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Where should KK go?

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i've got tons of friends going into finance roles. All the big ones recruit, and spend lots of money on it and bring lots of staff down when they do. Our week on wall street had a big number of students. i can't speak to UCLA, but I can tell you that both finance and consulting are strongly represented. If you want to get in touch with someone from either industry - or any other - please do let me know.

Aau - Many of the top recruiters at Duke (J&J, kraft etc) would generally recruit for health/mktg neither of which I want to get into. Do you have any details on what sector the top 3/5 MC firms recruit for? My concern is that Duke's reputation in Mktg. and Health might have an impact on what kind of profiles these firms are looking for. Having spent 5+ yrs in IT I want to be reasonably certain that I don't end up doing IT consulting again. I do know that it'll depend on what I bring to the table but wanted to know if you were aware of any trends in this regard.
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That's a good question. I don't necessarily agree with you that the top firms recruit for healthcare and mktg. Yes, we're a great marketing school, and we get lots of recruiting from J&J, Kraft, AmEx, etc. But if you could look at our company presentation calendar, you would see that finance and consulting are also very present and have the students quite busy. Perhaps that's a benefit of being a well-regarded general mgmt program.

As for management consulting, the big firms (Deloitte, McK, Bain, BCG, Accenture) all recruit general practitioners. You don't specialize right out of school - that's something you develop (or not) over the course of your career. At BCG, which I know the best, that process usually begins after about two years, and I assume it's the same for the other big ones. (I can't comment on the other firms - Diamond, etc - because I just don't know them as well.) You can sort of pick your potential future specialty by the office you preference. For example, offices in Houston tend to focus on energy. Charlotte is finance. Chicago is CPG.

I think if you don't want to do IT, you don't show up at IT events and you don't emphasize your interest in IT on your resume. It's pretty easy. And you're right - it depends on what you bring. I've got a former IT friend who didn't get a single offer in brand mgmt - his preference - but got an offer from B/B/M, which he didn't particularly want. He dropped for consulting firms at the last minute because they didn't require a cover letter. I don't think he's particularly well-suited to brand mgmt, and I guess the recruiters didn't think so either. We'll see if he's found his calling after this summer!

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Thanks Aau. That does help...

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Has the change in the market conditions affected the availability of internships/final offers this year? I'm just curios..
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Thanks Aau. That does help...

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I don't think so. The CMC posted record-setting numbers in terms of company variety and number of visits. And I know that our class completely cleaned up in consulting offers. No one has lost an offer due to the financial market meltdown. In terms of percentage with internship offers over last year, that stuff isn't out yet.

Most everyone I know has something, but a few are still looking, particularly people who are looking for something that recruits late (such as PE or VC).
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People who attended the BDW want to weigh in?
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all of the students I talked to had great internship offers and I specifically mentioned the poor economy and they said that despite that everything was quite good. I can spot someone blowing sunshine up my a** a mile away, and I felt they were being sincere when they talked about the employment stats. Also, dean sheppard spoke about how Duke admits a very wide variety of students to make its class more diverse etc.... He then went on to say that with alot of the people doing the combi degree with the nicolas school of the environment, that often times thier career objectives are very specific like say I want to solve the coral reef problem in Indo for example and that those kind of rare and specific jobs dont happen overnite. What I took from it was that if you want consulting, I banking, general management, marketing and the typical MBA jobs, that those kinds of jobs are plenty there for you. Beyond that, I had an awesome time and really enjoyed meeting my future classmates.
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Well, I voted for Duke. To be honest, I don't know much about UCLA. kryzak is an expert in that school ;)
But as someone who attended BDW, I must say that you will have NO problem getting along or feeling at home with students at Fuqua. They are the most welcoming bunch of falks I've encountered in a b-school.
I did not sit on a consulting career panel as I am interested in marketing/GM type of gig, so I can't speak to the opportunities available in that area. However, the employment report numbers speak for themselves (I think)! As far as employment stats we saw on USNews, it seems that a lot of people (I think about 40%) intend to pursue "untraditional" types of careers. So obviously it will be harder for them to find a job they are looking for. From what I gathered, marketing, GM, consulting and finance people face very good employment prospects.

KK, come on, join Duke. That's where all the cool kids hang out :)
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haha, nervous, are you joining Duke yourself? :P

As for UCLA, from the sounds of it, Duke seems to have put on a better show, but I had the feeling that UCLA students are just as warm and welcoming and collaborative as Dukies. :) You can't go wrong with the student culture with either school.
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I'm gonna be a bluedevil :bouncer
Hate to leave LA, but I haven't really been on the East coast to say I won't like it :wink:

Sent in my deposit et al :-D ...now for the more interesting part...getting the logistics of the move figured out...
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congrats on the decision KK! too bad we won't see you here on the WC. :(

Moving is a b*tch... I can't imaging moving across states right now...
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Don't count me out bud! I have every intention of getting back to the WC someday.....more importantly after I get into MC
As for the move...I think that's gonna be the easier part..Have the VISA, immunization and loan requirements to look into...remember...I am an international....and yeah Duke starts on Aug 1 so not much time left....

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congrats on the decision KK! too bad we won't see you here on the WC. :(

Moving is a b*tch... I can't imaging moving across states right now...
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congrats on the decision KK!
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Congrats on heading for Durham KK! A fellow left coaster heading east!
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oh yeah, you're international. You guys have it so much tougher than us. best of luck with the visas and stuff!
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Don't count me out bud! I have every intention of getting back to the WC someday.....more importantly after I get into MC
As for the move...I think that's gonna be the easier part..Have the VISA, immunization and loan requirements to look into...remember...I am an international....and yeah Duke starts on Aug 1 so not much time left....

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congrats on the decision KK! too bad we won't see you here on the WC. :(

Moving is a b*tch... I can't imaging moving across states right now...
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All the MCs from Fuqua I know end up working in Chicago, not exactly the left coast. Good luck getting back to LA, I am not sure it will be as easy as you think if MC is your career choice.
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Congratulations! Glad to hear you're going to join us in Durham. Looking forward to meeting you this fall.

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I'm gonna be a bluedevil :bouncer
Hate to leave LA, but I haven't really been on the East coast to say I won't like it :wink:

Sent in my deposit et al :-D ...now for the more interesting part...getting the logistics of the move figured out...
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I agree Socal...that was in fact one of the biggest reasons I was thinking so much before making a pass on an opportunity that not many folks get. I know it'll be a challenge....but it's definitely worth a try..only time will tell if I'll succeed.

Although, at this point all I am concerned about is making that transition as smooth as can be...Hoping all along that the economy takes a turn for the better.

Change of career is paramount to my post MBA goals....location comes lower down the order.

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All the MCs from Fuqua I know end up working in Chicago, not exactly the left coast. Good luck getting back to LA, I am not sure it will be as easy as you think if MC is your career choice.
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