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# Kellogg R1: Lets the pants pooping continue here!

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04 Jan 2007, 16:00
rhyme wrote:
Hindustan wrote:
yep. ding..

Well, I'll wait and see since I have 3 others... coming up soon...MIT, Stanford and HAAs...

A friend of mine, with 770 GMAT score, a 3.95 GPA Caltech Bach and Masters, Indian, got dinged as well.

I always wonder the criteria for creating their classes for 2009?

I mean there are numerous ppl with stellar skills in all domains and still get dinged. The committee just wants a varied class, even if it means dinging a truly all round stellar candidate.

You know, this reminds me a bit of a girl I used to know back during my undergraduate applications. She was stellar all around - I'm talking enough college level credits to skip all of her entire freshman year at any US university, top of her class, 1500 something SAT (back when the max was 1600), etc. She applied everywhere and got rejected across the board - only got in at Cornell. We never figured it out.

Hindustan, sorry to hear about the ding.

I guess that only leaves me and flapjack hoping in R1.

So what do you think flapjack - either of us have a chance?

at times i wonder if it all depends on how much you show why that particular school...
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04 Jan 2007, 16:06
I am wondering how much it makes a difference travelling to schools....so on that note, how many of you actually travelled to Kellogg?

I know mbaexchange.com 'strongly' encourages its clients to travel to schools.
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05 Jan 2007, 07:39
Rhyme, we both have a chance. I'm not sure how good my chances are because I was certain I would get in to Chicago and only got on the Waitlist (although I still might get in).

I sent in both parts of the application the day before the first round due date and only had my interview about 4 weeks ago, so maybe that's why I have not heard anything.

I did visit Kellogg and have very strong ties to Northwestern - I will elaborate if I get in. I'd rather not do it now because I don't want to out myself.
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05 Jan 2007, 07:46
flapjack wrote:
Rhyme, we both have a chance. I'm not sure how good my chances are because I was certain I would get in to Chicago and only got on the Waitlist (although I still might get in).

I sent in both parts of the application the day before the first round due date and only had my interview about 4 weeks ago, so maybe that's why I have not heard anything.

I did visit Kellogg and have very strong ties to Northwestern - I will elaborate if I get in. I'd rather not do it now because I don't want to out myself.

I submitted a few days before the deadline but had completed my interview weeks before. I also have lots of ties to Northwestern - Kellogg specifically. I'm the exact opposite: I would have thought my odds at Kellogg were better than my odds at GSB, so maybe that means you'll get an admit and I'll get a waitlist!

Id love to hear today, but I've resigned myself to waiting till Monday.
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05 Jan 2007, 09:35
I guess we'll find out soon enough.

I thought that my interview went pretty well, but it's always hard to tell. The interviewer said she was impressed by my resume but she did ask about extracurriculars (which are lacking - I work a lot and do not have any meaningful extracurriculars).

I really question the relevance of extra-curricular activities to being successful in business school and in the business world, but that's a post for another day.
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05 Jan 2007, 09:49
On the BW forums, there seems to be an atmosphere of defeat. However, according to admissions411.com...

2008 R1
Applicants: 154
Accepted: 58 (37.66%)

2009 R1
Applicants: 175
Accepted so far: 41 (23.43%)

I am hopeful that there are still admits coming. I'd guess anywhere between 33.3% ((58 - 41) / 58) to 37.8% ((37.66 - 23.43) / 37.66) of admits remain.
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05 Jan 2007, 10:09
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On the BW forums, there seems to be an atmosphere of defeat. However, according to admissions411.com...

2008 R1
Applicants: 154
Accepted: 58 (37.66%)

2009 R1
Applicants: 175
Accepted so far: 41 (23.43%)

I am hopeful that there are still admits coming. I'd guess anywhere between 33.3% ((58 - 41) / 58) to 37.8% ((37.66 - 23.43) / 37.66) of admits remain.

Yea but is that 58 counting waitlisted people admitted later?
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05 Jan 2007, 10:14
I saw that post on BW too. Admissions411 definitely does not agree: only 3 were admitted off the R1 waitlist.
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05 Jan 2007, 10:18
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I saw that post on BW too. Admissions411 definitely does not agree: only 3 were admitted off the R1 waitlist.

