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I've been trying to get a hold of GMAT for the past one hour and teh phones are busy and the chat lines are also busy.

My ETS account isn't logging in and its super slow. Wonder if there is a lot of traffic on the ETS website with people trying to book the exam date?
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GRE OFFICIALLY AT HOME, WILL GMAT FOLLOW?!

I don't think so, it's so easy to record the questions.

University are starting to not request gmat for the application processes.

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Yeah. Makes sense. Considering the amount of $$ they spend on each question, I doubt if they will allow exam at home
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Merged some stray topics. Please keep all "GMAT at Home" discussions here. Thank you :-)
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I firmly believe that this will be the norm moving forward. This is going to be one of those disruptive events that will change the course of history. Well at least in North America.

Just immagine from a business perspective. The $$ GMAC. LSAC and ETS could save from not renting out testing centers and paying its employees? Not to mention the stationary? They could job out the proctoring to Mexico for instance. I work in manufacturing and I've already seen such disruptive events that have led to plant closures.

Not to mention the amount of money they would have access to and how easy it will be for them to get money from its customers. Think paypal and the whole ATM industries transition to online banking and the rapid flow of $$.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think this is here to stay and we should all get used to the new "Home testing methodology". :tongue_opt1 ;) :cool:
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Update: this morning I have spoken with technical support representatives from both UProctor and ETS. The former said that "Windows is not a must, but if ETS mandates Windows, then it is a must". The latter said that Windows is a must. I asked about Mac computer running Windows, but the support rep insisted that the computer has to be a Windows machine.

So, unless one wants to experiment with bootcamp on Mac and have a Windows machine next to him in the room, I dare say Windows is a must for the "GRE at home" test.
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That is so funny. The lady in the video is operating on a Mac Book lol Will ETS shoot a new video now? ;)
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Lol. One has to incur costs to enforce strict adherence to rules and regulations, unless you want GRE exams to be treated as proctored MGMAT mocks. It just took one person to create a massive pandemic. Similarly, it takes one person to replicate the questions and distribute them to the masses. I hope ETS is taking adequate measures to ensure that their question database remains authentic.

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I firmly believe that this will be the norm moving forward. This is going to be one of those disruptive events that will change the course of history. Well at least in North America.

Just immagine from a business perspective. The $$ GMAC. LSAC and ETS could save from not renting out testing centers and paying its employees? Not to mention the stationary? They could job out the proctoring to Mexico for instance. I work in manufacturing and I've already seen such disruptive events that have led to plant closures.

Not to mention the amount of money they would have access to and how easy it will be for them to get money from its customers. Think paypal and the whole ATM industries transition to online banking and the rapid flow of $$.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think this is here to stay and we should all get used to the new "Home testing methodology". :tongue_opt1 ;) :cool:
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ari.banerjee haha, good catch! It seems that "Windows only" restriction comes from the ETS side because their tool can only run on Windows. I wonder, though, if Windows on Mac will work just fine. Having dealt with support teams in the past, I can posit that it is not uncommon for support people to not fully understand a question / issue. So, maybe ETS tool will work fine on Windows that is running on Mac through bootcamp / VirtualBox. Who knows.

Also, I have registered for the "GRE at home" test this morning without any waiting time, the website worked just fine, and there were plenty of registration spots starting from March 27th all the way up until end of April (I did not check May). Also, one can even take a test during the weekend. What can I say? ETS indeed disrupted the test taking industry literally overnight.
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Lol. One has to incur costs to enforce strict adherence to rules and regulations, unless you want GRE exams to be treated as proctored MGMAT mocks. It just took one person to create a massive pandemic. Similarly, it takes one person to replicate the questions and distribute them to the masses. I hope ETS is taking adequate measures to ensure that their question database remains authentic.

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I firmly believe that this will be the norm moving forward. This is going to be one of those disruptive events that will change the course of history. Well at least in North America.

Just immagine from a business perspective. The $$ GMAC. LSAC and ETS could save from not renting out testing centers and paying its employees? Not to mention the stationary? They could job out the proctoring to Mexico for instance. I work in manufacturing and I've already seen such disruptive events that have led to plant closures.

