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If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties (held every 3rd week) to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the realtime guidance of our Experts
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EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties this Saturday to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the guidance of our Experts! n^2+3 can only be divisible by 2 when n is odd. This can only be possible when either a or b is odd. It follows that the other unknown variable should be even. 1. I assume there should be (a^24)(b^35)=0 Since b is an integer, this equation can only be true if a^2 is 4. So a is even. But we do not know anything about b.>Not Sufficient 2. 3*\(b^3\)\(a^2\)=6 OR 3*ba=Even If b is Even, then a is Even If b is Odd, then a is Odd. Answer is no. n^2+3 CANNOT be divisible by 2 Sufficient Answer: B



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Dear AmoyV Thank you for posting your analysis! The thing I was very happy to see in your solution was that you first analysed the question statement, determined what it is that we need to know to answer the question, and only then moved to St. 1 and 2. This is something that we tell our students to do in all DS Questions. Further, you've answered the question correctly and your analysis of Statement 2 is spot on. But I'm afraid that your analysis of Statement 1 is flawed. Yes, you've arrived at the right conclusion, but the way you reached there was not right. Would you like to give another shot at why Statement 1 is not sufficient?  Japinder
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EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties this Saturday to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the guidance of our Experts! From this question \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2 we can remake this question in more convinient form: firstly change N on \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\) \((3*a b^3)^2 + 3 = even?\) As we know that A and B integers we can eliminate all powers because they don't have any influence on parity and we have such question: \(3*a b + 3 = even?\) 1) \(a^2 4*b^{3}5 = 0\) remove powers: a4b5=0 0 is even so we know that 4b even and 5 is odd so a is odd but we need information about b and we don't have it because B can be odd and can be even, after multiplying on 4 it will even result Insufficient 2) \(3*b^3a^2 + 6 = 0\) remove powers: 3ba+6=0 and we see that a and b will be equal parity: both even or both odd And it seems like insufficient but if we check question we will see that we don't need to know if b odd or even we need to know about result of ab+3 and from this statement we know that ab equal even result and plus 3 will be odd result Sufficient Answer is B
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To add to Amoy's analysis, if we take the #1 as it is written there: 4*B^3 = even regardless of B, 5  odd, difference is odd, so A^2 has to be odd aswell which means A is odd. Unfortunatelly the fact that the type of B is unknown we can't say if N = 3*A  B^3 is even or odd, coz its odd if B is even and even otherwise, that means we can't say if N^2+3 is divisible by 2 coz it is if N^2 is odd and it is not if otherwise.



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I'd suggest you use braces () instead of * or both to make the question more readable. EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties this Saturday to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the guidance of our Experts!



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EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties this Saturday to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the guidance of our Experts! Determining whether n^2 +3 is divisible by 2 means that determine if n is odd or even. (1) a^24*b^35=0 <=> (3*a  b^3) +a^2  3*a  3*b^3 5 = 0 <=> n + a*(a3) 3*b^3 5 = 0 a(a3) is even, because one is odd, one is even; 5 is odd. So it depends on 3*b^3 is odd or even, which in turn depends on b. (1) is NOT SUFFICIENT. (2) 3*b^3  a^2 +6 = 0 Do the same above method => (3*a  b^3) +4*b^3  a^2  3*a + 6 = 0 <=> n +4*b^3  a*(a+3) +6 = 0 4*b^3 is always even whatever b is a*(a+3) is even, because one is odd, one is even 6 is even => n is even. (2) is SUFFICIENT => the correct answer is B



