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Hi all,
Currently I am stuck in prep, as I am taking 4-5 mins in Dist and speed 705-805+ level questions, does anybody have any solution regarding that?
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Currently I am stuck in prep, as I am taking 4-5 mins in Dist and speed 705-805+ level questions, does anybody have any solution regarding that?
Use ratios approach
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This exam pack is legit??

Fyi.. this actually did work..
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My score has fallen considerably in the newer addition of the algo

I think all have observed this
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My score has fallen considerably in the newer addition of the algo
Which score? Q, V, DI?

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I am curious. Not everyone had score drop - I have seen people get Q85 with 3 incorrect in Quant.
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I had 3 wrong in DI and I got Q76

4 in Verbal but it is V81
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I will take a look.
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I think lots had faced this

Hence even I tried out

@bb you can check previous chats to see
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@bb curious to know if there is any survey or study to check whether the scores post implementation of the new algo mirror the actual test. A lot of us are scoring lower than were previously with the question types also being vague on some of the tests e.g. repetitive types of questions in quants which were answered incorrectly in the same test, too many boldfaces/ must be true etc.

Thanks in advance for your help :)
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@bb curious to know if there is any survey or study to check whether the scores post implementation of the new algo mirror the actual test. A lot of us are scoring lower than were previously with the question types also being vague on some of the tests e.g. repetitive types of questions in quants which were answered incorrectly in the same test, too many boldfaces/ must be true etc.

Thanks in advance for your help :)
Hi. Yes it is a good idea - the survey results will come from actual test results. So it will be a survey of users who have attempted the real GMAT to calibrate the scores and see how they did.

The algorithm is being a bit conservative right now and it gives you the lower end of your range. Meaning that there’s always a certain uncertainty on the test and GMAC calls it a standard error. Think about it as a certainty interval where the algorithm says here’s your score and I am about 90% certain in it but if you want the greatest certainty then there is a 99% certainty that you are plus minus 1 point. And the algorithm right now is taking the more conservative approach and it gives you the -1 point so to speak. In certain situations it’s even more precise than one point and in other situations where a person tiles are highly packed together or closely packed together then there may even be a plus -2 points it all depends on standard error parameter and the percentile distribution. So right now the algorithm is on the conservative side. However the impact is usually just one point.


PS. , it’s usually hard to explain the score without seeing it so I’m always trying to pull the logs behind the test to see what the test did and then try to explain it that way.

I hope Rishm does not mind if I use a bit of his test results since he disclosed his scores to explain the scoring. 😇

Give me a bit more time to put the screenshots together and charts. It’s a manual process 😇
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Hi. Yes it is a good idea - the survey results will come from actual test results. So it will be a survey of users who have attempted the real GMAT to calibrate the scores and see how they did.

The algorithm is being a bit conservative right now and it gives you the lower end of your range. Meaning that there’s always a certain uncertainty on the test and GMAC calls it a standard error. Think about it as a certainty interval where the algorithm says here’s your score and I am about 90% certain in it but if you want the greatest certainty then there is a 99% certainty that you are plus minus 1 point. And the algorithm right now is taking the more conservative approach and it gives you the -1 point so to speak. In certain situations it’s even more precise than one point and in other situations where a person tiles are highly packed together or closely packed together then there may even be a plus -2 points it all depends on standard error parameter and the percentile distribution. So right now the algorithm is on the conservative side. However the impact is usually just one point.


PS. , it’s usually hard to explain the score without seeing it so I’m always trying to pull the logs behind the test to see what the test did and then try to explain it that way.

I hope Rishm does not mind if I use a bit of his test results since he disclosed his scores to explain the scoring. 😇
@bb and gmat club team appreciate your dedication and efforts 🤩
But BB due to some skewness in question type like we are getting 4 6 boldface questions as mentioned earlier because of experimental questions addition or something it may happen write these scores are not that accurate ?

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Hey! One reason we identified is that the addition of experimental questions without type checks caused a bit of skewness across certain topic types. The team is already working on balancing the distribution.

Thanks for flagging it though 🙂
This issue still persists right ? So it may hamper the score accuracy ? Or is it fixed now ?
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@bb and gmat club team appreciate your dedication and efforts 🤩
But BB due to some skewness in question type like we are getting 4 6 boldface questions as mentioned earlier because of experimental questions addition or something it may happen write these scores are not that accurate ?
@bb @hr just wanted to take a moment and thank you. We all appreciate the work that the team has put in to constantly support us throughout
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I think lots had faced this

Hence even I tried out

@bb you can check previous chats to see

Hi Rishm,

I have analyzed your last DI test and I saw your earlier DI test from march - these were very different tests.
On the one in March you have answered almost everything correctly besides 2 questions.

On this test things have gone in a very different direction and I have no clue why. Maybe not as serious or focused?

Basically the first half of the test was a struggle.
You have missed mostly easy/medium questions and they were below average most of the time)
Here is a chart for DI. By the time the system gave some hard questions (#13, 14, 15, and 16).
There were 4 experimental items on this test so that's why only 16 items. I did see that one of the mistakes that you made was on a question that should have been marked as experimental (it was a hard one) but it was served with medium difficulty. So you got sabotaged there - this likely did cost a few points. Sorry about that! I have gone through all questions in the database and found a few other tough DS that were not labelled properly as experimental (it is a manually set flag). This is fixed now.

By the way, the early mistake in #2 was not a huge setback, you recovered within 1 question basically but #6 and 7 again made the test doubt your abilities, so down it went again and then started recovering and you did awesome at the end! However, the test had to decide how to grade you even though it is almost like 2 different people took the test. Did you feel that way?

P.S. Sorry it took so long - I kept checking questions, question bank, etc to see why this result. The only discrepancy I found was a human error with the question labeling. So yes, you are correct in terms of the score being harsh in this case but the next one should not be. However the 2 other questions you missed were legitimately medium/easy difficulty.




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Oh thanks 👍

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Hi https://gmatclub.com:443/forum/memberli ... e&un=Rishm,

I have analyzed your last DI test and I saw your earlier DI test from march - these were very different tests.
On the one in March you have answered almost everything correctly besides 2 questions.

On this test things have gone in a very different direction and I have no clue why. Maybe not as serious or focused?

Basically the first half of the test was a struggle.
You have missed mostly easy/medium questions and they were below average most of the time)
Here is a chart for DI. By the time the system gave some hard questions (#13, 14, 15, and 16).
There were 4 experimental items on this test so that's why only 16 items. I did see that one of the mistakes that you made was on a question that should have been marked as experimental (it was a hard one) but it was served with medium difficulty. So you got sabotaged there - this likely did cost a few points. Sorry about that! I have gone through all questions in the database and found a few other tough DS that were not labelled properly as experimental (it is a manually set flag). This is fixed now.

By the way, the early mistake in #2 was not a huge setback, you recovered within 1 question basically but #6 and 7 again made the test doubt your abilities, so down it went again and then started recovering and you did awesome at the end! However, the test had to decide how to grade you even though it is almost like 2 different people took the test. Did you feel that way?

P.S. Sorry it took so long - I kept checking questions, question bank, etc to see why this result. The only discrepancy I found was a human error with the question labeling. So yes, you are correct in terms of the score being harsh in this case but the next one should not be. However the 2 other questions you missed were legitimately medium/easy difficulty.
Too much work that's why 🙃
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Oh thanks 👍
So yes, your score should be higher and I’ll go through your quant and verbal as well but probably later tonight only or tomorrow. I think I need to create some templates or something like that so I can quickly do analysis because every time it’s from scratch 🥴
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Yeah

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