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25 Oct 2013, 01:24
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hey guys...new member here. I got admitted to the D14 class. From reading the forum it seems there is a private facebook group for new admits. Can I get an invite? Do i need to send someone my email address?
I heard about admission on wednesday, received the congrats email on thursday, but so far no mba connect info.
I heard about admission on wednesday, received the congrats email on thursday, but so far no mba connect info.
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25 Oct 2013, 01:40
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of course Duc is the man. just click on the link on his signature and request the join, once you are on MBAconnect he will accept you.
Duc , where is my daily MBAconnect update for today ??!!
atomosbomb
Joined: 05 Sep 2013
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Schools: INSEAD Jan '13 (WA)
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Updated on: 25 Oct 2013, 02:15
Originally posted by atomosbomb on 25 Oct 2013, 01:51.
Last edited by atomosbomb on 25 Oct 2013, 02:15, edited 2 times in total.
Last edited by atomosbomb on 25 Oct 2013, 02:15, edited 2 times in total.
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Congrats to all R3 admits! Pls do join the FB grp that Ducceus has formed for our 14D class! Will be nice to put some faces to your gmatclub nicks 
. And dont forget to party hard!
Sorry to those who got dinged.. Well, the best advice is to take heart and work on your plan Bs. If it includes re-applying to INSEAD again, do make sure you know what your weaknesses are in your application and that they are rectified in your re-application. No harm also to talk to more INSEAD students and alumni to seek their opinions on your re-application too.
For those on wait-list, let me see if I can provide some pointers here (by no means are these definite but am sharing based on my own experience on managing the wait-list when I was on it).
============================================================================
a- What to do now?
If you read many blogs etc, there are various version to this. Some will say to secure a 3rd recommendation letter (if you have not), some others will ask that you continue to write to your coordinator to indicate your continuous interest whilst yet others will say you dont have to do anything if you do not have real value to add to your current application. For myself, I took a bite in each of these advices.
So here is from my exp:
-- Mental note: Do not attempt to update your coordinator if you have nothing to update. I can’t stress more for this as even if INSEAD offers you chance to update them, do not use this avenue as a desperate attempt to add to your file when there is nothing to add. You can spend the time doing more impt things which I will address them below. If you want to show continued interest, there are other more practical and meaningful ways. --
1) I secured a third recommendation letter from my 2nd Director of my department. I already had 2 recommendations for my application: 1) From CEO, 2) From 1st Director. Meaning the third recommendation letter can be WEAKER than the first 2. But, the difference is that as the third recommendation allows for free format text, there is flexibility on how you want to use it. My advice, read through all your essays, talk more to alumni/students/admin staff. Key is to find YOUR WEAKNESS and SHOW in the letter what you have done to make up for them since your essays/interviews.
--- (Though I must quietly admit that even after securing the letter, before I could send to my coordinator, I got the call of my admission. So the letter is sitting on my table. But I never regretted going through this self searching process of addressing my own weaknesses).
2) Do not stop connecting with INSEAD alumni and administrative staff. I went to several countless more MBA talks where INSEAD is present. Talk to alumni and connect with them. Talk to staff, teachers etc (if rep from adcomm is around, it's even better!) Share to them on your wait-list situation and hear from their perspective on your story. Key is to show interest and to find out even more if the school is still what you want cause if you eventually got a ding, you may want to re-apply again.
3) Never stop working on PLAN B- If I may say anything more, this is in fact the most impt. There are no guarantees. You have done your best (if you have not, it means that you may not have thought through hard if INSEAD is really where you want to be). I actually worked on it in 2 ways.
First, I continue to chart what are the things I need to do if I get accepted and work on them (eg. entry/exit language; financing; relocation plans). When you are informed of your admission decision, you may not have time to think through them.
Second, I thought of what I want to do if i am not accepted. For me, I see MBA as an additional value for my future career. Meaning, I continue to look for value in other areas of my current work and work on them to contribute to my overall career story. I chose to defer my MBA if I am not accepted while working on areas to value-add to my profile. If your present job does not add to it, you may want to think what other jobs might better suit you. If your job is great, find more valuable work to add to it. THEN think where an MBA with INSEAD can contribute. If you are rejected in the end, it can mean that the time is not right for you or you may not have the right profile currently. So deferring can be an option.
b- How long do I wait?
