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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far

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A. discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University cf California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down - Incorrect. Usage of 'it' after 'like' makes the sentence awkward. 'As far as' is preferred over 'As far down'. down is redundant.

B. discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much - Incorrect. Awkward for the reasons mentioned in A.

C. team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great - Incorrect. Subject verb agreement error.

D. team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great - Correct.

E. team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far - Incorrect. Change in meaning.

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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 mies.`

A. discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University cf California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

B. discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

C. team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

D. team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

E. team of scientists from the University of California has made the disccvery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far



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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 mies.`

A. discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University cf California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

B. discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

C. team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

D. team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

E. team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far



In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great as 415 mies.`


Hi Abhi,

I really admire your efforts of coloring technique. To Add on it would be great if you the mention error type, for ex:-C has SV agreement error: "team" is singular, but the verb is "have discovered."
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A. Usage of 'it' after 'like' makes the sentence awkward. Moreover 'As far as' is preferred over 'As far down as'. So, here “down” is redundant.
B. Usage of 'it' after 'like' makes the sentence awkward. Moreover, the use of “of” before “as much as” is wrong.
C. The use of “of” before “as great as” is wrong. Moreover, “team” is singular while “have discovered” is plural. This violates S-V agreement.
D. This answer choice has correct use of S-V agreement. Hence, D is the answer.
E. This statement changes the meaning of the sentence.
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I think (A) and (D) are both pretty good options.

(D) wins though because it is in the active voice. And "depth as far down as" is redundant - we already know it is "down" because of the word "depth".

I don't see any pronoun issues with (A). "it" parallels with "a fragment". This is similar to how "it" works in these examples:
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We don't want to knock out a choice for using the passive voice unless there is something that makes passive voice wrong/inappropriate. Answer choice A has plenty of problems, and while passive voice is not inherently wrong, it does play a role in the trouble here.

Let's look at the modifier beginning with "that a fragment . . ." What is it supposed to modify? Presumably "discovery." So what if we strip out some other modifiers to see how that looks? "A discovery has been made that a fragment seems like it came from a depth." This doesn't work. First, we can "discover that X happened" or we can "make the discovery that X happened." But we don't want to say "A discovery has been made that X happened." The structure running up to "that" sets us up to expect the modifier to talk about the effect of the discovery itself, as in "A discovery has been made that changes our view of the early Solar System." Do you see the difference? We just want to describe what was discovered, not add detail about the effect or nature of the discovery, so this structure is confusing. That's why passive voice doesn't work well here. Given all that we want to add in the modifiers, it really helps to use the simple structure "discovered that." Strangely, though, none of the answers give us that. This leads us to another problem.

What is it that has really been discovered? According to A, the team has discovered that this fragment seems to have come from great depths. But it's odd that they discovered what it seems to do. If it really comes from the depths, then we don't need to emphasize the seeming, but if it doesn't, then we don't have much of a discovery. It's more sensible to say that the team discovered a fragment, and this fragment seems to come from the depths. That's more or less what every choice but A goes with.

Another problem? "Seems like." This is a common expression in speech, but it's not good for formal written English, especially when no comparison is being made. (If the fragment is "like" something, what is it?) In fact, we can get to D on the merits of "seems to have" alone.

Finally, "a depth as far down" is redundant!
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Reading along the lines, and 'meaningfully', option D makes most sense.
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Scientific discovery is a complete and comprehensive phenomenon, thoroughly probed and proven by Authority. There is no place for a tentative observation such as 'seems' in that theory. This is an inevitable fact of Science.

'Seems like' is rather a spoken language and not formal prose. 'as if' and 'as' followed by a clause are the legal alternatives to 'seem like'.

In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.`

A. discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down ----1) wrong as per the observation made above plus 2)the redundancy of 'depth as far down'

B. discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much -- 2. wrong as in A. 2. who can antecede neither California nor the team

C. team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great --- SV number agreement error.

D. team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great -- yes, good enough

E. team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far -- 1. has discovered is more dynamic and active than 'has made the discovery of as per V-A-N 2. What has seemingly come from? is it the fragment or the Swiss alps? We can at least take some refuge if it were the non-restrictive' 'comma plus which' instead of the restrictive 'that'.

D is the choice.
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Of course, passive voice does not automatically eliminate an answer. However, if everything else is equal, then I will choose a sentence in active voice over a sentence in passive voice. Purdue OWL has a good article on why active voice is preferred.

