangle with hypotenuse equal to 10. Finding legs: \(x^2+x^2=10^2\) (where x=AB=BE) --> \(x=\sqrt{50}\) --> \(area_{max}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{50}^2=25\). Since it's the maximum area of ABE then the actual area cannot be more than 25. Sufficient.

Answer: B.
Hi Bunuel,
As you mentioned that "for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles", will this be applicable for any given hypotenuse even if it's not a right angle? Just wanna have a better clarity on the concept. your help will be appreciated. TIA

The hypotenuse is the side opposite the right angle in a triangle, so if a triangle is not a right triangle, it doesn’t have a hypotenuse. Also, this is a geometry question, which is no longer part of GMAT Focus, so you can ignore it altogether.
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\(Area=\frac{1}{2}*AB*BE\)

(1) AB = 6 --> clearly insufficient: BE can be 1 or 100.

(2) AE = 10 --> now, you should know one important property: for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles, so for our case area of ABE will be maximized when AB=BE. So, let's try what is the largest area of a right isosceles triangle with hypotenuse equal to 10. Finding legs: \(x^2+x^2=10^2\) (where x=AB=BE) --> \(x=\sqrt{50}\) --> \(area_{max}=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{50}^2=25\). Since it's the maximum area of ABE then the actual area cannot be more than 25. Sufficient.

Answer: B.
Hi Bunuel,
As you mentioned that "for a given length of the hypotenuse a right triangle has the largest area when it's isosceles", will this be applicable for any given hypotenuse even if it's not a right angle? Just wanna have a better clarity on the concept. your help will be appreciated. TIA

The hypotenuse is the side opposite the right angle in a triangle, so if a triangle is not a right triangle, it doesn’t have a hypotenuse. Also, this is a geometry question, which is no longer part of GMAT Focus, so you can ignore it altogether.

Oh right. My bad, that was a silly question. Thanks anyway. Also I thought GMAT will still have some geometric questions in the PS, so no geometry in DS only or not at all in GMAT focus?
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Oh right. My bad, that was a silly question. Thanks anyway. Also I thought GMAT will still have some geometric questions in the PS, so no geometry in DS only or not at all in GMAT focus?

Check these two topics:

  1. GMAT Syllabus for Focus Edition
  2. Geometry Tested on GMAT Focus?

While specific geometry knowledge is not tested on GMAT Focus, not everything involving shapes, volumes, or areas requires specialized geometry knowledge. The area of a square or rectangle, the volume of a cube or rectangular solid, and the Pythagorean theorem are not considered specific geometry knowledge by the GMAT and can still be tested. Moreover, a question can involve shapes but test another area, such as combinations or other topics. There are several questions involving these concepts in the GMAT Prep Focus mocks

Some aspects of coordinate geometry are also tested on GMAT Focus under the Functions tag.

The question at hand is a hard-core geometry question, so such questions are excluded.

Finally, pure algebraic questions are no longer a part of the DS syllabus of the GMAT.

DS questions in GMAT Focus encompass various types of word problems, such as:

  • Word Problems
  • Work Problems
  • Distance Problems
  • Mixture Problems
  • Percent and Interest Problems
  • Overlapping Sets Problems
  • Statistics Problems
  • Combination and Probability Problems

While these questions may involve or necessitate knowledge of algebra, arithmetic, inequalities, etc., they will always be presented in the form of word problems. You won’t encounter pure "algebra" questions like, "Is x > y?" or "A positive integer n has two prime factors..."

Check GMAT Syllabus for Focus Edition

You can also visit the Data Sufficiency forum and filter questions by OG 2024-2025, GMAT Prep (Focus), and Data Insights Review 2024-2025 sources to see the types of questions currently tested on the GMAT.

So, you can ignore this question.

Hope it helps.­
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