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1. https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/r ... 27685.html -- new, 74, 13 correct
2. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322982.html -- old, 79, 10 correct
3. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322641.html -- old, 82, 12 correct
4. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322047.html -- old, 85, 16 correct

2 questions --
1. the new algo mimics the scoring logic more closely or also the question placement logic?
2. ⁠the algo is throwing similar questions all at once -- can this happen in the real test too? (All DS questions bundled at the beginning, no MSR till the 16th question, even in Verbal 4-5 BF back to back)
the intent of asking these questions is - while these tests are good for practicing but how closer are the scores to the real thing?
I was thinking of booking the test this week, but with this mock result, the confidence level came down a little.
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DI Mocks data
1. https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/r ... 27685.html -- new, 74, 13 correct
2. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322982.html -- old, 79, 10 correct
3. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322641.html -- old, 82, 12 correct
4. ⁠https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/results-2322047.html -- old, 85, 16 correct

2 questions --
1. the new algo mimics the scoring logic more closely or also the question placement logic?
2. ⁠the algo is throwing similar questions all at once -- can this happen in the real test too? (All DS questions bundled at the beginning, no MSR till the 16th question, even in Verbal 4-5 BF at back to back)
Hi. In general the new algorithm is supposed to be more accurate - that’s the big picture. Today thanks to another user in this group, Rishm, I learned that a small number of new HARD questions were not marked as experimental so you got 1 of them served as well while being considered a medium level (this is addressed), so this had probably 1-2 points impact on your test.

In general, looking at your test, the old algorithm, you had a lot more hard questions (5) vs. this one had only 1. In the latest test you got 2 easy questions and you got one of them incorrect. You were doing well until you ran out of time. But I think the approach of guessing the last 5-6 questions is not the best approach. Here is a chart of your score:

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the intent of asking these questions is - while these tests are good for practicing but how closer are the scores to the real thing?
I was thinking of booking the test this week, but with this mock result, the confidence level came down a little.
I would Highly suggest taking a GMAT Prep to establish the test accuracy - GMAT Prep is super helpful for doing that and being a second data point to confirm/reject. You should have gotten a higher score but one question torpedoed you. We should have some updates coming this next week (including spreading out the questions by type - right now the system picks the best questions and there are a lot more DI questions in the database they tend to be the closest ones to pick at first, and then it starts picking the other questions that match the parameters). It is working correctly technically speaking but that results in some cases into a stacked list of questions where it serves each question by type - something we learned only earlier this week as this also did not come up in testing... so I would suggest waiting another week to book your test. Ideally take a GMAT Prep and if you don’t have a spare GMAT Prep test, wait until Thursday or Friday to take another test as by then the order of questions will be more natural (though it will be a bit forced but that’s the more appropriate approach. Just in case, I have extended your subscription by a week just in case. But meanwhile, use this result to motivate yourself to study harder and be a bit more paranoid - that will only help!
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siddharth_, I would also suggest reviewing your mistakes of the easy/medium questions. I see you have been able to handle pretty hard loads in the past in this test for example: https://gmatclub.com/gmat-focus-tests/r ... 22047.html so not sure why you ran out of steam in this test - was that just a timing issue?
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> the intent of asking these questions is - while these tests are good for practicing but how closer are the scores to the real thing?
> I was thinking of booking the test this week, but with this mock result, the confidence level came down a little.
I would Highly suggest taking a GMAT Prep to establish the test accuracy - GMAT Prep is super helpful for doing that and being a second data point to confirm/reject. You should have gotten a higher score but one question torpedoed you. We should have some updates coming this next week (including spreading out the questions by type - right now the system picks the best questions and there are a lot more DI questions in the database they tend to be the closest ones to pick at first, and then it starts picking the other questions that match the parameters). It is working correctly technically speaking but that results in some cases into a stacked list of questions where it serves each question by type - something we learned only earlier this week as this also did not come up in testing... so I would suggest waiting another week to book your test. Ideally take a GMAT Prep and if you don’t have a spare GMAT Prep test, wait until Thursday or Friday to take another test as by then the order of questions will be more natural (though it will be a bit forced but that’s the more appropriate approach. Just in case, I have extended your subscription by a week just in case. But meanwhile, use this result to motivate yourself to study harder and be a bit more paranoid - that will only help!
thanks for the detailed response @bb 🙏🏻

i feel like i was not served the hard ones in this test - if you see the test served all the mid level questions up until the 15th question and then I started running out of time.
while in the earlier test I was served a lot of hard questions from the beginning which then I got correct.

