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How many values can the integer p=|x+3|-|x-3| assume?

A)6
B)7
C)13
D)12
E)Cannot be determined

We're not looking for how many valid solutions of "x" there are...we are looking for how many integers "p" there are (that's what was tripping me up before!!!)

We can do this by finding the range of values of x (i.e. what numbers, if any, does x lie between)

Find the check points: -3, 3

We have three ranges to test for: -3< x, -3<x<3, 3>x

For x<-3: |x+3|-|x-3| -(x+3)- -(x-3) -x-3 - (-x+3) -x-3 + x-3 P=-6
For -3<x<3 |x+3|-|x-3| (x+3) - -(x-3) (x+3) - (-x+3) (x+3) + x -3 P=2x
For x>3: |x+3|-|x-3| (x+3) - (x-3) (x+3) -x+3 P=6

So, the range of P is from -6 ≤ P ≤ 6. There are 13 integers between -6 and 6 inclusive.

Just one question - how do I know the values are inclusive (-6 ≤ p ≤ 6) as opposed to not (-6 < p < 6)?

Thanks!

Well, if you are not sure, you can plug in a value greater than 3 or less than -3 and see what you find.

\(p=|10+3|-|10-3|=|13|-|7|=6\) so 6 is a possible value, same thing for x=-10

from a more methodical point of view, if x is greater than 3, the whole expression becomes

\(p=(x+3)-(x-3)=6\) so 6 is a possible value

same thing for values less than -3.
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thanks to everyone's explanations, i think i've finally understood the solution to this problem.

now my question is, what's the best way to be solving this and similar type (multiple mods) questions to keep within the 2 mins mark?
would it be first, identifying the key ref points (e.g. 3 and -3, in this case) and then plugging in numbers within the ranges?
or is this just a concept that you need to get really good at and be able to quickly recognize the +/- setups of each mod for each of the respective scenarios? (e.g. if x<3, then setup equation with neg (x+3) and pos (x-3) cases).
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thanks to everyone's explanations, i think i've finally understood the solution to this problem.

now my question is, what's the best way to be solving this and similar type (multiple mods) questions to keep within the 2 mins mark?
would it be first, identifying the key ref points (e.g. 3 and -3, in this case) and then plugging in numbers within the ranges?
or is this just a concept that you need to get really good at and be able to quickly recognize the +/- setups of each mod for each of the respective scenarios? (e.g. if x<3, then setup equation with neg (x+3) and pos (x-3) cases).

I think the quickest way is the one explained here: how-many-values-can-the-integer-p-x-3-x-3-assume-152859.html#p1225488

You find that the function \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) ranges from 6 to -6 : will assume every value in that range. The question asks for the number of INTEGER values p can have, so just count the integers between -6 and 6 included.

Hope it makes sense :)
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thanks for the response, zarrolou, and yes, i agree. that explanation makes it quite easy and quick to solve the problem.
i was just asking for these type of multi mod type questions - 2 or 3 mods on both sides of the equal sign - if there's a "go-to" strategy/process that cuts down on computation time.
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Just one thing before I proceed, my option E "cannot be determined" sounds good as possible answer.
Some users wrote to me saying that is the first thing that came into their mind when they saw the question. What do you think?

Thanks again Mike :)

I agree with Mike. 'Cannot be determined' is not a valid GMAT option. You probably wanted to say 'Infinite values'.

By the way, it's a very nice question. I think it has many subtle takeaways

p = |x+3| - |x-3|
First thing to realize here is that p needs to be an integer, not x.
Another thing, when you subtract two mods, the result takes the same value over a wide range.


____________________ -3 ___________x ___________3_________________________

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These are the two points -3 and 3 on the number line. We need to find
'the distance from -3' - 'the distance from 3' = p
i.e red line - green line.

Notice that the red line will cancel the part of green line to the left of -3 and hence red line - green line will always be -6 for all value to the left of -3.

Similarly, red line - green line will be 6 for all values to the right of 3.

