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# INSEAD - Dec '11 waitlist

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02 Jun 2010, 20:20
JZHANG2008 wrote:
Good morning, everyone!

Everyone, I am in a really chipper mood today cuz it's my birthday. :0) It has been really cool getting to know you guys on this forum. Let's hang in there. Hoepfully a few of us will get to go to INSEAD. And the rest of us can rely on each other's support in deciding which plan b to pursue.

Thanks for all of your input and support. I don't know how I would have managed being on the wait-list without our little community!

JZ

Hey Happy Birthday!!!
I hope you have a fun day.

Sorry haven't joined in the discussion. Felt really sad about INSEAD, and was on vacation. Now back on track-ish.

You know if I would collate all the details as posted here, most of our GMAT scores are in the 670-710 levels. Maybe GMAT was one of the criteria. Or at least for me, it seems like it.

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You know if I would collate all the details as posted here, most of our GMAT scores are in the 670-710 levels. Maybe GMAT was one of the criteria. Or at least for me, it seems like it.

If I were to correlate anything, I would do a bit of analysis on the favoured countries:

stk wrote:
For those of you who are interested in the admitted students so far here a short overview:

Fonty Campus male: 70
Fonty Campus female: 36
Singapore Campus male: 54
Singapore Campus female: 23

Indian: 24
American: 18
French: 15
Lebanese: 14
British: 12
German: 11
Chinese: 10
Russian: 7
Japanese: 4

Indians as you know have an extremely high bar to meet re everything. It's a country that has their lifeblood economy grounded in other countries (i.e. outsourcing and export/import). When I think of the other favoured nations, countries like US and Canada are countries of immigrants, so they are likely to have a strong international outlook. For the French, INSEAD probably attracts the cream of the cream of the crop, so no surprise. If they are holding back any major slots, it would be for places like Africa or South America. The low # of Japanese doesn't surprise me... they are a fairly closed country ... academically pretty solid, but not as strong for international outlook. Also, promotions are slow and steady, not up or out. So the GMAT may be an issue for you, but it depends on how you think you are relative to others in the leadership, ability to contribute, and international outlook areas relative to others. And that's the key, relative to others.

One last thing to consider is how they perceived your ability to be at the top. That's one of the reference questions - do you see this person being part of senior management one day. The adcom needs to see that you'll make VP or higher one day, or be making tons of money at your own company that you have a good shot at being successful at.
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04 Jun 2010, 18:44
Hey everyone. How are you doing? I took the past few days off so that I can come up with plan b. I've been sitting here chatting with my parents over glasses of pinot noir. Maybe it's the buzz but I think I might consider applying to LBS and/or Judge/Said. I think LBS tends to attract similar crowd of applicants in comparison to INSEAD. What do you think? Also, do you think Judge/Said is less competve than INSEAD? To be honest, I don't know much about Judge or Said so I guess I have to read up on them.

Have any of you applied to LBS, Judge or Said? I look forward to your thoughts.

Cheers!

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I think LBS tends to attract similar crowd of applicants in comparison to INSEAD. What do you think? Also, do you think Judge/Said is less competve than INSEAD? To be honest, I don't know much about Judge or Said so I guess I have to read up on them.

Looks like we're reaching the same shortlist for plan B. LBS and INSEAD are neck and neck in terms of the top non-US schools in the world. IMD is always debated whether they fit into the same category, but I think it's about where you are interested in going in the world. As for Judge/Said, it's a rung below LBS/INSEAD, and I would hazard a guess that if you're in this list of waitlisters, you are pretty competitive for Oxbridge. So, for now, my b-school plan B is to apply for Sept 2011 intakes, with LBS/INSEAD as having a good chance to get in if I up my game and upgrade my profile, and Judge/Said being more the safety schools.
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05 Jun 2010, 12:08
Hey guys, any idea about IE business school in Madrid? I am a bit skeptical about going to Spain, but this one seems pretty good.
Is anyone also planning to apply to Asian schools (HKUST, NUS, ISB et al)?

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10 Jun 2010, 00:35
hsourabh wrote:
Hey guys, any idea about IE business school in Madrid? I am a bit skeptical about going to Spain, but this one seems pretty good.
Is anyone also planning to apply to Asian schools (HKUST, NUS, ISB et al)?

I've considered IE (as well as IESE), but I the lack of "real" international exposure is a major drawback. And Spain doesn't look that good these days...

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13 Jun 2010, 07:03
I just had the most annoying phone call this morning. At 5am, there was a call from an international number - I didn't wake up but I saw the missed call afterwards. I noticed the country code was 65, which then put me into a state of wondering whether INSEAD Singapore campus called. I tried calling the number back but no answer.