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Detailed SolutionStepI: Given Info:We are given that \(a\), \(b\), \(n >0\) and are integers. Also \(n =3a – b^3\) and we are asked to find if \((n^2 + 3)\) is divisible by 2. StepII: Interpreting the Question Statement:Let’s start from our expression i.e. \((n^2 + 3)\), this expression is divisible by 2 only if it’s even, since 3 is odd, for \(n^2 + 3\) to be even \(n^2\) has to be odd ( as odd + odd =even) and \(n^2\) can be odd only when \(n\) is odd. Now, we know that \(n = 3a – b^3\) , for \(n\) to be odd, one of the \(3a\) or \(b^3\) has to be odd and other has to be even as the difference of an even and an odd number will always be odd. The even/odd nature of \(3a\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(a\) and similarly the even odd nature of \(b^3\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(b\). So, if we can establish that the even/odd nature of \(a\) and \(b\) are either similar or opposite, we will find our answer. StepIII: StatementIStatementI tells us that \(a^2 – 4b^3 = 5\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is odd. Since \(4b^3\) would always be even, for the difference of \(a^2\) and \(4b^3\) to be odd, \(a^2\) would have to be odd. For \(a^2\) to be odd, \(a\) has to be odd. But StI does not tell us anything about the even/odd nature of \(b\). So, StatementI alone is insufficient. StepIV: StatementIIStatementII tells us that \(a^2  3b^3= 6\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is even. This is only possible in two cases: a) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are odd, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be odd or b) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are even, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be even But, we know that for n to be odd, both \(a\) and \(b\) have to of opposite even/odd natures. We see that in StII, in both the cases \(a\) and \(b\) are of the same nature, thus in both the cases, \(n\) would be even. Hence, StatementII is sufficient to answer our question. StepV: Combining Statements I & IISince, we have a unique answer from StatementII alone, we don’t need to combine the information from StatementI and II. Thus, the answer is Option B.Key Takeaways1. In evenodd questions, simplify complex expressions into simpler expressions using the properties of evenodd combinations. 2. Know the properties of even/odd combinations to save the time spent deriving them in the test 3. The even/odd nature of some expressions can be determined without knowing the exact even/odd nature of the variables of the expressions by using the even/odd combination propertyRegards Harsh
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By the following logic, statementI should also be sufficient:
\(b^3 = (a^2  5)/4\) => a has to be odd for the numerator to be divisible by 4
Now since a is odd I can represent it as a=2k1, So, \(b^3 = ((2k1)^2  5)/4 => (4k^24k4)/4 => (k^2  k 1)\) which is always odd. Hence b is also odd.



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Sol: n =3a  b^3 a>0, b>0 n>0 => 3a >b3 Is n^2 + 3 even?
1. a^2  4b^3  5 = 0 => a^2 = 4b^3 +5 4B^3 is always even hence a^2 should be odd => a is odd b^3 can be either even or odd so n can be either even or odd, so we get Yes & No. hence A is insufficient 2. 3b^3  a^2 +6 =0 => a^2 = 3b^3 +6 if b is odd then a will also be odd and if b is even a will also be even. This implies n = (even  even) + 3 => odd or n = (oddodd) +3 => odd A definite NO.
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EgmatQuantExpert wrote: Detailed Solution
StepI: Given Info:
We are given that \(a\), \(b\), \(n >0\) and are integers. Also \(n =3a – b^3\) and we are asked to find if \((n^2 + 3)\) is divisible by 2.
StepII: Interpreting the Question Statement:
Let’s start from our expression i.e. \((n^2 + 3)\), this expression is divisible by 2 only if it’s even, since 3 is odd, for \(n^2 + 3\) to be even \(n^2\) has to be odd ( as odd + odd =even) and \(n^2\) can be odd only when \(n\) is odd.
Now, we know that \(n = 3a – b^3\) , for \(n\) to be odd, one of the \(3a\) or \(b^3\) has to be odd and other has to be even as the difference of an even and an odd number will always be odd. The even/odd nature of \(3a\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(a\) and similarly the even odd nature of \(b^3\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(b\). So, if we can establish that the even/odd nature of \(a\) and \(b\) are either similar or opposite, we will find our answer.
StepIII: StatementI
StatementI tells us that \(a^2 – 4b^3 = 5\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is odd. Since \(4b^3\) would always be even, for the difference of \(a^2\) and \(4b^3\) to be odd, \(a^2\) would have to be odd. For \(a^2\) to be odd, \(a\) has to be odd. But StI does not tell us anything about the even/odd nature of \(b\).
So, StatementI alone is insufficient.
StepIV: StatementII
StatementII tells us that \(a^2  3b^3= 6\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is even. This is only possible in two cases:
a) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are odd, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be odd or b) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are even, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be even
But, we know that for n to be odd, both \(a\) and \(b\) have to of opposite even/odd natures. We see that in StII, in both the cases \(a\) and \(b\) are of the same nature, thus in both the cases, \(n\) would be even.
Hence, StatementII is sufficient to answer our question.
StepV: Combining Statements I & II
Since, we have a unique answer from StatementII alone, we don’t need to combine the information from StatementI and II. Thus, the answer is Option B.
Key Takeaways
1. In evenodd questions, simplify complex expressions into simpler expressions using the properties of evenodd combinations. 2. Know the properties of even/odd combinations to save the time spent deriving them in the test 3. The even/odd nature of some expressions can be determined without knowing the exact even/odd nature of the variables of the expressions by using the even/odd combination property
Regards Harsh I read the expression a^24*b^35=0 as (a^24)*(b^35)=0 By this, a=2 and b^3=5. Subst. this is n=3ab^3 which makes n= (3*2)5=1 thus n^2+3 becomes, 4 which is divisible by 2!!! thus making each statement alone sufficient (opt. D) as the answer!! Pl use proper parenthesis..