The tricky values are the ones lying in between -3 and 3. When x = -3, we get p = -6. For some point between -3 and 3, we will get p = -5, -4, -3, -2.... 6. So there will be 13 values.
e.g. p = 5
If you move 0.5 to the right of -3, distance from -3 will be 0.5 and distance from 3 will be 5.5.
0.5 - 5.5 = -5

and so on...
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)6
B)7
C)13
D)12
E)Cannot be determined

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Click here for the OE.



Also, it is not a 600-700 level question. It is certainly 700+ level.
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)6
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C)13
D)12
E)Infinite values

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Click here for the OE.

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here's my take :
from -3 to 3, we have values from -6 to 6, so there are 13 in limit check for that option, it done :)

simple logic
Mod is always positive or negative and the value will always lie beteween the limits
xii maths :)
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How many values can the integer p=|x+3|-|x-3| assume?

Checkpoints at -3, 3

x<-3, -3<x<3, x>3

x<-3:
p=|x+3|-|x-3|
p=-(x+3) - -(x-3)
p= -x-3 - (-x+3)
p= -x-3 + x -3
p= -6

-3<x<3
p=|x+3|-|x-3|
p= (x+3) - -(x-3)
p= x+3 + x -3
p= 2x

x>3
p=|x+3|-|x-3|
p=(x+3)-(x-3)
p= 6

So the range of p is from -6 to 6. There are a total of 13 integers between -6 and 6

(C) 13
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How many values can the integer p=|x+3|-|x-3| assume?

A)6
B)7
C)13
D)12
E)Infinite values

Many folks used folloing approach
1. x >or= 3
2. x belongs to {-3,3}
3. x < or = -3
leaving 3 possible valuse for P ( 6,-6, and 2x)

I understand this approach, but I am confused with another approach of soloving inequalities questions like this one
the other approach is following
|x+3|>0 and |x-3|>0
|x+3|>0 and |x-3|<0
|x+3|<0 and |x-3|>0
|x+3|<0 and |x-3|<0
this case there are 4 possible valuse for P
P= 6, -6, 2x, or -2x
what am I missing here??
If I cannot use the second approach could you explain why please.
Thank you
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How many values can the integer p=|x+3|-|x-3| assume?

A)6
B)7
C)13
D)12
E)Infinite values

Many folks used folloing approach
1. x >or= 3
2. x belongs to {-3,3}
3. x < or = -3
leaving 3 possible valuse for P ( 6,-6, and 2x)

I understand this approach, but I am confused with another approach of soloving inequalities questions like this one
the other approach is following
|x+3|>0 and |x-3|>0
|x+3|>0 and |x-3|<0
|x+3|<0 and |x-3|>0
|x+3|<0 and |x-3|<0
this case there are 4 possible valuse for P
P= 6, -6, 2x, or -2x
what am I missing here??
If I cannot use the second approach could you explain why please.
Thank you

The first approach is the logical conclusion of the second approach (with modification - the second approach as given by you in incorrect). The absolute value can never be negative. The four cases are
x+3 >0 and x-3 >0
x+3 >0 and x-3 <0
x+3 <0 and x-3 >0
x+3 <0 and x-3<0

Case 1:
x+3 >0 and x-3 >0
x > -3 and x > 3
This is the case of x > 3

Case 2:
x+3 >0 and x-3 <0
x > -3 and x < 3
This is the case of -3 < x< 3

Case 3:
x+3 <0 and x-3 >0
x < -3 and x > 3
Is this possible? Can x be less than -3 and greater than 3 simultaneously? No.

Case 4:
x+3 <0 and x-3<0
x<-3 and x < 3
This is the case of x < -3

Note that the cases come from the definition of absolute value:
|x| = x when x > 0 and -x when x < 0

You will find this post helpful: https://www.gmatclub.com/forum/veritas-prep-resource-links-no-longer-available-399979.html#/2014/06 ... -the-gmat/
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)0
B)7
C)13
D)14
E)Cannot be determined

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Kudos to the first correct solution(s)!

