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Hi AjiteshArun sayantanc2k MartyTargetTestPrep

(Q2) in D - Isn't 450 miles a countable noun ?

great' and "much" dont go with countable nouns. 'great' and "much" are used with UN-COUNTABLE nouns only.

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Correct - i have many hats (hats is countable)
Correct - Cake gives me great satisfaction (satisfaction is uncountable)
Corect - i have much patience (patience is unountable)

Incorrect - i have great hats (hats is countable)

Hence, i thought the idiom should be -- as many as 450 miles because many IS USED WITH COUNTABLE nouns.
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Hello, jabhatta2. I know I am not one of the Experts you mentioned, and I do not mean to step on any toes, so I will keep my response brief. While you wait for a more in-depth response, have you considered the following?

  • The idiom as _____ as and how it operates?
  • That the aforementioned idiom might refer to depth?

I ask because I think both of your questions stem from the same issue. Anyway, think it over. I will step aside for one of my colleagues to take over (and probably do a better job explaining things).

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Hi AjiteshArun sayantanc2k MartyTargetTestPrep

(Q2) in D - Isn't 450 miles a countable noun ?

great' and "much" dont go with countable nouns. 'great' and "much" are used with UN-COUNTABLE nouns only.

Quote:

example
Correct - i have many hats (hats is countable)
Correct - Cake gives me great satisfaction (satisfaction is uncountable)
Corect - i have much patience (patience is unountable)

Incorrect - i have great hats (hats is countable)

Hence, i thought the idiom should be -- as many as 450 miles because many IS USED WITH COUNTABLE nouns.
Hello, jabhatta2. I know I am not one of the Experts you mentioned, and I do not mean to step on any toes, so I will keep my response brief. While you wait for a more in-depth response, have you considered the following?

  • The idiom as _____ as and how it operates?
  • That the aforementioned idiom might refer to depth?

I ask because I think both of your questions stem from the same issue. Anyway, think it over. I will step aside for one of my colleagues to take over (and probably do a better job explaining things).

- Andrew
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I totally agree with Sir Andrew. Another well-regarded sir after Sir Charles :blushing:

Often we invoke the expert's voice when the backbone of this website are the students themselves. Does not exist a top-down strategy but a community. A flat-sharing among the peers.

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I totally agree with Sir Andrew. Another well-regarded sir after Sir Charles :blushing:

Often we invoke the expert's voice when the backbone of this website are the students themselves. Does not exist a top-down strategy but a community. A flat-sharing among the peers.

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Ha ha, I am absolutely fine being regarded as a "lesser Charles," as long as I get to stay out of the spotlight. That is a fine observation, carcass, on the nature of GMAT Club. I enjoy reading the Most Helpful Community Reply as much as its Expert counterpart, as long as I can see the mind at work. (I am not overly fond of facile explanations such as out of scope with zero analysis, but even then, I remind myself that some users may not be too confident about writing in English. I certainly would not be comfortable writing in a second or third language amongst native-speaking peers and experts. I have not reached such a level of personal comfort.)

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Hi AjiteshArun sayantanc2k MartyTargetTestPrep

(Q3) in D - Isn't 450 miles a countable noun ?

great' and "much" dont go with countable nouns. 'great' and "much" are used with UN-COUNTABLE nouns only.

Quote:

example
Correct - i have many hats (hats is countable)
Correct - Cake gives me great satisfaction (satisfaction is uncountable)
Corect - i have much patience (patience is unountable)

Incorrect - i have great hats (hats is countable)

Hence, i thought the idiom should be -- as many as 450 miles because many IS USED WITH COUNTABLE nouns.
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The noun Miles is countable - 1 mile, 2 miles... alright
The noun Depth is uncountable - 1 depth, 2 depths... does not make sense

The adjective "great" here refers to the noun "depth", not "miles", and hence is alright.
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Hi AjiteshArun sayantanc2k MartyTargetTestPrep

(Q3) in D - Isn't 450 miles a countable noun ?

great' and "much" dont go with countable nouns. 'great' and "much" are used with UN-COUNTABLE nouns only.

Quote:

example
Correct - i have many hats (hats is countable)
Correct - Cake gives me great satisfaction (satisfaction is uncountable)
Corect - i have much patience (patience is unountable)

Incorrect - i have great hats (hats is countable)

Hence, i thought the idiom should be -- as many as 450 miles because many IS USED WITH COUNTABLE nouns.

The noun Miles is countable - 1 mile, 2 miles... alright
The noun Depth is uncountable - 1 depth, 2 depths... does not make sense

The adjective "great" here refers to the noun "depth", not "miles", and hence is alright.
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Hi sayantanc2k - curious - how are you sure the idiom 'as great as' should refer to Depth and not 450 miles ?

example -
(i ) I come from a distance of as many as 100 miles.
(ii) I come from a distance of as much as 100 miles.
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example -
(i ) I come from a distance of as many as 100 miles.
(ii) I come from a distance of as much as 100 miles.
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Hello jabhatta2,

We hope this finds you well.

To answer your query, the structure of this sentence is such that "as great as 415 miles" is a noun modifier that acts upon the noun "depth"; in other words, "415 miles" is a part of the modifying phrase.

We hope this helps.
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Is the tense in "(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far" OK? Specifically: past perfect "had seemingly come"
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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far
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the following is correct.

the discover has been made that the fragments of Alperl seemingly came from a long depth

if the main clause is short and that-clause, "that the fragment of..." is close to the noun modified, "discovery", the sentence if fine.

but in choice A, between "discovery" and that- clause , a long phrase is inserted, and so, the sentence is wrong. in gmatprep, there is an official answer which prove my point.

so, there is no absolute rule of grammar here. if the clause modifying the noun is close to the noun, the sentence is correct. if the noun and the the modifying clause are far, the sentence is incorrect.
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Is the tense in "(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far" OK? Specifically: past perfect "had seemingly come"
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No, we can only use past perfect ("had come") if there is a past action or time marker in the sentence that this action precedes. If the sentence is in present perfect ("has made"), we need to stick to simple past or more present perfect for anything that has happened so far. But we could justify "had seemingly come" if we added some extra marker at the end, such as "until it was proven to be from a higher-up region."
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I understand the reasons for elimination and the correct answer, but I was wondering if the use of "who" is correct in option B. Can "who" be used to refer to team? One of the replies above says it can't but who is referring to people, which I would think is correct?
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I understand the reasons for elimination and the correct answer, but I was wondering if the use of "who" is correct in option B. Can "who" be used to refer to team? One of the replies above says it can't but who is referring to people, which I would think is correct?
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The team THAT does this will be rewarded. - > may be better/safer.

Another way of thinking about this issue could be to make some sentences that test the concept:

An army is made up of soldiers WHO are people. Sounds good.

An army who eats a lot can do a lot. Sounds a little awkward. You'd feel more comfortable using THAT.

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I understand the reasons for elimination and the correct answer, but I was wondering if the use of "who" is correct in option B. Can "who" be used to refer to team? One of the replies above says it can't but who is referring to people, which I would think is correct?
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Hi kelly_jacques,

We may be able to use who to refer to team (for example, "my team, who") because it's understood that we're talking about the members of the team. We don't need to take a call on that here though. This is option B:

1. ... discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment... ← Who can refer to scientists.

Keep in mind that this does lead to a different problem.
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