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Originally posted by TaN1213 on 18 Aug 2018, 09:23.
Last edited by Bunuel on 31 Oct 2018, 03:39, edited 2 times in total.

Would you please help me understand why aren't we taking the overlap here and choose x<0 ?
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chetan2u, Shouldn't we consider the overlapping region of (x<0) and (x<2), and the range would then be x < 0 ? Is the OA given wrong ?

Hi... As correctly done , two critical points.. 1) x\(\leq{-1}\) -(x+1)>2x-1........x+1<1-2x......X<0 So all values below and equal to -1 satisfy the equation 2) x>-1 x+1>2x-1.......x<2 So all values between -1 and 2 satisfy the equation..

Combined.. All values upto -1 inclusive and all values between -1 and 2 So it turns out all values till 2 And that is why both combined give us x<2
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chetan2u, Shouldn't we consider the overlapping region of (x<0) and (x<2), and the range would then be x < 0 ? Is the OA given wrong ?

Hi... As correctly done , two critical points.. 1) x\(\leq{-1}\) -(x+1)>2x-1........x+1<1-2x......X<0 So all values below and equal to -1 satisfy the equation 2) x>-1 x+1>2x-1.......x<2 So all values between -1 and 2 satisfy the equation..

Combined.. All values upto -1 inclusive and all values between -1 and 2 So it turns out all values till 2 And that is why both combined give us x<2

chetan2u, Shouldn't we consider the overlapping region of (x<0) and (x<2), and the range would then be x < 0 ? Is the OA given wrong ?

Hi... As correctly done , two critical points.. 1) x\(\leq{-1}\) -(x+1)>2x-1........x+1<1-2x......X<0 So all values below and equal to -1 satisfy the equation 2) x>-1 x+1>2x-1.......x<2 So all values between -1 and 2 satisfy the equation..

Combined.. All values upto -1 inclusive and all values between -1 and 2 So it turns out all values till 2 And that is why both combined give us x<2

You square both sides ONLY when you are sure both sides are positive... That is the reason you are getting your values when X is positive. But what about x as negative, 2x-1 will be negative too at those values.

So REMEMBER, do not square when both sides are not 100% to be positive
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Hi chetan2u.

I consistently get these mod questions and inequalities questions wrong. Could you please guide me as to how to improve and practice(i dont want to practice QUESTION PACK questions for these topics)

chetan2u, Shouldn't we consider the overlapping region of (x<0) and (x<2), and the range would then be x < 0 ? Is the OA given wrong ?

Hi... As correctly done , two critical points.. 1) x\(\leq{-1}\) -(x+1)>2x-1........x+1<1-2x......X<0 So all values below and equal to -1 satisfy the equation 2) x>-1 x+1>2x-1.......x<2 So all values between -1 and 2 satisfy the equation..

Combined.. All values upto -1 inclusive and all values between -1 and 2 So it turns out all values till 2 And that is why both combined give us x<2

Thank you so very much for the crisp explanation.
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can you please explain why the correct answer is not x<0

see attached my solution, as far as I know when x<0 and x <2 we need to pick the common portion ( I highlighted it) as correct answer. Isn`t it so ? or are there are some exceptions of which I am not aware

so I chose A, can you explain what`s wrong with my reasoning ?

thanks!

Dave

p.s.bb why i am getting an italic font ? i ddnt use any font formatting tools

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thanks to chetan2u and PKN for taking time to explain but I still dont get WHY OVERLAPPING PORTION of my solution above is not correct ?

Have a look at the video below (first 5 minutes are enough ), this Indian guy clearly explains that overlapping portions are answers to such questions

can you please explain why the correct answer is not x<0

see attached my solution, as far as I know when x<0 and x <2 we need to pick the common portion ( I highlighted it) as correct answer. Isn`t it so ? or are there are some exceptions of which I am not aware

so I chose A, can you explain what`s wrong with my reasoning ?

thanks!

Dave

p.s.bb why i am getting an italic font ? i ddnt use any font formatting tools

Hi.. Substitute x as 1 and you will get the equation to be true so x as 1 is surely a value.. Now where you are going wrong.. Refer to my post about critical points I specific to this question or the post attached in the signature for a detailed explanation.