Not to mention the amount of money they would have access to and how easy it will be for them to get money from its customers. Think paypal and the whole ATM industries transition to online banking and the rapid flow of $$.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think this is here to stay and we should all get used to the new "Home testing methodology". :tongue_opt1 ;) :cool:
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I think there will always be a few bad apples who will try to cheat. I know that in LSAT there are many test takers every year who get someone to try to impersonate the student and take exams on their behalf. But the penalties for such behaviors are extreme. In any case, even if you run a python script in the background I dont think copying 30-40 qs out of a question bank of thousands of qs will effect the over all curve. You can record qs and screenshot stuff sure but how will you distribute it? Where will you sell it and who will be your buyer?

Not very long ago I rem a guy on GMATCLUB asking for a pdf or pirated version of MGMAT books or Kaplan books and he was immediately blocked and ostracized. I think there are more people in favor of this and the convenience it brings to students lives than those who oppose them. Also, I dont think that a few ingeneous cheaters who will find a way to cheat regardless will quite effect the overall percentiles of GRE or GMAT.

If that were the case then what about the fact that every year there are several GMAT prep company experts who take the exam and score 780 and above, one could argue that isnt fair either but in the bigger picture these scores dont effect the over all percentiles out of 600000 test takers or so either. I dont think that a few people cheating and distributing a very small no: of qs from a huge data base will really effect the final result. But only time will tell how this whole thing plays out...
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ari.banerjee haha, good catch! It seems that "Windows only" restriction comes from the ETS side because their tool can only run on Windows. I wonder, though, if Windows on Mac will work just fine. Having dealt with support teams in the past, I can posit that it is not uncommon for support people to not fully understand a question / issue. So, maybe ETS tool will work fine on Windows that is running on Mac through bootcamp / VirtualBox. Who knows.

Also, I have registered for the "GRE at home" test this morning without any waiting time, the website worked just fine, and there were plenty of registration spots starting from March 27th all the way up until end of April (I did not check May). Also, one can even take a test during the weekend. What can I say? ETS indeed disrupted the test taking industry literally overnight.
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Thats awesome! whens your test date?

I am still waiting for GMAT to come up with something but if nothing is announced by the end of the week then I will go ahead and book my GRE test date as well. I agree GRE has stepped it up and showed true leadership in the face of adversity.
Please let us all know how your exam goes and good luck!

P.S: I read that you can not read qs out loud. That will be a big problem for me coz I like reading RCs out but in a low volume that doesnt bother anyone else lol I will have to rethink some strategies haha
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There are numerous ways to distribute those questions. We will be the buyers knowingly or unknowingly. And it's not about just 30 or 40 questions. If the process is repeated, the entire question bank can be exhausted.
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I think there will always be a few bad apples who will try to cheat. I know that in LSAT there are many test takers every year who get someone to try to impersonate the student and take exams on their behalf. But the penalties for such behaviors are extreme. In any case, even if you run a python script in the background I dont think copying 30-40 qs out of a question bank of thousands of qs will effect the over all curve. You can record qs and screenshot stuff sure but how will you distribute it? Where will you sell it and who will be your buyer?
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Thanks ari.banerjee. I will keep the community posted. If anything, this will be a somewhat experimental test for me. Also, I consider installing Windows on my Mac and keeping a Windows laptop as a backup. Let me see whether I can figure things quickly as I still want to spend some time reviewing GRE question types :)
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I don’t side with you at all. This home thing should take a second look by ETS though that’s not my lane. I hope GMAC won’t do this ,should find a better alternative.
Folks are very smart in this tech age
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Lol. One has to incur costs to enforce strict adherence to rules and regulations, unless you want GRE exams to be treated as proctored MGMAT mocks. It just took one person to create a massive pandemic. Similarly, it takes one person to replicate the questions and distribute them to the masses. I hope ETS is taking adequate measures to ensure that their question database remains authentic.

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I firmly believe that this will be the norm moving forward. This is going to be one of those disruptive events that will change the course of history. Well at least in North America.

Just immagine from a business perspective. The $$ GMAC. LSAC and ETS could save from not renting out testing centers and paying its employees? Not to mention the stationary? They could job out the proctoring to Mexico for instance. I work in manufacturing and I've already seen such disruptive events that have led to plant closures.