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vishnu23688 wrote: EgmatQuantExpert wrote: Detailed Solution
StepI: Given Info:
We are given that \(a\), \(b\), \(n >0\) and are integers. Also \(n =3a – b^3\) and we are asked to find if \((n^2 + 3)\) is divisible by 2.
StepII: Interpreting the Question Statement:
Let’s start from our expression i.e. \((n^2 + 3)\), this expression is divisible by 2 only if it’s even, since 3 is odd, for \(n^2 + 3\) to be even \(n^2\) has to be odd ( as odd + odd =even) and \(n^2\) can be odd only when \(n\) is odd.
Now, we know that \(n = 3a – b^3\) , for \(n\) to be odd, one of the \(3a\) or \(b^3\) has to be odd and other has to be even as the difference of an even and an odd number will always be odd. The even/odd nature of \(3a\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(a\) and similarly the even odd nature of \(b^3\) would depend on the even/odd nature of \(b\). So, if we can establish that the even/odd nature of \(a\) and \(b\) are either similar or opposite, we will find our answer.
StepIII: StatementI
StatementI tells us that \(a^2 – 4b^3 = 5\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is odd. Since \(4b^3\) would always be even, for the difference of \(a^2\) and \(4b^3\) to be odd, \(a^2\) would have to be odd. For \(a^2\) to be odd, \(a\) has to be odd. But StI does not tell us anything about the even/odd nature of \(b\).
So, StatementI alone is insufficient.
StepIV: StatementII
StatementII tells us that \(a^2  3b^3= 6\), it tells us that difference of two numbers is even. This is only possible in two cases:
a) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are odd, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be odd or b) When both \(a^2\) and \(3b^3\) are even, for this to happen both \(a\) and \(b\) have to be even
But, we know that for n to be odd, both \(a\) and \(b\) have to of opposite even/odd natures. We see that in StII, in both the cases \(a\) and \(b\) are of the same nature, thus in both the cases, \(n\) would be even.
Hence, StatementII is sufficient to answer our question.
StepV: Combining Statements I & II
Since, we have a unique answer from StatementII alone, we don’t need to combine the information from StatementI and II. Thus, the answer is Option B.
Key Takeaways
1. In evenodd questions, simplify complex expressions into simpler expressions using the properties of evenodd combinations. 2. Know the properties of even/odd combinations to save the time spent deriving them in the test 3. The even/odd nature of some expressions can be determined without knowing the exact even/odd nature of the variables of the expressions by using the even/odd combination property
Regards Harsh I read the expression a^24*b^35=0 as (a^24)*(b^35)=0 By this, a=2 and b^3=5. Subst. this is n=3ab^3 which makes n= (3*2)5=1 thus n^2+3 becomes, 4 which is divisible by 2!!! thus making each statement alone sufficient (opt. D) as the answer!! Pl use proper parenthesis..No parenthesis are need there. Mathematically \(a^2  4∗b^35 = 0\) can ONLY mean \((a^2) (4∗b^3)(5) = 0\) and nothing else.
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Just a different perspective. Not sure why i am wrong.
(1) a2 −4∗b3−5 =0  this holds true when a=3 and b=1, considering both a and b are positive and integers
(2) 3∗b3 −a2 +6=0  this holds true when a=3 and b=1, considering both a and b are positive and intergers
In both the above equations, none of the other values of a and b will satisfy since for any value of b>1, values of a will be fractions.
Given this, it is easy to see that n=8 and n^2+3 = 67, not divisible by 2.
Should it not be D. both statements are sufficient.



