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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping

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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.

(a) with the simple thesis of consumers having -> with is an adverbial phrase and should modify the verb began. The modification doesn't make sense.
having -> verbing without any comma so should modify nearest noun which is "consumers". As "having X" is a modifier which can be junked and the sentence becomes
with a simple thesis of consumers -> Thesis is not of consumers


(b) which had the simple thesis of consumers having -> same issue as above.
(c) where the thesis was simple: consumers having -> It should be a Independent clause and having is not a verb.
(d) with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have -> with -> same issue as that of a) and "this is a" -> extra word and not required.
(e) whose thesis was simple: consumers have -> Correct and whose can modify possessive form of inanimate objects.
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Why use simple past tense to describe the thesis? In my thinking, the simple past tense use to describe a fact that happened in certained time frame. Thesis from a journal needs to be in simple present. Is that correct?

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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
A. with the simple thesis of consumers having
B. which had the simple thesis of consumers having
C. where the thesis was simple: consumers having
D. with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have
E. whose thesis was simple: consumers have

Originally posted by Chemerical71 on 16 Jan 2017, 07:04.
Last edited by Vyshak on 16 Jan 2017, 07:23, edited 1 time in total.
Topic Merged. Refer to the above discussions.
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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
A. with the simple thesis of consumers having
B. which had the simple thesis of consumers having
C. where the thesis was simple: consumers having
D. with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have
E. whose thesis was simple: consumers have


all but E is clear, concise, and grammatical correct.
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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
(a)
(b) which had the simple thesis of consumers having
(c) where the thesis was simple: consumers having
(d) with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have
(e) whose thesis was simple: consumers have



Hi Experts mikemcgarry,

I know option A is having meaning issue. But I want to know is use of with is right here?

Please clarify.

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Hi Experts,

Could you please let me know here use of with is right or not in option A?

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Could you please let me know here use of with is right or not in option A?

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The prepositional modifier "with...." can be used as a verb modifier to depict the meaning "accompanied by".

I came here with a lot of hope.... correct ( "with a lot of hope" modifies "came" correctly).

Similarly the following sentence would be correct:

The council began publishing X with a simple thesis. ("with a simple Thesis" correctly modifies the verb "began".)

However A is wrong because the prepositional noun modifier "of consumers having..." is incorrect.
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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.

(a) with the simple thesis of consumers having

The 'having' modifies the customers. Therefore, the sentence implies that Council began (X) with the thesis of customers. This is quite illogical.

(b) which had the simple thesis of consumers having

This option commits the same mistake as A does. Moreover, this option uses "had" which signifies that the thesis is no more fashioned by the magazine. This idea goes against the idea presented in the question.

(c) where the thesis was simple: consumers having

"Shopping for a Better World" is not a place and therefore the use of "where" is erroneous.

(d) with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have

"with a simple thesis" seems to be a superior way of writing the same thing.

(e) whose thesis was simple: consumers have

"whose" refers to "the Council" and the use of "was" is also justified as it is a fair possibility that the same committee doesn't exist anymore.

Option E is better than option D. Thus, option E.
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Hi sayantanc2k,

Is the modified form of option A correct? Also, the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" is not making sense to me.

In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis : consumers have the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
A. with the simple thesis : consumers have

Can you please help in the correct understanding?

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Hi sayantanc2k,

Is the modified form of option A correct? Also, the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" is not making sense to me.

In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis : consumers have the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
A. with the simple thesis : consumers have

Can you please help in the correct understanding?

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Hey aceGMAT21 ,

Yes, your modified version is correct now. It shows that its publication was accompanied by something and then it describes that something using a colon.

The biggest issue with A was the use of "having".

Does that make sense?
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Hi sayantanc2k,

Is the modified form of option A correct? Also, the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" is not making sense to me.

In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis : consumers have the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.
A. with the simple thesis : consumers have

Can you please help in the correct understanding?

Thanks.
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Hey aceGMAT21 ,

Yes, your modified version is correct now. It shows that its publication was accompanied by something and then it describes that something using a colon.

The biggest issue with A was the use of "having".

Does that make sense?


Hey abhimahna,

Can you please elaborate on the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" as that is not making sense to me.

"Began publishing X with simple thesis" is sounding awkward to me. Can you elaborate on this part?

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aceGMAT21 wrote:
Hey abhimahna,

Can you please elaborate on the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" as that is not making sense to me.

"Began publishing X with simple thesis" is sounding awkward to me. Can you elaborate on this part?

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Hey aceGMAT21 ,

Here is the catch. Sounding awkward is not a reason to say something is incorrect.

Remember most of the times, the options that would sound awkward will be correct on GMAT.

There is nothing wrong with the sentence "Began publishing X with simple thesis".
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aceGMAT21 wrote:
Hey abhimahna,

Can you please elaborate on the meaning implied from "the Council began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis" as that is not making sense to me.

"Began publishing X with simple thesis" is sounding awkward to me. Can you elaborate on this part?

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Hey aceGMAT21 ,

Here is the catch. Sounding awkward is not a reason to say something is incorrect.

Remember most of the times, the options that would sound awkward will be correct on GMAT.

There is nothing wrong with the sentence "Began publishing X with simple thesis".


Yep, that's true. :)
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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.

(A) with the simple thesis of consumers having : With creates confusion: CEP with the simple thesis OR Shooping FABW with the simple thesis. Consumers having is also wrong: It means that the thesis is for only consumers having the power to change. But the sentence wants to mean all consumers and a general fact that consumers have the power to change.

(B) which had the simple thesis of consumers having : Which here refers to a better world, so wrong. Also have same error as in A.

(C) where the thesis was simple: consumers having : Where is used to denote place. Consumers having : same error as in A.

(D) with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have : With: Same error as in A.

(E) whose thesis was simple: consumers have :CORRECT: Whose can be used to denote non-animate things.
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In 1988, the Council on Economic Priorities began publishing Shopping for a Better World, with the simple thesis of consumers having the power to change companies by the simple expedient of refusing to buy.

(A) with the simple thesis of consumers having

1) with incorrectly modifies council
2) Use of having


(B) which had the simple thesis of consumers having.

1) Use of Having

(C) where the thesis was simple: consumers having

1) After colon no IC

(D) with a thesis that is a simple one: consumers have

1) with incorrectly modifies council
2) Use of Simple tense



(E) whose thesis was simple: consumers have

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Can someone articulate exactly the meaning conveyed by "having"?

Everyone just states "distorted meaning" without articulating why its distorted.
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VeritasKarishma please help me in understanding 'with' modifier used in opt A. I think it is incorrect because now the sentence means that COuncil began publishing two things (1) - Shopping...world (2). the thesis. whereas the intended meaning is Council began publishing one thing ie shopping...world whose thesis was ....buy
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VeritasKarishma please help me in understanding 'with' modifier used in opt A. I think it is incorrect because now the sentence means that COuncil began publishing two things (1) - Shopping...world (2). the thesis. whereas the intended meaning is Council began publishing one thing ie shopping...world whose thesis was ....buy


"with" can be used as a modifier. It needn't imply two things. I am ok with a sentence which looks like this:

A began publishing B with the simple thesis that consumers have the power ...

My big problem with (A) is the use of "having". The thesis is "consumers have the power...".
When we say "consumers having the power ...", it shows "having the power" modifies 'consumers'.
It implies the thesis is "consumers who have the power ...." But the thesis is not some kind of consumers. The thesis is that consumers have the power.
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