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hi gurpreet,

i am thinking of CAT / FMS as well!
in my first year of WE, I had an offer from IIM-I which I did not join

I am 3+ yrs experience in strategy and finance with average academics; stil not made up my mind for my GMAT tho.. it turns out to be such an expensive proposition that i am still worried on taking the first step

Do you really think IIFT is worth it. Even as a backup ?
I am asking because I have never filled in that form.

This is the first time I m going to appear for FMS/IIFT and second time for CAT. IIM-I was a good option, but nevermind that shows you have good potential to score well on Gmat. There are many schools in India that accept Gmat Scores.
indian-b-schools-accepting-gmat-scores-82525.html

Gmat is indeed very expensive and finances have to managed. I will be taking at least 70% loan. 8-)

Regarding IIFT, I have heard its quite good but I m not that sure.I m just giving for my backup. You can try XLRI as well.
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hi gurpreet,

i am thinking of CAT / FMS as well!
in my first year of WE, I had an offer from IIM-I which I did not join

I am 3+ yrs experience in strategy and finance with average academics; stil not made up my mind for my GMAT tho.. it turns out to be such an expensive proposition that i am still worried on taking the first step

Do you really think IIFT is worth it. Even as a backup ?
I am asking because I have never filled in that form.
My frnd u had an offer from IIMI and u didnt join,R u an IITian , what program were u offered at IIMI?
Lots of IB's ,that foreign Bschoolers run after and still dont get into,come to IIMI for recuitment.
Well i am an IIM I hater, i got banned on PG for abusing the admission panel who rejected me for very unjustifiable reasons
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You cannot concentrate on the Indian exams without losing focus on the GMAT.Both require different prep methods.
The CAT is a lot different from GMAT.The CAT RCs that are offered by the Indian Prep companies are longer and are usually more complicated than 700+ GMAT RC's.The CAT RCs resemble excerpts from some thesis,its that complex.CAT quant is tougher ,many will admit.
There is no rules to solving CAT SC's.There is no CR in CAT.The DI in CAT stretches all over the computer screen and there are so many numbers that you have to use scroll repeatedly to interpret them.
The GMAT and CAT both require special prepand and virtually there is an overlap but really no overlap.
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Yes I do agree both are quite different, but there is still some overlap.

CR is definitely the part of CAT verbal, you should check previous years' questions.
Regarding RC, yes they are longer but not convoluted like Gmat.

DI and LR are not in Gmat and we have to prepare exclusively for CAT.

I have seen many people preparing for CAT using OG12 for CR and SC.

I m not going to lose focus on gmat, and I will have 2 weeks between gmat and cat. I think those 2 weeks are enough to prepare Quant and DI.

I won't touch verbal as I know even if I spend a month I will be at same place. :-D
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That ppl uses OG doesnt prove anything.
No IIM CAT 2005-2009 had cr questions of the (inference,eweaken,strengthen ) variety.
Before 2005 the CAT had 40 something questions in each section.U could have seen CR there.
2005-2008 , 25 quests per section.and it was all sets/DS/LR (teeny weeny)
The IIM CAT last year only had 20 questions in the DI section.All the IIM cat sections are different cos the ppl who set are different and they dont follow GMAT rules..
The IIM CAT only has DI sets pie charts,and graphs and other charts and some other teeny weeny LR ( all trees are flowers etc) and Data sufficiency in the DI section
IIMCAT is IIMCAT and GMAT is GMAT.
My frnd wrote GMAT before CAT hoping to exploit the strong verbal foundation that Gmat prepping would create for him.It didnt work.Jisko ATB to everyone
Guess i am still a bit frustu after the IIM Raipur disaster thanks to votebank politics in INDIA for SC/STs
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You cannot concentrate on the Indian exams without losing focus on the GMAT.Both require different prep methods.
The CAT is a lot different from GMAT.The CAT RCs that are offered by the Indian Prep companies are longer and are usually more complicated than 700+ GMAT RC's.The CAT RCs resemble excerpts from some thesis,its that complex.CAT quant is tougher ,many will admit.
There is no rules to solving CAT SC's.There is no CR in CAT.The DI in CAT stretches all over the computer screen and there are so many numbers that you have to use scroll repeatedly to interpret them.
The GMAT and CAT both require special prepand and virtually there is an overlap but really no overlap.
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Which harder overall?
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You cannot concentrate on the Indian exams without losing focus on the GMAT.Both require different prep methods.
The CAT is a lot different from GMAT.The CAT RCs that are offered by the Indian Prep companies are longer and are usually more complicated than 700+ GMAT RC's.The CAT RCs resemble excerpts from some thesis,its that complex.CAT quant is tougher ,many will admit.
There is no rules to solving CAT SC's.There is no CR in CAT.The DI in CAT stretches all over the computer screen and there are so many numbers that you have to use scroll repeatedly to interpret them.
The GMAT and CAT both require special prepand and virtually there is an overlap but really no overlap.
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Which harder overall?

comparison is like comparing real and complex numbers. Both are difficult and require proper strategy to crack.

