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osbornecox
26 Dec 2009, 14:06
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To be honest, I'm in a similar position.
LBS graduates having a hard time in the US may have more to do with visa restrictions than the perceived quality of the graduate (from the employer's perspective).
But yes, their MSF is more suited to markets than their MBA; the MBA craze was never that strong in Europe.
I don't know how Yale does with trading, but I'm guessing it's fairly low, simply because it's a small school and those interested in finance seem to go towards banking.
NYU is probably a good bet for S&T and if you're competitive at Duke and Yale, you should have a good shot at NYU too.
I'm not very familiar with Cornell.
I've read that Haas is not the best choice if you're interested in trading - it's more of a West Coast tech project management and VC school, apparently. I have family who went to Haas and they are career international bankers, but I think you're interested in what's statistically reliable.
I would try calling Duke up and ask to speak to them about their graduates who have gone on to S&T positions. One thing: I'm not sure how many of them end up doing brokerage at Bank of America, since it's more of a regional thing.
LBS graduates having a hard time in the US may have more to do with visa restrictions than the perceived quality of the graduate (from the employer's perspective).
But yes, their MSF is more suited to markets than their MBA; the MBA craze was never that strong in Europe.
I don't know how Yale does with trading, but I'm guessing it's fairly low, simply because it's a small school and those interested in finance seem to go towards banking.
NYU is probably a good bet for S&T and if you're competitive at Duke and Yale, you should have a good shot at NYU too.
I'm not very familiar with Cornell.
I've read that Haas is not the best choice if you're interested in trading - it's more of a West Coast tech project management and VC school, apparently. I have family who went to Haas and they are career international bankers, but I think you're interested in what's statistically reliable.
I would try calling Duke up and ask to speak to them about their graduates who have gone on to S&T positions. One thing: I'm not sure how many of them end up doing brokerage at Bank of America, since it's more of a regional thing.
26 Dec 2009, 17:04
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You wouldn't come to LBS if you wanted to do S&T in NYC. We do have a New York trek but the general advice is that if you dont have work authorisation, its incredibly difficult to find a Finance internship (not just S&T) in the US. The whole TARP thing doesn't make life any easier for even those internationals who go to US school (ask 3underscore who went to Stern).
However, LBS is awesome for S&T in London, Asia (Hong Kong / Singapore ) and Europe. Both the MBA and MiFs place plenty in S&T roles (even some career switchers managed internships in trading positions at BBs last year - which was one of the worst years ever to get into S&T).
However, LBS is awesome for S&T in London, Asia (Hong Kong / Singapore ) and Europe. Both the MBA and MiFs place plenty in S&T roles (even some career switchers managed internships in trading positions at BBs last year - which was one of the worst years ever to get into S&T).
osbornecox
27 Dec 2009, 01:23
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Well, I am a US citizen/resident. As far as I know this authorization/visa issue would not affect me out of LBS ...
I have heard that this difficulty landing US jobs from LBS does have to do with the perceived prestige of the degree in the states, as well as the much smaller network. I'm wondering whether a school like Yale/Duke/Cornell actually has better placement / brand value for US firms directly from MBA (Visa issues aside).
Another option to consider would be LBS + job in UK for a couple of years, then transfer to the states. My impression is that one's post-MBA position has much greater influence on career trajectory than the degree a few years in. Anyone agree, or is it still best to go with a US degree with large network if your goal is to be in the states at any point?
Also, Smilies, I hear it is somewhat easier for Americans than Europeans to get into LBS these days. If I were to judge purely based on numbers LBS would be like a Duke or Carnegie Mellon to get into (700 avg GMAT, 2500 applicants), but I know you guys are often compared to Wharton, NYU. Thoughts?
I have heard that this difficulty landing US jobs from LBS does have to do with the perceived prestige of the degree in the states, as well as the much smaller network. I'm wondering whether a school like Yale/Duke/Cornell actually has better placement / brand value for US firms directly from MBA (Visa issues aside).
Another option to consider would be LBS + job in UK for a couple of years, then transfer to the states. My impression is that one's post-MBA position has much greater influence on career trajectory than the degree a few years in. Anyone agree, or is it still best to go with a US degree with large network if your goal is to be in the states at any point?
Also, Smilies, I hear it is somewhat easier for Americans than Europeans to get into LBS these days. If I were to judge purely based on numbers LBS would be like a Duke or Carnegie Mellon to get into (700 avg GMAT, 2500 applicants), but I know you guys are often compared to Wharton, NYU. Thoughts?
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