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# If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?

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If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?

(1) y is negative
(2) |y| <= 1

I solved the question as below:
If |x|.y+ 9 > 0
|x|.y > -9
As x and y are integers then |x|.y > -9 * 1 or |x|.y > -3 * 3

Case 1
y is negative
then x can be 9, 1 and 3. Insufficient

Case 2
|y| < 1 implies -1 < y < 1
Clearly not sufficient

(1) & (2) not sufficient together either.
Is my approach correct?

Originally posted by rohitgoel15 on 01 Feb 2012, 03:11.
Last edited by Bunuel on 27 Feb 2012, 01:01, edited 1 time in total.
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If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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01 Feb 2012, 03:24
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rohitgoel15 wrote:
If |x|.y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?
(1) y is negative
(2) |y| < 1

I solved the question as below:
If |x|.y+ 9 > 0
|x|.y > -9
As x and y are integers then |x|.y > -9 * 1 or |x|.y > -3 * 3

Case 1
y is negative
then x can be 9, 1 and 3. Insufficient

Case 2
|y| < 1 implies -1 < y < 1
Clearly not sufficient

(1) & (2) not sufficient together either.
Is my approach correct?

Statement (2) should read $$|y|\leq{1}$$ and not $$|y|<{1}$$. Because: (1) $$y<0$$, (2) $$|y|<{1}$$ (-1<y<1) and $$y=integer$$ (from the stem) cannot be true simultaneously (there is no integer between -1 and 0, not inclusive).

If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?

(1) $$y<0$$. If $$y=-1$$, then $$-|x|+9>0$$ --> $$|x|<9$$, so $$x$$ can be 8, -8, 7, -7, and so on. So $$x$$ may or may not be less than 6. Not sufficient.

(2) $$|y|\leq{1}$$ --> $$-1\leq{y}\leq{1}$$ --> as $$y$$ is an integer, then $$y$$ is -1, 0, or 1. As we've seen above if $$y=-1$$, then $$x$$ may or may not be less than 6. Not sufficient.

(1)+(2) Again if $$y=-1$$ (which satisfies both stem and statements) then $$x$$ may or may not be less than 6. Not sufficient.

P.S. rohitgoel15 please tag the questions properly: it's not "Statistics and Sets Problems", it's "Absolute Values/Modules" and "Inequalities" question. Tags changed.
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Re: If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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25 Aug 2013, 13:00
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I am wondering if there is way to algebraicaly do this problem? Here is one appraoch:

Does this algebraic approach make sense on this problem?

Given
|x| (y) > -9
Or
-(x)*(y) > -9
==> xy < 9
Also,
xy > -9

Thus we have -9 < xy < 9

Now, with statement 1, y < 0
that means:
- 9 < x (- some int) < 9
or each separately,
- 9 < - x
(some int)*9 > x
AND
- x < 9
or x > -9 (some int)

Thus, x can be < 6 or > 6. NS.

Similarly, statement 2, n.s.

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Re: If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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29 Jul 2014, 18:24
minkathebest wrote:
I am wondering if there is way to algebraicaly do this problem? Here is one appraoch:

Does this algebraic approach make sense on this problem?

Given
|x| (y) > -9
Or
-(x)*(y) > -9
==> xy < 9
Also,
xy > -9

Thus we have -9 < xy < 9

Now, with statement 1, y < 0
that means:
- 9 < x (- some int) < 9
or each separately,
- 9 < - x
(some int)*9 > x
AND
- x < 9
or x > -9 (some int)

Thus, x can be < 6 or > 6. NS.

Similarly, statement 2, n.s.

E.

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Re: If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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19 May 2016, 18:06
|x|*y>-9
|x| is always positive
y can be negative or positive.

1. y is negative
y=-1
x=7
|x|*y>-9 true
x=5
|x|*y>-9 true

2 outcomes. not sufficient.

2. |y|<=1
since y is an integer, y can be 1, 0, or -1.

we can have similar cases as in A. since we can't give a definite answer, B is out.

1+2
y=-1
in 1 we already demonstrated that it's not sufficient.

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If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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06 Jun 2017, 21:26
Hi, I believe statement 1 should be enough. Can someone guide me as to where I am wrong:

|x| * y > -9

statement 1 = y is negative

so
|x|< 9 / y

Now since LHS has to be positive, and has to be an integer the only values that y satisfies are -9 and -3.
The equation becomes |x| < 1 or |x| < 3.

In both the cases x<6, hence statement 1 is sufficient.

The reason why I did not consider y = -1 is because we are explicitly given in the question stem that |X| * y + 9 > 0 (or |X| * y > -9) and hence considered the values y = -3, -9, to satisfy the given equation
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Re: If |x|*y+ 9 > 0, and x and y are integers, is x < 6?  [#permalink]

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27 Oct 2018, 10:06
mvictor wrote:
|x|*y>-9
|x| is always positive
y can be negative or positive.

1. y is negative
y=-1
x=7
|x|*y>-9 true
x=5
|x|*y>-9 true

2 outcomes. not sufficient.

2. |y|<=1
since y is an integer, y can be 1, 0, or -1.

we can have similar cases as in A. since we can't give a definite answer, B is out.

1+2
y=-1
in 1 we already demonstrated that it's not sufficient.

E
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