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Excellent Question egmatHere is what i did We need to check whether N^2+3 is divisible by 2 or not. i.e whether N^2+3=even or simply we need to check whether N is Even or Odd Statement 1 => Here A^34B^35=0 hence A=even+even+odd=odd So A is odd but we need the character of B to get to any conclusion on N Hence This statement is insufficient because it gives us no clue as to what B's even/odd nature is. Lets look at statement 2 now => here 3B^3A^2+6=0 hence 3B^3A^2=even Now the sum of two integers is even when either both are even or both are odd Also POWER does not effect the Even and odd nature of any expression
Hence A and B are either both odd or both even Case 1 => if they are both odd => N=3AB^3=> OddOdd=Even Case 2 => if they are both even => N=3AB^3 => Even Even = Even Hence N is always even So the Answer to our Question is NO => N^2+3 will be Even +odd = odd and would never be divisible by 2 Hence Sufficient SMASH that B
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The answer should be definitely: D
Statement 1: Only integer & positive solutions are 3,1 both are odd......statement is sufficient to answer the prompt
Statement 2: As above explanations reason and are correct
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EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties (held every 3rd week) to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the realtime guidance of our Experts In option, I assumed (a^24)*(b^35)=0 But this is wrong in the explanation given by egmat. My query is will the variables be put in bracket in the question stem if they form one unit ? Otherwise its little confusing. Please help. Thanks.



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Shiv2016 wrote: EgmatQuantExpert wrote: If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2? (1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\) (2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) This is Ques 2 of The EGMAT Number Properties Knockout Register for our Free Session on Number Properties (held every 3rd week) to solve exciting 700+ Level Questions in a classroom environment under the realtime guidance of our Experts In option, I assumed (a^24)*(b^35)=0 But this is wrong in the explanation given by egmat. My query is will the variables be put in bracket in the question stem if they form one unit ? Otherwise its little confusing. Please help. Thanks. The answer to your query is ABSOLUTELY. If it were (a^24)*(b^35)=0, then it would have been written this way, it's mathematically correct.
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My approach was little different, so I want to know if it is valid (i.e. can I use it safely for solving other problems) Based on this article, when I see exponents or odd coefficients in E/O problems, I just ignore them (exponent or odd coefficient). i.e. x^5=x or 3x=x. The question asks is n^2+3 (or n+3) even, so we have to know is n E or O. To understand this, we have to know is ab even or odd. (3ab^3 = ab) 1. a  Even = Odd gives us that A is odd. We know nothing about ab => insufficient. 2. Ignore coefficient and exponent 3. ba = even. Sufficient.



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If a, b and n are positive integers such that \(n = 3*a\) \(b^3\), is \(n^2 + 3\) divisible by 2?
(1) \(a^2\) \(4*b^{3}5\) \(= 0\)
(2) \(3*\)\(b^3\) \(a^2\) \(+ 6 = 0\) Response: I think it is D  either statement is sufficient alone. Statement1 is sufficient because: a is odd for obvious reasons. Now rewrite the original equation \(a^2  4b^3  5 = 0\) as \(a^2  1 = 4b^3 + 4\) Then it becomes, \((a1)(a+1)/4 = b^3+1\). Since a is odd, put a=2k+1, which means eq. is now: \(k(k+1) = b^3+1\). LHS is always even, hence b has to be odd. Hence from statement 1, a and b both are odd. Thus n is even.
State2 is also sufficient alone as a and b must be either both odd or both even. Thus n is even always.



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We are getting 2 different answers. Which one is right?




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