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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.

(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.

(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.

(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.

(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.

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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.

Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average, last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.


In this "weakening" question, you need to be able to understand the structure of the argument and spot the answer that would best ATTACK a key assumption. The argument states that the PERCENTAGE (you should pay very close attention to how the GMAT uses numbers in CR - raw numbers, percentages, comparitive amounts, etc.) of retirees moving to Florida is going down. The conclusion is that the decreasing percentage will negatively impact the Florida businesses/economy. Be on the lookout for something that will address the number of retireees...

A - Completely out of scope
B - Completely out of scope
C - The answer correctly states that the NUMBER of retirees has increased SIGNIFICANTLY, so a small reduction in percentage would still likely involve an increase in the raw number of retirees making it to Floriday. This strongly weakens the conclusion that businesses will be impacted by the decline in percentage.
D- This would strengthen the argument (watch out for wrong direction!)
E - Addresses raw numbers, but we need a comparison between retirees coming to Florida now vs. the past, not a comparison of Florida v. other states

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Hi Lauhub,

Let me see if I can explain.

Overall the % of people who choose, when moving state, to retire in Florida has gone down a little bit.

C then says, the total number of people who move state when retiring has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY.

So if LOTS more people are moving to retire in general. Even if a slightly (3%) smaller percentage are moving to Florida, overall there will still be more people than before moving to Florida.


In general this is an interesting question, because it has some numbers, yet is Verbal. Overall advice is don't bring your Quant logic (about percentages vs real numbers) into Verbal.

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the argument tells us that % has gone down by 3.... but what if the no of people migrating has incr substantially.. in that case the shortage by decr of 3% is made up by overall no incr
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I've come across this question before and think I got it right by a little POE. See my explanations below.

sagarsabnis wrote:
In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.Out of scope.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago. Out of scope.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years. If this is true, the number of people who moved to Florida could actually be more than last year. The passage states that the percentage, of the people who moved from one state to another, who moved to Florida decreased by 3%. This answer is stating that the sample pool (or number of people moving) has increased significantly. So, theoretically, the ACTUAL number of people who moved to FL can be more this year than it was over the past 10 years, even though that number correlates to a 3% drop in TOTAL number of people moving to another state. This would have a positive effect on FL's economy, therefore weakening the argument.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.Seems to strengthen argument. The more people that leave, the more the economy of FL will suffer.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other
state.This says nothing about the number people actually moving to FL or the trend of movements over the past 10 years. Just because more people are attracted to FL doesn't necessarily mean they will move there IMO.

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I hardly find any answer choice correct. I don't agree with C because the C refers to the increase in the retirees who move from one state to another in general. It doesn't specifically refer to Florida. I think it's a big assumption to apply that fact to Florida.
That left me with option E.
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Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.
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Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.



The stimulus states "these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida."

let the number move a higher than the last year, but considerably it is a number less than would have actually moved so there could still be a negative effect.
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VeritasPrepKarishma wrote:
Actually, C doesn't stink.
Consider the stimulus again:
"Of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years."

So ten years back, let's say, 100 people moved from one to another state. Let's also assume 30 of those 100 moved to Florida. In US, 30% of people who were moving after retirement, moved to Florida.

It has gone down to 27%.

What option C says is: "The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly
over the past ten years"

The total number of people who are moving has increased significantly.
So now, perhaps 200 people move from one state to another as compared to 100 of ten years back. Then 27% would be 54, still much greater than 30.
So there may not have been any negative effect, in fact there might have been a positive effect because more people are moving to Florida. Therefore, it weakens the conclusion.



The stimulus states "these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida."

let the number move a higher than the last year, but considerably it is a number less than would have actually moved so there could still be a negative effect.


Absolutely mailnavin1, there could still be a negative effect. Since (C) says 'increased significantly'. But we do not know by how much. But the question is "which of the following weakens the argument?", not "which of the following make it false?".. Since option (C) creates a possibility that the argument might become invalid, it weakens the argument considerably.
I hope it makes more sense now.
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I thought D weakens the argument the most. So, anyone can help me with the right explanation?
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Its 180 degree answer - strengthener. By referring to the reduction in the %age points the argument is implying that the economy of Florida is in trouble.

If D is true - then we are moving forward in the direction of the conclusion. ie more exodus, less number of people retiring in Florida and subsequently troubled economy

If C is true - then it casts a doubt that the arg has confused actual number with %age. The actual number of people retiring has NOT gone down, even though the %age has gone down by couple of points. It does not matter since the economy is unswayed.

