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22 Jan 2023, 05:05
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Hi,
I'm confused and would really appreciate some help!
In the sentence,
"He felt he will probably be promoted after this project as it was so successful in attracting new customers and as it received such great reviews."
Shouldn't there be a 'THAT' after "he felt"?
To my understanding, "He will probably be promoted after this project" is the main clause, and an independent one, with a subject - "he" and a verb - "will be promoted".
"He felt" is a dependent clause with a subject - "he" and a verb - "felt", as it does not make sense on its own, or as part of the independent clause. Therefore, a conjunction, such as the word "that" is required.
What am I missing?
I'm confused and would really appreciate some help!
In the sentence,
"He felt he will probably be promoted after this project as it was so successful in attracting new customers and as it received such great reviews."
Shouldn't there be a 'THAT' after "he felt"?
To my understanding, "He will probably be promoted after this project" is the main clause, and an independent one, with a subject - "he" and a verb - "will be promoted".
"He felt" is a dependent clause with a subject - "he" and a verb - "felt", as it does not make sense on its own, or as part of the independent clause. Therefore, a conjunction, such as the word "that" is required.
What am I missing?
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22 Jan 2023, 05:19
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Hello.
In my honest opinion, there should not necessarily be a "that" after "He felt".
"That" is needed after reporting verbs, such as "indicate" and "claim", and it is needed when introducing demonstrative clauses.
I'm not sure though, so I'll wait for some expert replies.
Meanwhile, I'll tell you what I do know.
In this case, "felt" is the WORKING VERB of the sentence, it's not a dependent clause.
Adding "That" after the WORKING VERB of the sentence leads to a demonstrative clause.
Example: "The teacher is confident that her students will ace the test"
Now, demonstrative clauses (such as "THAT he will probably be promoted") are SUBORDINATE CLAUSES, but they act as ESSENTIAL MODIFIERS.
The presence of essential modifiers is essential to the meaning of the sentence: if you remove essential modifiers from a sentence, the sentence core you're left with makes no sense.
Example:
"The job THAT she accepted last week is much harder than her previous job" --> let's remove the essential modifier (demonstrative clause) "THAT SHE ACCEPTED LAST WEEK"
--> "The job is much harder than her previous job"
As you can see, this sentence now makes zero sense: which job are we referring to? Her current job? Someone else's job? The meaning is unclear.
NB: it is a good idea not to drop the word "that" in GMAT SC, especially when it is used to introduce a subordinate demonstrative clause. Dropping the word "that" can lead to an ambiguous meaning, which in GMAT SC correlates with mistakes. See this example below
Example:
"I know THAT Nelson Mandela, who was freed from prison in 1990, was born in South Africa" --> meaning is legit: I know precisely that Nelson Mandela was born in South Africa.
"I know Nelson Mandela, who was freed from prison in 1990, was born in South Africa" --> meaning is now ambiguous: do I know that Nelson Mandela was born in South Africa or do I PERSONALLY know Nelson Mandela?
Here's a post by GMATNinja explaining the different uses of the word "that", it's a wonderful post: experts-topic-of-the-week-6-26-17-wtf-is-that-doing-in-my-sentence-243686.html
Hope everything is clear!
In my honest opinion, there should not necessarily be a "that" after "He felt".
"That" is needed after reporting verbs, such as "indicate" and "claim", and it is needed when introducing demonstrative clauses.
I'm not sure though, so I'll wait for some expert replies.
Meanwhile, I'll tell you what I do know.
In this case, "felt" is the WORKING VERB of the sentence, it's not a dependent clause.
Adding "That" after the WORKING VERB of the sentence leads to a demonstrative clause.
Example: "The teacher is confident that her students will ace the test"
Now, demonstrative clauses (such as "THAT he will probably be promoted") are SUBORDINATE CLAUSES, but they act as ESSENTIAL MODIFIERS.
The presence of essential modifiers is essential to the meaning of the sentence: if you remove essential modifiers from a sentence, the sentence core you're left with makes no sense.
Example:
"The job THAT she accepted last week is much harder than her previous job" --> let's remove the essential modifier (demonstrative clause) "THAT SHE ACCEPTED LAST WEEK"
--> "The job is much harder than her previous job"
As you can see, this sentence now makes zero sense: which job are we referring to? Her current job? Someone else's job? The meaning is unclear.
NB: it is a good idea not to drop the word "that" in GMAT SC, especially when it is used to introduce a subordinate demonstrative clause. Dropping the word "that" can lead to an ambiguous meaning, which in GMAT SC correlates with mistakes. See this example below
Example:
"I know THAT Nelson Mandela, who was freed from prison in 1990, was born in South Africa" --> meaning is legit: I know precisely that Nelson Mandela was born in South Africa.
"I know Nelson Mandela, who was freed from prison in 1990, was born in South Africa" --> meaning is now ambiguous: do I know that Nelson Mandela was born in South Africa or do I PERSONALLY know Nelson Mandela?
Here's a post by GMATNinja explaining the different uses of the word "that", it's a wonderful post: experts-topic-of-the-week-6-26-17-wtf-is-that-doing-in-my-sentence-243686.html
Hope everything is clear!
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