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m93:

Thanks for sharing such tremendous details about your background.

Without knowing all the specifics of your profile, you should have ample material to make yourself competitive for a T20 school. Your GMAT score is fantastic but it is not a magic wand. GPA does matter so you need to offer a legitimate explanation as to why you underperformed, by your own standard. Having a boss with an MBA who supports you is golden. Former MBAs often write great recommendation letters because they know all about the MBA experience and the qualities for successful candidates.

For what it's worth, I don't think coming from a small liberal arts college will hurt your chances. The representation is fairly wide at many of the T25 schools. Also, I would like to know more about your extracurricular/leadership accomplishments. That is a big component of your application. I realize that's not central to your question here, but it is part of how you "sell yourself" as part of your umbrella question. If you are to overcome some issues with professional experience and GPA, you have to illustrate a track record impact outside of work and school.

Lastly, another important part of any successful application is the career vision. It should be both aspiration and attainable. Crafting one that leverages your background and the MBA experience will be critical.

You are smart to already be thinking about how to position yourself for the 2021 application season - which by early indications - is going to be competitive again. Believe it or not, I start working with people as early as March/April for R1 applications. If you are interested in our Advanced Planning Program (mentoring, pre-application pre) and/or application support services, please reach out and schedule a free consultation. We'd be happy to get to know you and walk you through the process and our various services.

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Thanks for sharing such tremendous details about your background.

Without knowing all the specifics of your profile, you should have ample material to make yourself competitive for a T20 school. Your GMAT score is fantastic but it is not a magic wand. GPA does matter so you need to offer a legitimate explanation as to why you underperformed, by your own standard. Having a boss with an MBA who supports you is golden. Former MBAs often write great recommendation letters because they know all about the MBA experience and the qualities for successful candidates.

For what it's worth, I don't think coming from a small liberal arts college will hurt your chances. The representation is fairly wide at many of the T25 schools. Also, I would like to know more about your extracurricular/leadership accomplishments. That is a big component of your application. I realize that's not central to your question here, but it is part of how you "sell yourself" as part of your umbrella question. If you are to overcome some issues with professional experience and GPA, you have to illustrate a track record impact outside of work and school.

Lastly, another important part of any successful application is the career vision. It should be both aspiration and attainable. Crafting one that leverages your background and the MBA experience will be critical.

You are smart to already be thinking about how to position yourself for the 2021 application season - which by early indications - is going to be competitive again. Believe it or not, I start working with people as early as March/April for R1 applications. If you are interested in our Advanced Planning Program (mentoring, pre-application pre) and/or application support services, please reach out and schedule a free consultation. We'd be happy to get to know you and walk you through the process and our various services.

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Thank you for the tips! During college, I was the founder and president of the chess club, a club that continues to exist today. Would my Python certificate count as an extracurricular? I took four courses over two years and took my knowledge of python from none to very competent for a person who is not an SE by profession. I also took a standup comedy class, and I performed in two amateur shows at established clubs in front of 100+ people.
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Yes, those would all count. I'm not seeing huge accomplishments outside of the chess club, and that's assuming you're still actively involved in it to this day as perhaps an adviser of some sort.

If you want to crack the T20 schools, you will need to beef these up or find another whereby you can have a big impact, even in a covid environment. Other candidates are being extra resourceful and scrappy to show they can be a positive leader outside of the work environment. This is one area that you still have an opportunity to make improvements to take pressure off of your GPA/academic performance. Now that the GMAT is in the books, think about ways to differentiate yourself from the pack.

We really do a good job of putting together long-term action plans for folks such as yourself. I strongly encouraged you to explore this opportunity with us during a free consultation!

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Based on the info provided, should I answer the optional essay to explain my bad grades in quant courses? Ty.

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You want all parts of your applications to fit together. If your biggest weakness is the poor grades and quant, and you have a good explanation then sure. At the same time if you have other things to handle or it’s not really a concern, you may use the optional essay for another purpose.

I am a fan of preemptively addressing things so I would say yes. Usually optional essays are very short by the way. You don’t need 1000 words more like three or five sentences.

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You want all parts of your applications to fit together. If your biggest weakness is the poor grades and quant, and you have a good explanation then sure. At the same time if you have other things to handle or it’s not really a concern, you may use the optional essay for another purpose.

I am a fan of preemptively addressing things so I would say yes. Usually optional essays are very short by the way. You don’t need 1000 words more like three or five sentences.

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Thanks bb! This is what I have. Is this what they're looking for? Thank you!

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I have a handful of bad grades on my undergraduate transcript that I received due to my lax approach to quantitative coursework. I have matured since then, and I have dramatically improved my math skills as evidenced by my completion of a Python diploma program, my strong test performance, and my success in a numbers-intensive job.