Do any of you know whether INSEAD only calls on weekdays? And is it only the Fonty campus that calls? I recall that all admissions are centralized in Fonty, but would like to know everyone's thoughts.
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23 Jun 2010, 12:48
HankScorpio wrote:
Do any of you know whether INSEAD only calls on weekdays? And is it only the Fonty campus that calls? I recall that all admissions are centralized in Fonty, but would like to know everyone's thoughts.

It seems to me INSEAD only calls from Fonty. Any news on your side?

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24 Jun 2010, 09:19
Hey everyone. How's everyone been doing? It sounds like R1 deposit deadline is around the corner so maybe there will be some movement off the waitlist?

Anyway, hang in there.

JZ

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24 Jun 2010, 12:50
JZHANG2008 wrote:
Hey everyone. How's everyone been doing? It sounds like R1 deposit deadline is around the corner so maybe there will be some movement off the waitlist?

Anyway, hang in there.

JZ

Yes the deposit deadline is tomorrow so we will probably see some withdrawls in the whole people pool on MBA Connect. I will keep you posted if there are significant changes.

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24 Jun 2010, 13:26
Rakham wrote:
It seems to me INSEAD only calls from Fonty. Any news on your side?

No news. Eagerly waiting for next week... hope a few of us are lucky in getting off the waitlist.
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28 Jun 2010, 01:49
Still nothing... Any new guys on the waitlist?

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28 Jun 2010, 07:20
No news unfortunately ((

For those of you who are in the same boat, this is my situation: I am admitted by IE and I am due to pay the deposit by the end of this week, this after they kindly agreed to give me about two-week extension. Of course I can prolong this a bit more but it would put at risk my chances to start with the next intake - Nov 2010.

As I see it, the chances of big moves on the wait list at the moment are small. In my opinion INSEAD first processes R2 applications and then they decide on waitlisters. But I don't have the time to wait for them. Therefore, I have decided to wait until the end of this week to see if I am lucky enough and if not - I am going to IE. Of course I plan to write to my admin coordinator first.

Your inputs will be highly appreciated

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28 Jun 2010, 07:31
pipi wrote:
No news unfortunately ((

As I see it, the chances of big moves on the wait list at the moment are small. In my opinion INSEAD first processes R2 applications and then they decide on waitlisters. But I don't have the time to wait for them. Therefore, I have decided to wait until the end of this week to see if I am lucky enough and if not - I am going to IE. Of course I plan to write to my admin coordinator first.

Your inputs will be highly appreciated

I think you're doing the right thing. In fact, I expect an answer from INSEAD only after R3 is finished (pessimistic or down to earth, you choose) I hope you'll get an answer soon!

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28 Jun 2010, 21:13
pipi wrote:
As I see it, the chances of big moves on the wait list at the moment are small. In my opinion INSEAD first processes R2 applications and then they decide on waitlisters.

So, based on that opinion (which I'll try to justify below with my logic), here are the approx dates we should be looking at for most movement:

2nd Round processing done - Aug 23-27
3rd Round processing done - Oct 4-Oct 8

My guesstimate is that the processing of all interview results are complete the week prior to the notification of the final decision. I think that is fair given that most interview results are requested to be completed 3 weeks prior to the decision notification (some exceptions exist of course due to difficulty finding interviewers and other issues).

My general guess for D11 is that students will likely accept the offer if they're given one as other other schools aren't near the application cycle, so for the most part applicants aren't deciding between INSEAD and other schools that have accepted them. Also, I have noticed J12 now only has 3 rounds, so INSEAD is probably receiving more matriculates than prior years and does not need to waste resources on a 4th round.

Any thoughts on my thesis? I scanned through a few previous rounds of applicants, but didn't find much data on WL movement. I'm just trying to come up with dates so I know when to withdraw from the WL and apply to J12.
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29 Jun 2010, 00:50
Just some short info from my side. Now that the payment deadline for Installment 1 was due last friday there seems to be only 6 withdrawls so far. I would have expected a much bigger number...

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29 Jun 2010, 06:18
stk wrote:
Just some short info from my side. Now that the payment deadline for Installment 1 was due last friday there seems to be only 6 withdrawls so far. I would have expected a much bigger number...

I think that confirms a lot of our suspicions - that there won't be much movement in the waitlist, especially for deposits. The Dxx rounds tend to compete a lot less with the top US based schools and LBS - from what little I could find in the forums, it's usually people waiting to hear from INSEAD while they already have an accept elsewhere. I even saw one nailbiting scenario of someone deciding not to pay their LBS deposit and then finally ending up on the INSEAD waitlist.
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01 Jul 2010, 17:28
Typically, Class of December doesn't have too many withdrawals as the session is not in sync with mst of other top business schools. Only Columbia J-Term, IMD and INSEAD have a program starting in January.
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16 Jul 2010, 01:45
Hello everyone,

Did anyone on the wait-list hear anything from the committee?

Thanks,

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16 Jul 2010, 02:30
Nope...

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