Now |x+1| can have two critical points as shown in my post above.. 1) x<=-1.. here we get x<0 as solution... So this means x<=-1 is correct as solution is x<0 so what we initially assume as x<=-1 is correct 3) x>-1 gives x<2 as solution This means the values from -1 to 2 are correct as we had assumed that x>-1 at the start When you combined this two you het x<=-1 and -1<x<2 Combined it is x<2
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TaN1213 wrote:

if |x + 1 | > 2x - 1, which of the following represents the correct range of values of x ?

A. x < 0 B. x < 2 C. -2 < x < 0 D. -1 < x < 2 E. 0 < x < 2

I find that the quickest solutions to this kind of question involve testing the answer choices

Scan the answer choices Notice that some answer choices say that x = 1 is a solution and some say x = 1 is NOT a solution. So, let's test x = 1 Plug it into the original inequality to get: |1 + 1 | > 2(1) - 1 Simplify to get: 2 > 1 Perfect! So, x = 1 IS a solution to the inequality.

Since answer choices A and C do NOT include x = 1 as a solution, we can ELIMINATE them.

Now scan the remaining answer choices (B, D and E) Some answer choices say that x = -1 is a solution and some say x = -1 is NOT a solution. So, let's test x = -1 Plug it into the original inequality to get: |(-1) + 1 | > 2(-1) - 1 Simplify to get: 0 > -3 Perfect! So, x = -1 IS a solution to the inequality.

Since answer choices D and E do NOT include x = -1 as a solution, we can ELIMINATE them.

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Hello Brent thank you for your alternative approach but all I wanted is to understand why in the example below we take an overlap as a solution and in the question above we DO NOT TAKE overlap as solution.

EXAMPLE:

X^2+5x+6>0 (x+2)(x+3)>0

Now we have two options either both numbers are positive or both numbers are negative.

Option 1. (both are positive)

x+2>0 ---> x>-2

x+3>0 ---> x>-3

now look here attentively so we have x>-2 and x>-3 (now as per the logic of above mentioned solutions the interval should be x>-3 because it includes -2 as well) Excusez-moi monsieur, but it is not correct, the correct interval is x>-2 i.e. the overlapping interval !

See attached.

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Option 2. (both are negative)

x+2<0 ---> x<0

x+3<0 ---> x<-3

now look here carefully so we have x<0 and x<-3 (now as per the logic of above mentioned solutions the interval should be x<-2 because it includes -3 as well) Excusez-moi monsieur, but it is not correct, the correct interval is x<-3 i.e. the overlapping interval !

See attached.

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chetan2u, Shouldn't we consider the overlapping region of (x<0) and (x<2), and the range would then be x < 0 ? Is the OA given wrong ?

This particular question you can solve it either by inequality or by putting smart numbers. just look at the options put X=0 given equation is valid. It means options A, C and E are out. then it is between B and D put X= -1 given equation is valid. D is out. answer B:)

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hello Bunuel, pushpitkcGladiator59, chetan2u , generis, in other words friendly modhumanbeings its me dave13, designer of hamburgers & hotdogs, as you see my profession is far from math, so can you please provide me with ps examples/links/ps questions of absolute values with an overlap on number line Thank you!

Originally posted by dave13 on 31 Oct 2018, 23:59.
Last edited by dave13 on 01 Nov 2018, 00:41, edited 2 times in total.

Hope you are doing great! Designing hot-dogs sounds fun, is it as much fun as eating one? :-P

For absolute value material - there are tons of links on gmatclub. I personally read through veritas prep blog on absolute values and also Bunuel's post also walker's post here which is a part of the GMAT club math book.

In addition you might want to check out the youtube channel of khan academy who are doing a great job providing free education through out the world. Here is an absolute values section that has some exercises as well. ( Be careful though as not all of it is part of GMAT but if you are struggling with graphical approach I would highly recommend it)

For PS/DS question kindly use the GMAT Club question bank with the appropriate filters.

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Hi All,

We're told that |X + 1 | > 2X - 1. We're asked which of the following represents the correct range of values of X. This question can be solved in a couple of different ways, including by TESTing VALUES.

Let's start with the easiest number possible: 0

Will X=0 fit the given inequality?.... |0 + 1| > 2(0) - 1 ..... 1 > -1. Yes, this 'fits', so X=0 IS a possible solution. Eliminate Answers A, C and E.

Between the remaining 2 answers (Answer B and Answer D), some values of X 'overlap' and some don't, so we should focus on the values that DON'T overlap...

Will X= -2 fit the given inequality?.... |0 + -2| > 2(-2) - 1 ..... 2 > -5. Yes, this 'fits', so X= -2 IS a possible solution. Eliminate Answer D.