Not to mention the amount of money they would have access to and how easy it will be for them to get money from its customers. Think paypal and the whole ATM industries transition to online banking and the rapid flow of $$.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think this is here to stay and we should all get used to the new "Home testing methodology". :tongue_opt1 ;) :cool:

I think there will always be a few bad apples who will try to cheat. I know that in LSAT there are many test takers every year who get someone to try to impersonate the student and take exams on their behalf. But the penalties for such behaviors are extreme. In any case, even if you run a python script in the background I dont think copying 30-40 qs out of a question bank of thousands of qs will effect the over all curve. You can record qs and screenshot stuff sure but how will you distribute it? Where will you sell it and who will be your buyer?

Not very long ago I rem a guy on GMATCLUB asking for a pdf or pirated version of MGMAT books or Kaplan books and he was immediately blocked and ostracized. I think there are more people in favor of this and the convenience it brings to students lives than those who oppose them. Also, I dont think that a few ingeneous cheaters who will find a way to cheat regardless will quite effect the overall percentiles of GRE or GMAT.

If that were the case then what about the fact that every year there are several GMAT prep company experts who take the exam and score 780 and above, one could argue that isnt fair either but in the bigger picture these scores dont effect the over all percentiles out of 600000 test takers or so either. I dont think that a few people cheating and distributing a very small no: of qs from a huge data base will really effect the final result. But only time will tell how this whole thing plays out...
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Thanks ari.banerjee. I will keep the community posted. If anything, this will be a somewhat experimental test for me. Also, I consider installing Windows on my Mac and keeping a Windows laptop as a backup. Let me see whether I can figure things quickly as I still want to spend some time reviewing GRE question types :)
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I hope it works out for you.

I have been reviewing the qs types too and I find this website very helpful https://www.greenlighttestprep.com

Brent at https://www.gmatprepnow.com/ has created a brilliant GRE study guide. Most of the videos are free and you can find official guide links based on difficulty levels that will take you to the https://greprepclub.com/ website where you can find gmatclub type solution and discussions.

Brent Hanneson is amazing and his videos are the best! Hope it helps! :blushing


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[quote="Staphyk"]I don’t side with you at all. This home thing should take a second look by ETS though that’s not my lane. I hope GMAC won’t do this ,should find a better alternative.
Folks are very smart in this tech age [quote="ari.banerjee"][quote="Vyshak"]Lol. One has to incur costs to enforce strict adherence to rules and regulations, unless you want GRE exams to be treated as proctored MGMAT mocks. It just took one person to create a massive pandemic. Similarly, it takes one person to replicate the questions and distribute them to the masses. I hope ETS is taking adequate measures to ensure that their question database remains authentic.


This could be a very good flaw or evaluate CR question in the future haha ;)
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Lolx why most folks here link what I say to CR. I bet you I don’t have CR in mind whenever I utter a word or make statements. :-D

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There are numerous ways to distribute those questions. We will be the buyers knowingly or unknowingly. And it's not about just 30 or 40 questions. If the process is repeated, the entire question bank can be exhausted.
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I think there will always be a few bad apples who will try to cheat. I know that in LSAT there are many test takers every year who get someone to try to impersonate the student and take exams on their behalf. But the penalties for such behaviors are extreme. In any case, even if you run a python script in the background I dont think copying 30-40 qs out of a question bank of thousands of qs will effect the over all curve. You can record qs and screenshot stuff sure but how will you distribute it? Where will you sell it and who will be your buyer?
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Right. For GRE, their questions are not adaptive. They use the same medium-level section, followed by one of three sections with different difficulty levels. And they probably change sections every 1-2 weeks. Leaking those questions out can have severe consequences.
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Test takers (ETS/GMAC) may show prudence or make blunder. Now, business schools have to decide that what is fair, transparent, and devoid of scope to cheat.

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How about this, I am going to take the new GMAT from home :P, while at the same time being on the phone with GMATNinja in my teeny tiny airpods :D
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We could probably make a small fortune selling GMAT Ninja "hearing aids." :-o

Bummer that I actually have morals about things like that! Otherwise, I'd be able to spend the rest of my life drinking quarantinis on a yacht in the South Pacific. ;)

In all seriousness, I do worry that this will cause all sorts of test security issues. I'm THRILLED that this option is available, but I'm curious to see if it'll have staying power once the world returns to normal.
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Updated the topic and split off the GMAT portion of the discussion.
GMAT portion is here: https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-at-home ... 19048.html
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I just hope that people behind this online GRE have at least tested this concept among 40-50 mock test takers to find out what issues can crop up else first 100 test takers of the online version might become guinea pigs.
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