Yea, 300 from the waitlist seems waaay off..
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05 Jan 2007, 10:29
Indeed. 300 ON the waitlist is much more reasonable. Admissions411.com reports 60 people on the waitlist for all rounds last year.

400 peeps on adm411 / ~4000 real applicants = 10%
60 / 10% = 600 on the real waitlist, total

That seems a little high, but really, who knows.

We should start our own B-school on the premise that its application process will be the most open and transparent of all the schools. We'd get so many applicants... At $200 a pop, how could we go wrong?! GMAT Club Legend Affiliations: HHonors Diamond, BGS Honor Society Joined: 05 Apr 2006 Posts: 5926 Schools: Chicago (Booth) - Class of 2009 GMAT 1: 730 Q45 V45 WE: Business Development (Consumer Products) Followers: 315 Kudos [?]: 2051 [0], given: 7 ### Show Tags 05 Jan 2007, 11:01 brown wrote: Indeed. 300 ON the waitlist is much more reasonable. Admissions411.com reports 60 people on the waitlist for all rounds last year. 400 peeps on adm411 / ~4000 real applicants = 10% 60 / 10% = 600 on the real waitlist, total That seems a little high, but really, who knows. We should start our own B-school on the premise that its application process will be the most open and transparent of all the schools. We'd get so many applicants... At$200 a pop, how could we go wrong?!

Well keep in mind that the cross section of applicants on admissions411 is heavily skewed to the 700+ range - which make up about 60% of the applicants - (see: http://www.kellogg.northwestern.edu/adm ... res_06.pdf )

which also make up over 60% of student body. It stands to reason therefore that the number of waitlists at that level are, just like the admits, higher than below the 700 mark. That is, the breakdown is probably not linear - the number of waitlists over the 700 mark is likely higher than those below.

It's frustrating to realize that a decision has, in all likelyhood, already been made, and just not communicated.
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05 Jan 2007, 11:08

41. Private 740 89 99 1 China Engineering 34 3.1 - 11/22/2006 1/5/2007 Unknown

edit: Make that two waitlists.

Looks like its just waitlists left...
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05 Jan 2007, 11:15
rhyme wrote:

41. Private 740 89 99 1 China Engineering 34 3.1 - 11/22/2006 1/5/2007 Unknown

edit: Make that two waitlists.

Looks like its just waitlists left...

they could always be giving out decisions by last names
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05 Jan 2007, 11:15
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It's frustrating to realize that a decision has, in all likelyhood, already been made, and just not communicated.

Amen.
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05 Jan 2007, 11:21
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they could always be giving out decisions by last names

My last name starts with an 'E', so I doubt that's it.

Maybe they could be going east to west? I'm on the west coast.
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05 Jan 2007, 11:31
brown wrote:
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they could always be giving out decisions by last names

My last name starts with an 'E', so I doubt that's it.

Maybe they could be going east to west? I'm on the west coast.

Doubt that. I'm CST, they woulda made to me by now

Got the first ding of the day.

58. Private 740 - - - USA Engineering 25 - - 10/25/2006 No Ding 1/5/2006
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05 Jan 2007, 11:33
Boom and theres another ding.

65. Private 730 93 86 2 USA Finance 26 3.29 - 11/13/2006 No Ding 1/5/2007

Even closer to my own profile.
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05 Jan 2007, 11:35
Kellogg isn't very friendly to engineers and software peeps:

Engineering: 5 / 37 (13.51%)
Software Development: 2 / 17 (11.76%)
Compared to overall: 124 / 400 (31%)

Doesn't bode well for this sad software engineer
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05 Jan 2007, 11:39
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Kellogg isn't very friendly to engineers and software peeps:

Engineering: 5 / 37 (13.51%)
Software Development: 2 / 17 (11.76%)
Compared to overall: 124 / 400 (31%)

Doesn't bode well for this sad software engineer

Join the club. IT in general is a tough bunch to be in.
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05 Jan 2007, 12:03
So... I'm physically at work, but I'm definitely not "working." Is it safe to assume that's the case with all of the poor souls waiting on Kellogg R1?
05 Jan 2007, 12:03

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