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Also, why is the algo assessing the ability drop around 4th and 5th questions? Has this got to do with timing? Then why is it assessing a rise 7th question onward even though I answered it incorrectly?
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i feel like i was not served the hard ones in this test - if you see the test served all the mid level questions up until the 15th question and then I started running out of time.
while in the earlier test I was served a lot of hard questions from the beginning which then I got correct.
That’s right - system frontloaded a number of experimental questions so when it came to increase the difficulty you got 7 and 8 wrong, so it went down quite a bit and then started recovering again and by the time you were getting to the hard questions you ran out of time. You should have the time however since most questions of the average/medium ability except M36-21
which was coded incorrectly.

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Also, why is the algo assessing the ability drop around 4th and 5th questions? Has this got to do with timing? Then why is it assessing a rise 7th question onward even though I answered it incorrectly?
Hi. it is not due to timing. The list only contains 16 questions and excludes 4 experimental that were served on this exam to you (this number varies but 4 is the max possible and most time it will be 2). So the numbers you are looking at are shifted, so remove 4 questions from the first 6. The only reason for increase/decrease is accuracy of the answer.

Basically your number 3 and 4 were incorrect but then you recovered and if you maintained that level and did not run out of time you would have had a 70th percentile or smth like that.
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> https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/u ... 5805a0281f
> Also, why is the algo assessing the ability drop around 4th and 5th questions? Has this got to do with timing? Then why is it assessing a rise 7th question onward even though I answered it incorrectly?
Hi. it is not due to timing. The list only contains 16 questions and excludes 4 experimental that were served on this exam to you (this number varies but 4 is the max possible and most time it will be 2). So the numbers you are looking at are shifted, so remove 4 questions from the first 6. The only reason for increase/decrease is accuracy of the answer.
okay, got it. Thanks again @bb !
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Can someone help me with this question its from Mock 3
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Can someone help me with this question its from Mock 3
Please search the forum. This question is discussed here: if-denotes-the-least-integer-greater-than-or-equal-to-x-171746.html Hope it helps.
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If x would have been -2, x/2 will be -1 and greatest integer greater than or equal to -1 would be -1, not 0.
X/2 needs to be between 0 and -1, in order for the function to give 0.
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Hey @[email protected] I took a mock yesterday with the new algo and the first 5 questions in my CR section were bold face and 6/8 questions were bold face. All the 4 RC’s also came up together; is this possible on the real exam since the nee algo is supposed to be a truer representation of the actual test?
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Hello!! I wanted to ask if gmat club test scoring getting more harsher after gmat club upgraded the test system?
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Hi @bb,
I just took my full mock using new adaptive engine.

Surprisingly, I got 7 boldface questions in my verbal! It was time consuming and overall got V89 inspite of getting 16 right.

As few users wanted to clarify above, I too have the doubt if the new engine is scoring harshly?

In DI as well I did not get MSR till the end and most DS and TPA question were concentrated at the start.

Appreciate any info on this
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Hi @bb,
I just took my full mock using new adaptive engine.

Surprisingly, I got 7 boldface questions in my verbal! It was time consuming and overall got V89 inspite of getting 16 right.

As few users wanted to clarify above, I too have the doubt if the new engine is scoring harshly?

In DI as well I did not get MSR till the end and most DS and TPA question were concentrated at the start.

Appreciate any info on this
Should we stop with GMAT tests until this stabilizes?
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I got V75 despite getting 15 correct, but many of them were on easy difficulty level. Even if I made many correct choice in a row it did not raise the level..
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Fyi.. this actually did work..
So as per the text in this image we could give these mock twice only ? I thought we could give unlimited time and after 2 times question may start repeating is that correct or wrong? now I feel for mock 3,4,5 & 6 we have just 2 attempts only. Any correction suggestion on my understanding?
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> https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/u ... 9ccfad2c8b
> Fyi.. this actually did work..
So as per the text in this image we could give these mock twice only ? I thought we could give unlimited time and after 2 times question may start repeating is that correct or wrong? now I feel for mock 3,4,5 & 6 we have just 2 attempts only. Any correction suggestion on my understanding?
It's correct info.
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> https://s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com/u ... 9ccfad2c8b
> Fyi.. this actually did work..
So as per the text in this image we could give these mock twice only ? I thought we could give unlimited time and after 2 times question may start repeating is that correct or wrong? now I feel for mock 3,4,5 & 6 we have just 2 attempts only. Any correction suggestion on my understanding?
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