I don't think we can assume that in (A) "that" is intended to modify "discovery". My personal opinion is that "A discovery has been made that X happened" is perfectly fine. For example, the sentence "She said that he likes to swim" is perfectly fine, and in this example "that" doesn't modify "she" and doesn't show effect. Thus, I would argue that your counterexample "A discovery has been made that changes our view of the early Solar System" isn't relevant since in your counterexample "that" is being used as a relative pronoun to introduce a relative clause whereas in (A) "that" is being used as a vanilla conjunction introducing a vanilla subordinate clause.

Also, I don't have a problem with "seems". Newton discovered that the orbit of planets around the sun seems to be governed by F=ma. However, he turned out to be wrong, yet most people consider it a significant discovery. Also, all options use "seems" or some variant.

Boiling it down, I think this debate largely depends on whether one thinks that one of the following sentences is better than the other:

A team of scientists has discovered a fragment that seems to have come from a depth as great as 415 miles.
A team of scientists has discovered that a fragment seems to have come from a depth as great as 415 miles.


For me, I think they are essentially the same.
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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far



Only option D and E are close. Apart from change in meaning in option E , it also uses past participle tense unnecessarily ...."had seemingly come". Also. "made the discovery of " is wordier than "has discovered" . So option E is incorrect.

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regarding choice a

discover that x do y has been made
this is right. but because "that x do y" is long, and the distance between subject "discovery' and verb "has been" is long, the sentence is not prefered.

if choice a is
the discover has been made that x seems to have come from y
this is correct because the distance between "discovery" and its modfier " that x seems..." is "has been made" is short. we have a gmatprep question which is consistent with this pattern (you can google, "evidence that...". I do not remember )

but in our choice A, the distance is longer " has been made by a team...."

because the distance between "discovery" and " that x seems..." is very long, the sentence is unacceptable.
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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far


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Doesn't it change the original meaning in the correct answer? I was trying to apply entity vs expression concept. Shed some light on this.
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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far


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Doesn't it change the original meaning in the correct answer? I was trying to apply entity vs expression concept. Shed some light on this.


What is it that has really been discovered? According to A, the team has discovered that this fragment seems to have come from great depths. But it's odd that they discovered what it seems to do. If it really comes from the depths, then we don't need to emphasize the seeming, but if it doesn't, then we don't have much of a discovery. It's more sensible to say that the team discovered a fragment (entity), and this fragment seems to come from the depths. That's more or less what every choice but A (Expression) goes with.
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In an area devoid of volcanic activity, a discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down as 415 miles.

(A) discovery has been made by a team of scientists from the University of California that a fragment of the Swiss Alps seems like it came from a depth as far down

(B) discovery was made by a team of scientists from the University of California who found a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems like it had come from a depth of as much

(C) team of scientists from the University of California have discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that has seemingly come from a depth of as great

(D) team of scientists from the University of California has discovered a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great

(E) team of scientists from the University of California has made the discovery of a fragment of the Swiss Alps that had seemingly come from a depth as far


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Doesn't it change the original meaning in the correct answer? I was trying to apply entity vs expression concept. Shed some light on this.


What is it that has really been discovered? According to A, the team has discovered that this fragment seems to have come from great depths. But it's odd that they discovered what it seems to do. If it really comes from the depths, then we don't need to emphasize the seeming, but if it doesn't, then we don't have much of a discovery. It's more sensible to say that the team discovered a fragment (entity), and this fragment seems to come from the depths. That's more or less what every choice but A (Expression) goes with.


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Can anyone explain what the have refers to in the option D?
That have is part of the infinitive to have come. You won't find a noun that "agrees" with it, if that's what you are looking for.
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In option B "a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great" - The verb 'have' is for 'a fragment'. Does it satisfy the subject verb agreement?
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Can someone review answer B in more detail? is the use of "who" in that sentence wrong because we're changing subjects?
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In option B "a fragment of the Swiss Alps that seems to have come from a depth as great" - The verb 'have' is for 'a fragment'. Does it satisfy the subject verb agreement?
That have is part of the infinitive to have come (infinitives are not "full" verbs). The actual verb there is seems, and it agrees with a fragment of the Swiss Alps. Note that seems and a fragment don't actually form a subject-verb pair.
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