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I thought D weakens the argument the most. So, anyone can help me with the right explanation?
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In the United States, of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired, the percentage
who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years. Since many local
businesses in Florida cater to retirees, these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect
on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following, if true, most seriously weakens the argument given?
(A) People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance, on average,
last year than such people did ten years ago.
(B) People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were
ten years ago.
(C) The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased signifi cantly
over the past ten years.
(D) The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year than
it was ten years ago.
(E) Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state


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I thought D weakens the argument the most. So, anyone can help me with the right explanation?


The argument is that percentage decline in people retiring to Florida has a negative effect on the business.

Anything that suggests that percentage decrease doesn't matter much would weaken this argument.

D actually says that more retirees LEFT Florida. It tells nothing about the influx of retirees into Florida and actually strengthens the case for impact on business, if at all.

C says that the absolute numbers have increased signifcantly, so even after a percentage decline, the sheer number can ensure that businesses do not suffer from negative impact and hence it weakens the percentage based argument the most. It doesn't matter that share of pie is slightly reduced if the Pie itself has grown dramatically.
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The conclusion is "Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees, this decline is likely to have a noticeable negative economic effect on these businesses."
The key word here is "these". The conclusion only talks about the negative impact on the businesses which cater to retirees and not about the economic impact on the economy as a whole.
D makes sense because it specifically talks about the actual number of retirees increasing and hence negates the premise of the percentage going down.
For eg.
10 years ago - Number of retirees = 100
% moving to florida - 53
Actual number moving to florida - 53

Today
Number of retirees - 1000 (significantly higher)
percentage moving to florida - 50
Actual number moving to florida - 500

Hence the actual number has gone up 10 times.
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Hi Lauhub,

Let me see if I can explain.

Overall the % of people who choose, when moving state, to retire in Florida has gone down a little bit.

C then says, the total number of people who move state when retiring has gone up SIGNIFICANTLY.

So if LOTS more people are moving to retire in general. Even if a slightly (3%) smaller percentage are moving to Florida, overall there will still be more people than before moving to Florida.


In general this is an interesting question, because it has some numbers, yet is Verbal. Overall advice is don't bring your Quant logic (about percentages vs real numbers) into Verbal.

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Thanks James! so it's all about number SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE versus 3% decrease right?
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Yes exactly.

The 'significant increase' will out weigh the '3% decrease'. So the argument is weakened.

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All right thanks ;)

One more question, what about C, which doesn't focus on Florida but the conclusion focus on Florida?
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Yes exactly.

The 'significant increase' will out weigh the '3% decrease'. So the argument is weakened.

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Before you read this. Re-read the entire question and see if you can work it out - with everything you understand from the question you should be able to get it....





All you need to work out is is the number of people retiring to Florida going down. The question suggests so because the percentage of people in the whole country who retire there is going down.

C says that the total number in the whole country who are retiring is going up.

So it is like with like.
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In the United states,of the people who moved from one state to another when they retired,the percentage who retired to Florida has decreased by three percentage points over the past ten years.Since many local businesses in Florida cater to retirees,these declines are likely to have a noticeably negative economic effect on these businesses and therefore on the economy of Florida.
Which of the following,if true,most seriously weakens the argument given?

(A)People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance,on average,last year than such people did ten years ago.-->out of scope..No relevance to distance they moved

(B)People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.-->out of scope...not relevant w.r.t florida

(C)The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years->this weakens the argument as even if less people retire in florida,chances of people moving in is more and hence business wont be affected

(D)The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year then it was ten years ago-->out of scope

(E)Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.-->comparison between states not relevant.

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(A)People who moved from one state to another when they retired moved a greater distance,on average,last year than such people did ten years ago.-->out of scope..No relevance to distance they moved

(B)People were more likely to retire to North Carolina from another state last year than people were ten years ago.-->out of scope...not relevant w.r.t florida

(C)The number of people who moved from one state to another when they retired has increased significantly over the past ten years->this weakens the argument as even if less people retire in florida,chances of people moving in is more and hence business wont be affected

(D)The number of people who left Florida when they retired to live in another state was greater last year then it was ten years ago-->out of scope

(E)Florida attracts more people who move from one state to another when they retire than does any other state.-->comparison between states not relevant.
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Tricky Question. C is correct answer
The answer correctly states that the NUMBER of retirees has increased SIGNIFICANTLY, so a small reduction in percentage would still likely involve an increase in the raw number of retirees making it to Florida. This strongly weakens the conclusion that businesses will be impacted by the decline in percentage.
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Can anyone explain what is wrong with option E.
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