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2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

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OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

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Bunuel, what makes us think that point o is Origin in this case???
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Bunuel, what makes us think that point o is Origin in this case???

Well, we must know the coordinates of the point O to solve the question. As origin in coordinate geometry usually marked with letter O (as the center of a circle) then we can assume that O is origin in this case. Though I think on GMAT it would be explicitly stated.
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Bunuel, what makes us think that point o is Origin in this case???

Well, we must know the coordinates of the point O to solve the question. As origin in coordinate geometry usually marked with letter O (as the center of a circle) then we can assume that O is origin in this case. Though I think on GMAT it would be explicitly stated.

Thanks for the info...Bunuel :)
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help pls!

2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

Look at the the diagram below:
Attachment:
graph.php.png
OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

P.S. Please post the new questions in separate threads.

But how can we assume that O is the origin??
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help pls!

2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

Look at the the diagram below:
Attachment:
graph.php.png
OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

P.S. Please post the new questions in separate threads.

But how can we assume that O is the origin??

Please read the thread completely: if-p-and-q-are-two-points-on-the-line-3x-4y-15-such-that-103360.html#p805599
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Bunuel could you please elaborate a little bit more on the relation between similar triangles? How could you get OC/OB = OA/AB, I'm not able to see it.

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another way to calculate OC is:
(distance of (a,b) from mx+ny+z=0 is: (ma+nb+z)/sqrt(m^2 + n^2)
SO, OC = distance of O from the line 3x+4y+15= 0 is:

(3 * 0 + 4*0 +15)/sqrt(3^2 + 4^2) = 15/5 = 3

Hi there, how do we look at m, n and z from the chart?
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Bunuel could you please elaborate a little bit more on the relation between similar triangles? How could you get OC/OB = OA/AB, I'm not able to see it.

Thanks!
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Important property: the perpendicular to the hypotenuse will always divide the triangle into two triangles with the same properties as the original triangle. Check here: if-arc-pqr-above-is-a-semicircle-what-is-the-length-of-144057.html#p1154669

OC is a perpendicular to hypotenuse AB, thus triangles AOB and OCB are similar.

Does this make sense?
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Hi Bunnel,

Could you please explain how we can derive SQRT (OA^2 + OB^2) = 25/4?
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Hi Bunnel,

Could you please explain how we can derive SQRT (OA^2 + OB^2) = 25/4?

AB is the hypotenuse of right triangle AOB, hence \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}\), where \(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively).

Does this make sense?
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help pls!

2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

Look at the the diagram below:
Attachment:
graph.php.png
OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

P.S. Please post the new questions in separate threads.

Bunuel under which property of similarity would AOB and OCB be similar ? SAS , SSS , ASA ??
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help pls!

2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

Look at the the diagram below:
Attachment:
graph.php.png
OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

P.S. Please post the new questions in separate threads.

Bunuel under which property of similarity would AOB and OCB be similar ? SAS , SSS , ASA ??

SAS, SSS and ASA conditions are to determine whether the triangles are congruent (same).

The triangles AOB and OCB are similar because they have equal angles. Check here: if-arc-pqr-above-is-a-semicircle-what-is-the-length-of-144057.html#p1154669

Hope it helps.
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O is the origin...
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help pls!

2)If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

a) 18* sqrt(2)
b) 3* sqrt(2)
c) 6* sqrt(2)
d) 15*sqrt(2)

Look at the the diagram below:
Attachment:
graph.php.png
OC is perpendicular to AB (PQ), so it's height of AOB and POQ;

\(OA=5\) and \(OB=\frac{15}{4}\) (points A and B are intersection of the line \(3x+4y=-15\) with the X and Y axis respectively) --> \(AB=hypotenuse=\sqrt{OA^2+OB^2}=\frac{25}{4}\);

As AOB and OCB are similar then \(\frac{OC}{OB}=\frac{OA}{AB}\) --> \(OC=3\);

\(CP=CQ=\sqrt{OP^2-OC^2}=\sqrt{9^2-3^2}=6\sqrt{2}\);

\(PQ=CP+CQ=12\sqrt{2}\);

\(Area_{OPQ}=\frac{base*height}{2}=\frac{PQ*OC}{2}=\frac{12\sqrt{2}*3}{2}=18\sqrt{2}\).

Answer: A.

P.S. Please post the new questions in separate threads.

Hi,

Can we say that OCA is a primitive pythagorean triple 3:4:5 and deduce that OC =3?

Thanks in advance :-)
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Cannot approach unless it is stated that O is the origin.

If O is not stated as the origin, then we can even take A and B as points and draw an isoscless triangle POQ .

In that case the area will be 25/8 * ( sq.rt 47 * sq.rt 97) :) :)
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If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

A. 18* sqrt(2)
B. 3* sqrt(2)
C. 6* sqrt(2)
D. 15*sqrt(2)


Question is good, but nowhere it is mentioned that O is a center i.e. (0,0) co-ordinates.
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If P and Q are two points on the line 3x + 4y = -15 such that OP and OQ= 9 units, The area of triangle POQ is given by

A. 18* sqrt(2)
B. 3* sqrt(2)
C. 6* sqrt(2)
D. 15*sqrt(2)

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