For x=3/-3 we have the value of p = 6/-6.
For all x>3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(x-3) = 6
For all -3<x<3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(3-x) = 2x. We could have x = 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 and the same set of negatives--> 11 values
For all x<-3, we have the value of p = (-x-3)-(3-x) = -6.
Thus, the number of unique values that p can have are 13.
C.

sorry for the noob question,
first why you chose X>3 and X<-3 , but why not x>-3 and X<3

second, beside the 11 values 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 , what are the two values you added to make it 13, are they 6 and -6 ? A detailed an easy explanation would be great :)
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)0
B)7
C)13
D)14
E)Cannot be determined

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Kudos to the first correct solution(s)!

For x=3/-3 we have the value of p = 6/-6.
For all x>3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(x-3) = 6
For all -3<x<3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(3-x) = 2x. We could have x = 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 and the same set of negatives--> 11 values
For all x<-3, we have the value of p = (-x-3)-(3-x) = -6.
Thus, the number of unique values that p can have are 13.
C.

sorry for the noob question,
first why you chose X>3 and X<-3 , but why not x>-3 and X<3

second, beside the 11 values 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 , what are the two values you added to make it 13, are they 6 and -6 ? A detailed an easy explanation would be great :)
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)0
B)7
C)13
D)14
E)Cannot be determined

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Kudos to the first correct solution(s)!

For x=3/-3 we have the value of p = 6/-6.
For all x>3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(x-3) = 6
For all -3<x<3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(3-x) = 2x. We could have x = 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 and the same set of negatives--> 11 values
For all x<-3, we have the value of p = (-x-3)-(3-x) = -6.
Thus, the number of unique values that p can have are 13.
C.

sorry for the noob question,
first why you chose X>3 and X<-3 , but why not x>-3 and X<3

second, beside the 11 values 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 , what are the two values you added to make it 13, are they 6 and -6 ? A detailed an easy explanation would be great :)
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I did it differently.

p = |x+3|-|x-3|; what are the possible values for p?

Absolute values of x have two times the range of values as x. So, this is a difference of squares. The difference tells us the range of values. However, this difference value doesn't count the first value you subtract from (e.g. how many values inclusive are between 10 and 5? 10-5 = 5; but, you have to add 1 because there are 6 values: 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10).

P takes on the form a^2 - b^2.
(x+3)^2-(x-3)^2
((x+3)-(x-3))((x+3)+(x-3)) = 6*2x = 12x
p = 12x = the difference that results when subtracting the two absolute values.
12 possibilities + 1 = 13.
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)0
B)7
C)13
D)14
E)Cannot be determined

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
Kudos to the first correct solution(s)!

For x=3/-3 we have the value of p = 6/-6.
For all x>3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(x-3) = 6
For all -3<x<3, we have the value of p = (x+3)-(3-x) = 2x. We could have x = 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 and the same set of negatives--> 11 values
For all x<-3, we have the value of p = (-x-3)-(3-x) = -6.
Thus, the number of unique values that p can have are 13.
C.

sorry for the noob question,
first why you chose X>3 and X<-3 , but why not x>-3 and X<3

second, beside the 11 values 1/2,1,3/2,2,5/2 ,0 , what are the two values you added to make it 13, are they 6 and -6 ? A detailed an easy explanation would be great :)

Note that there are no constraints on the value of x. So x can take ANY value on the number line from - infinity to infinity. We can divide the number line into 3 parts:
x <= -3
-3 < x< 3 (which is the same as x>-3 and x<3)
x >= 3

These 3 cover all values of x. The function |x+3|-|x-3| will behave differently in these three different ranges because -3 and 3 are transition points.

When you solve it, you get that when x <= -3, p is always -6.
When x is between -3 and 3, p takes 11 different values.
When x >= 3, p is always 6.

So you get total 13 different values that p can take depending on the value of x.
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How many values can the integer \(p=|x+3|-|x-3|\) assume?

A)6
B)7
C)13
D)12
E)Infinite values

My own question, as always any feedback is appreciated
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can someone Elaborate more on the range -3≤x≤3. Why to use x non integer values if any number in this range let's say 0 or -2 yields value 6, so we have only to extreme values -6 and 6 and the range is 6-(-6)+1=13 Answer (C)
x=0: 3-(-3)=6
x=-2: 1-(-5)=6
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