The beauty is ... you certainly should not wait if you don't have to. No don't get me wrong to say that you should give up. What I meant is, you have done your best and the ball is no longer in your court. So all you can and should do is to work on your plan B or just apply to other schools of your choice etc. If you choose to wait however, admit calls can come anytime from the time you have accepted to be on the waitlist, to just before the INSEAD programme starts (I have spoken to ample alumni to hear that some only got off the waitlist 1 week before school began). Sadly, that's not the most ideal as it can be disruptive ONLY if you allow it and that is why you should start your plan B when you are put on waitlist. For me, I got off waitlist after 2 weeks (I was an R2 applicant).
c- Should I re-apply if I was rejected from waitlist?
Although I have not been through this stage, I have indeed thought through it elaborately. I am assuming that if you asked yourself this qns, you are certain INSEAD is for you and you are certain to re-apply again sometime in the future.
For those who may not know, if INSEAD has to reject you if you were put on waitlist for reasons of inadequate capacity, you are given an option to re-apply within 6 months and ONLY submit Essay 7 (can't remember if it is 7, but it is the essay on re-application) but you would still have to pay the full admin fee for the application. The question here is deeper than at surface. If you have done enough homework, you would know where your weaknesses are in your application. You then have to ask yourself if you are you able to convince Adcom that you have improved on them significantly enough to be granted admission. If the answer is yes, by all means, re-apply. If the answer is no, it might be good to consider to re-apply again when these gaps are filled (sadly for this option, if it is beyond 6 months, you will need to complete all essays and secure recommendations letters again). There are plenty of opportunity costs in both options. You just have to weigh which is more impt to you. For me, I worked on a 3 years plan. If I was not admitted, I will only re-apply 1 or 2 years later when I know my weaknesses have been fully covered.
-- Final note: I hope this is helpful to those on waitlist but pls don’t take this as definite ways that will guarantee your admission. As I said, I have worked on all the above and actually got admitted from the waitlist even though I DID NOT update my coordinator nor submit my 3rd recommendation letter. Meaning, I would have been admitted even if I did not do anything except to wait. But I have never regretted doing any of the above as the experience is well worth it and getting into INSEAD means even more to me. Also, some have said the waitlist is just to organise the class mix and as there are just too many applicants, INSEAD will need more time to get it right. In any case, not sure if it means anything but to share, I have not applied to other schools except to INSEAD and many other admits I have talked to had also applied only to INSEAD --
. And dont forget to party hard!Sorry to those who got dinged.. Well, the best advice is to take heart and work on your plan Bs. If it includes re-applying to INSEAD again, do make sure you know what your weaknesses are in your application and that they are rectified in your re-application. No harm also to talk to more INSEAD students and alumni to seek their opinions on your re-application too.
For those on wait-list, let me see if I can provide some pointers here (by no means are these definite but am sharing based on my own experience on managing the wait-list when I was on it).
============================================================================
a- What to do now?
If you read many blogs etc, there are various version to this. Some will say to secure a 3rd recommendation letter (if you have not), some others will ask that you continue to write to your coordinator to indicate your continuous interest whilst yet others will say you dont have to do anything if you do not have real value to add to your current application. For myself, I took a bite in each of these advices.
So here is from my exp:
-- Mental note: Do not attempt to update your coordinator if you have nothing to update. I can’t stress more for this as even if INSEAD offers you chance to update them, do not use this avenue as a desperate attempt to add to your file when there is nothing to add. You can spend the time doing more impt things which I will address them below. If you want to show continued interest, there are other more practical and meaningful ways. --
1) I secured a third recommendation letter from my 2nd Director of my department. I already had 2 recommendations for my application: 1) From CEO, 2) From 1st Director. Meaning the third recommendation letter can be WEAKER than the first 2. But, the difference is that as the third recommendation allows for free format text, there is flexibility on how you want to use it. My advice, read through all your essays, talk more to alumni/students/admin staff. Key is to find YOUR WEAKNESS and SHOW in the letter what you have done to make up for them since your essays/interviews.