Gmat is adaptive and we have to do every question but in IIMCAT we do not have to attempt every question and there is sectional cut-off. Both of them can not be compared.
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so are those indians who gets accepted into indian schools get almost perfect scores? i assume they ace the gmat too?
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Shaselei, you from China, they have the same thing?
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so are those indians who gets accepted into indian schools get almost perfect scores? i assume they ace the gmat too?

If you are well prepared for IIMCAT, then it becomes easy to tackle GMAT. As the student does not have to prepare for quant except DS strategies and time management. For that only OG's and Gmatprep are sufficient.

Second section is of DI and LR which is not covered in GMAT.

Third section is of verbal in which in addition to SC/CR/RC there are other topics as well.

So overall if you are well prepared for CAT, it becomes easy to crack GMAT. Only time management and Gmat related questions are required to be studied.

But the Verbal of Gmat is quite tricky in comparison to IIMCAT.
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so are those indians who gets accepted into indian schools get almost perfect scores? i assume they ace the gmat too?

If you are well prepared for IIMCAT, then it becomes easy to tackle GMAT. As the student does not have to prepare for quant except DS strategies and time management. For that only OG's and Gmatprep are sufficient.

Second section is of DI and LR which is not covered in GMAT.

Third section is of verbal in which in addition to SC/CR/RC there are other topics as well.

So overall if you are well prepared for CAT, it becomes easy to crack GMAT. Only time management and Gmat related questions are required to be studied.

But the Verbal of Gmat is quite tricky in comparison to IIMCAT.

so do most indians who are applying to US schools and taking GMAT didnt get into the indian b schools or they see a "better chance" elsewhere because of the competitive nature?

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Shaselei, you from China, they have the same thing?

Well i came here when i was 9 but i am sure it is as competitive there as india... they have exams for Junior high and high school placements so it must be competitive.
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Its not like that. The person who can crack a good B-school abroad can certain crack good B-school in India as well.

Doing MBA abroad is a different experience and is certainly not the backup plan for the applicants.

For me MBA abroad(Including ISB India) is a primary and MBA in India(Except ISB) is a backup plan
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You cannot concentrate on the Indian exams without losing focus on the GMAT.Both require different prep methods.
The CAT is a lot different from GMAT.The CAT RCs that are offered by the Indian Prep companies are longer and are usually more complicated than 700+ GMAT RC's.The CAT RCs resemble excerpts from some thesis,its that complex.CAT quant is tougher ,many will admit.
There is no rules to solving CAT SC's.There is no CR in CAT.The DI in CAT stretches all over the computer screen and there are so many numbers that you have to use scroll repeatedly to interpret them.
The GMAT and CAT both require special prepand and virtually there is an overlap but really no overlap.
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Which harder overall?
Hi Dawgie,The statistics that are associated with the IIMCAT exam and admissions in India are mind boggling.
The exam is no doubt tough.Imagine the exam is not a selection exam,its meant to be an elimination exam meant to screen a few from a Total Candidate strength of 260,000 people.You can imagine what sort of a test is required to screen such a huge number,yet there are chance that inspite of being in the top 1000 candidates you may end up not getting a single call from any of the IIMs.There have been lots of disasters with ppl getting 99.72 %ile without managing a single call for GD,Interview.
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Its a problem of numbers in India
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Yes the ratio of the number of applicants to the available seats is also very high.

Indian B schools even consider large number of fresh college graduates and this is one of the major reason,along with the reservation, that many applicants prefer MBA abroad.
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so are those indians who gets accepted into indian schools get almost perfect scores? i assume they ace the gmat too?

If you are well prepared for IIMCAT, then it becomes easy to tackle GMAT. As the student does not have to prepare for quant except DS strategies and time management. For that only OG's and Gmatprep are sufficient.

Second section is of DI and LR which is not covered in GMAT.

Third section is of verbal in which in addition to SC/CR/RC there are other topics as well.

So overall if you are well prepared for CAT, it becomes easy to crack GMAT. Only time management and Gmat related questions are required to be studied.

But the Verbal of Gmat is quite tricky in comparison to IIMCAT.

so do most indians who are applying to US schools and taking GMAT didnt get into the indian b schools or they see a "better chance" elsewhere because of the competitive nature?

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Shaselei, you from China, they have the same thing?

Well i came here when i was 9 but i am sure it is as competitive there as india... they have exams for Junior high and high school placements so it must be competitive.
IIMAhd has been ranked as the toughest school to get into and even there the Salaries are not as high as salaries offered in foreign bschools,although they attract the some of the best IB's & consulting cos.BCG comes there.
Indian Bschools still lag behind when it comes to infrastructure and medium of instruction ie:Case studies.
Its a bit more inclined towards theory.
Moreover,the admissions are governed to some extent by bureaucratic policymaking aimed at enticing the segments of society that the government thinks are "backward/underprivileged" for their votes,by according almost 50% reservations.
This exposes the system and the bureautic wrangling and obstructing your progress by backward policymaking is not the best way to teach business.
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