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# HBS Debate - Hype or Lasting Value?

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17 Feb 2009, 09:10
Where the HBS Learning Model Falls Short
A student ponders the HBS learning model and identifies strategic areas of opportunity on latest HARBUS
1) Weak link to the mission statement
2) Lack of higher order, intellectual discussion
3) Effect of Globalization
4) No interaction with Executive Education
5) One size fits all approach
6) Few opportunities to process what we learn

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/stora ... 3690.shtml

The Case Method: Hype or Lasting Value?
The Case Method's Lasting Influence Across Harvard

The Case Method has long been a unique selling point for Harvard Business School. Where did this method come from? How do other Harvard Graduate Schools use the Case Method and how to students perceive its benefits? This article attempts to answer some of these questions.

http://media.www.harbus.org/media/stora ... 3703.shtml

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17 Feb 2009, 11:11
First off, let me caveat this post by saying, I have never been to Harvard, only know a couple of people who have attended and DO NOT consider my self an expert of business education.

The first article brings up an interesting question. What constitutes a better business school? One that brings in the very best top performers from across the globe, puts them through the paces, brands HBS on their foreheads and them links them up with the very best companies. Or, one that brings in very capable students, puts them through an educational and transformational process teaching them how to think and be world leaders, then puts them in touch with many of the very same companies?

I think Harvard is a very good school, but how much of that is because they can cherry pick the people that they want (both professors and students). I've always heard, that the people that go to Harvard to get their MBAs don't really need to go to Harvard to be successful. If that's the case, one could argue that Harvard isn't really "doing" that much to make these people better business leaders.

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26 Feb 2009, 09:44
I was just thinking about this the other day. Is HBS really influencing these cream of the crop type leaders? or just looking at their career trends, taking advantage of who they think has the greatest chance of becoming super successful in the near future and then writing HBS on their resumes?

The ability to cherry pick who attends to an extreme point (I think the attendance rate of accepted students is only second to S) gives them a clear advantage when it comes to having grads in leading positions all over the world.

So really, should you work that hard to get into B-school in the first place? besides the clear stamp of certification that comes with being admitted to a top school, there's not much of a reason for the quantum career jump you're supposed to experience after grad.

I think this may be partly a self fullfilling prophecy. i.e. HBS is great --> therefore a gazillion amazing ppl apply --> therefore their student pool is THAT much more qualified than at other schools --> therefore HBS is great. You get the idea.

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First off, let me caveat this post by saying, I have never been to Harvard, only know a couple of people who have attended and DO NOT consider my self an expert of business education.

The first article brings up an interesting question. What constitutes a better business school? One that brings in the very best top performers from across the globe, puts them through the paces, brands HBS on their foreheads and them links them up with the very best companies. Or, one that brings in very capable students, puts them through an educational and transformational process teaching them how to think and be world leaders, then puts them in touch with many of the very same companies?

I think Harvard is a very good school, but how much of that is because they can cherry pick the people that they want (both professors and students). I've always heard, that the people that go to Harvard to get their MBAs don't really need to go to Harvard to be successful. If that's the case, one could argue that Harvard isn't really "doing" that much to make these people better business leaders.

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26 Feb 2009, 10:07
On a related note, it'll be interesting to see how this move to go significantly younger will impact HBS's brand w/ recruiters. Many recruiters are looking for people with at least 3-5 years of experience, and my friend at HBS says there is growing frustration amongst recruiters that there are fewer and fewer of these people at HBS. It'll be interesting to see if recruiters begin to shift their focus towards other business schools that haven't made as dramatic a shift towards younger candidates or if recruiteres re-think their qualifications criteria related to HBS recruiting.

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26 Feb 2009, 10:22
It's a good question to ponder.

Right now the trend is to shift from mature applicants (traditional avg of 5+ yrs of WE @ matriculation) to younger applicants (avg of 2-3+ yrs of WE @ matriculation) in a lot of schools.

Main reason behind the moves?
1) Compete with law and med school for talented young applicants
2) To attract female applicants

However, if this trend backfires on the bschool - due to dissatisfaction from recruiters - I can see the trend reversing back to the original trend.

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On a related note, it'll be interesting to see how this move to go significantly younger will impact HBS's brand w/ recruiters. Many recruiters are looking for people with at least 3-5 years of experience, and my friend at HBS says there is growing frustration amongst recruiters that there are fewer and fewer of these people at HBS. It'll be interesting to see if recruiters begin to shift their focus towards other business schools that haven't made as dramatic a shift towards younger candidates or if recruiteres re-think their qualifications criteria related to HBS recruiting.

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26 Feb 2009, 15:50
So is this "going younger" trend happening across the board?
If not, which schools are doing it more than others?

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26 Feb 2009, 16:00
cul3s wrote:
So is this "going younger" trend happening across the board?
If not, which schools are doing it more than others?

That depends on each school.

This article explains the trend in a way.

http://www.insidehighered.com/layout/se ... /09/17/mba
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