--- (Though I must quietly admit that even after securing the letter, before I could send to my coordinator, I got the call of my admission. So the letter is sitting on my table. But I never regretted going through this self searching process of addressing my own weaknesses).
2) Do not stop connecting with INSEAD alumni and administrative staff. I went to several countless more MBA talks where INSEAD is present. Talk to alumni and connect with them. Talk to staff, teachers etc (if rep from adcomm is around, it's even better!) Share to them on your wait-list situation and hear from their perspective on your story. Key is to show interest and to find out even more if the school is still what you want cause if you eventually got a ding, you may want to re-apply again.
3) Never stop working on PLAN B- If I may say anything more, this is in fact the most impt. There are no guarantees. You have done your best (if you have not, it means that you may not have thought through hard if INSEAD is really where you want to be). I actually worked on it in 2 ways.
First, I continue to chart what are the things I need to do if I get accepted and work on them (eg. entry/exit language; financing; relocation plans). When you are informed of your admission decision, you may not have time to think through them.
Second, I thought of what I want to do if i am not accepted. For me, I see MBA as an additional value for my future career. Meaning, I continue to look for value in other areas of my current work and work on them to contribute to my overall career story. I chose to defer my MBA if I am not accepted while working on areas to value-add to my profile. If your present job does not add to it, you may want to think what other jobs might better suit you. If your job is great, find more valuable work to add to it. THEN think where an MBA with INSEAD can contribute. If you are rejected in the end, it can mean that the time is not right for you or you may not have the right profile currently. So deferring can be an option.
b- How long do I wait?
The beauty is ... you certainly should not wait if you don't have to. No don't get me wrong to say that you should give up. What I meant is, you have done your best and the ball is no longer in your court. So all you can and should do is to work on your plan B or just apply to other schools of your choice etc. If you choose to wait however, admit calls can come anytime from the time you have accepted to be on the waitlist, to just before the INSEAD programme starts (I have spoken to ample alumni to hear that some only got off the waitlist 1 week before school began). Sadly, that's not the most ideal as it can be disruptive ONLY if you allow it and that is why you should start your plan B when you are put on waitlist. For me, I got off waitlist after 2 weeks (I was an R2 applicant).
c- Should I re-apply if I was rejected from waitlist?
Although I have not been through this stage, I have indeed thought through it elaborately. I am assuming that if you asked yourself this qns, you are certain INSEAD is for you and you are certain to re-apply again sometime in the future.
For those who may not know, if INSEAD has to reject you if you were put on waitlist for reasons of inadequate capacity, you are given an option to re-apply within 6 months and ONLY submit Essay 7 (can't remember if it is 7, but it is the essay on re-application) but you would still have to pay the full admin fee for the application. The question here is deeper than at surface. If you have done enough homework, you would know where your weaknesses are in your application. You then have to ask yourself if you are you able to convince Adcom that you have improved on them significantly enough to be granted admission. If the answer is yes, by all means, re-apply. If the answer is no, it might be good to consider to re-apply again when these gaps are filled (sadly for this option, if it is beyond 6 months, you will need to complete all essays and secure recommendations letters again). There are plenty of opportunity costs in both options. You just have to weigh which is more impt to you. For me, I worked on a 3 years plan. If I was not admitted, I will only re-apply 1 or 2 years later when I know my weaknesses have been fully covered.
-- Final note: I hope this is helpful to those on waitlist but pls don’t take this as definite ways that will guarantee your admission. As I said, I have worked on all the above and actually got admitted from the waitlist even though I DID NOT update my coordinator nor submit my 3rd recommendation letter. Meaning, I would have been admitted even if I did not do anything except to wait. But I have never regretted doing any of the above as the experience is well worth it and getting into INSEAD means even more to me. Also, some have said the waitlist is just to organise the class mix and as there are just too many applicants, INSEAD will need more time to get it right. In any case, not sure if it means anything but to share, I have not applied to other schools except to INSEAD and many other admits I have talked to had also applied only to INSEAD --
.........kdn 
