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15 Dec 2022, 14:17
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Per my understanding - Dropping essential / non-essential modifiers - the core of any sentence should be a complete sentence in itself.
In this example - getting rid of the Subordinate THAT clause, the core of the sentence is a complete sentence in itself : The study is costly
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But how come this is not the case when I drop the "that clause" in (B) ?
If I drop the THAT modifier - I get
Post dropping of the "that clause" -- is the above sentence (post Dropping of THAT clause), now a complete sentence ?
Seems to be an incomplete sentence if you ask me.
In this example - getting rid of the Subordinate THAT clause, the core of the sentence is a complete sentence in itself : The study is costly
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But how come this is not the case when I drop the "that clause" in (B) ?
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(Option B)
In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments investigating the effectsthat changes in working conditions would have on workers’ performance
In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments investigating the effects
If I drop the THAT modifier - I get
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(Option B) In the mid-1920’s the Hawthorne Works of the Western Electric Company was the scene of an intensive series of experiments investigating the effects
Post dropping of the "that clause" -- is the above sentence (post Dropping of THAT clause), now a complete sentence ?
Seems to be an incomplete sentence if you ask me.
The core of the sentence is:
The Hawthorne Works was the scene of an intensive series of experiments.
That's a complete sentence. The strategy worked as intended, jabhatta2.
16 Dec 2022, 21:07
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Yes avigutman - this strategy (of Dropping THAT modifiers) does work with the Basic Core
This strategy DOES NOT ALWAYS work WITHIN modifiers itself
Let me give an example of what I mean - This is another GMAT prep question (Here), discussed in an AMA.
The OA for this question is obviously between (c), (d) or (e) becuse of the initial modifier.
Responding to the public’s fascination with―and sometimes undue alarm over―possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.
(A) a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may
(B) a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to
(C) astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to
(D) astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will
(E) astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may
(E) is easily eliminated using the strategy of droping 'THAT modifier' -
In (E) - Once you drop the second (THAT) {marked in Red above } in (E), one can eliminate (E) easily.
Why ? Because you are left with "astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet", which doesnt make sense.
However
If you use the same strategy of dropping "That" in (D) (marked in blue, in D)
You are left with (D) "astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood"
Rating the likelihood ?
I personally thought this sentence too did not make sense (once you Dropped the THAT, marked in blue, in (D)
Hence i marked (D) wrong but the OA is (D)
This strategy DOES NOT ALWAYS work WITHIN modifiers itself
Let me give an example of what I mean - This is another GMAT prep question (Here), discussed in an AMA.
The OA for this question is obviously between (c), (d) or (e) becuse of the initial modifier.
Quote:
Responding to the public’s fascination with―and sometimes undue alarm over―possible threats from asteroids, a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may collide with Earth.
(A) a scale developed by astronomers rates the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet may
(B) a scale that astronomers have developed rates how likely it is for a particular asteroid or comet to
(C) astronomers have developed a scale to rate how likely a particular asteroid or comet will be to
(D) astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood that a particular asteroid or comet will
(E) astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet that may
(E) is easily eliminated using the strategy of droping 'THAT modifier' -
In (E) - Once you drop the second (THAT) {marked in Red above } in (E), one can eliminate (E) easily.
Why ? Because you are left with "astronomers have developed a scale that rates the likelihood of a particular asteroid or comet", which doesnt make sense.
However
If you use the same strategy of dropping "That" in (D) (marked in blue, in D)
You are left with (D) "astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood"
Rating the likelihood ?
I personally thought this sentence too did not make sense (once you Dropped the THAT, marked in blue, in (D)
Hence i marked (D) wrong but the OA is (D)
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17 Dec 2022, 14:38
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Yes avigutman - this strategy (of Dropping THAT modifiers) does work with the Basic Core
This strategy DOES NOT ALWAYS work WITHIN modifiers itself
Let me give an example of what I mean - This is another GMAT prep question (Here), discussed in an AMA.
If you use the same strategy of dropping "That" in (D) (marked in blue, in D)
You are left with (D) "astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood"
Rating the likelihood ?
I personally thought this sentence too did not make sense (once you Dropped the THAT, marked in blue, in (D)
Hence i marked (D) wrong but the OA is (D)
This strategy DOES NOT ALWAYS work WITHIN modifiers itself
Let me give an example of what I mean - This is another GMAT prep question (Here), discussed in an AMA.
If you use the same strategy of dropping "That" in (D) (marked in blue, in D)
You are left with (D) "astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood"
Rating the likelihood ?
I personally thought this sentence too did not make sense (once you Dropped the THAT, marked in blue, in (D)
Hence i marked (D) wrong but the OA is (D)
In an email communication, jabhatta2, you told me
jabhatta2
I drop modifiers [essential modifiers / non-essential modifiers / which modifiers] when looking for the essential core meaning of the sentence.
That way I understand the core of the sentence (i.e. - the 'focus' on the sentence)
That's a good strategy. What strategy did you attempt to use here? After all, "astronomers have developed a scale for rating the likelihood" is not the core of the sentence... That way I understand the core of the sentence (i.e. - the 'focus' on the sentence)
