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25 Mar 2019, 02:59
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Hi,
I have received offers from LBS, Oxford & Cambridge, and am deeply conflicted at the moment, hope to obtain alternative perspectives here to help me decide on which school to go to：
1. Goal - to break into an Investment (fintech, PE/ VC, and maybe IB) in Europe after MBA, and returning to start own business in Asia
2. Background - Asian male with fintech & direct investment experience in Asia, hence PE/ VC wouldnt be a quite a stretch
Now pros & cons:
1. Ox vs Cam -
strongly prefer Ox, due to the Finance Lab and overll better admission experience with Oxford. After speaking to alumni from both schools, i concluded that I prefer Oxford, too. But Cambridge offers a significant amount of bursary, which will definitely help me avoid a student loan. If I do end up choosing Ox, I believe I can make a strong case to appeal for financial assistance.
2. LBS vs. Ox -
a. Point to LBS - many who have done an MBA (LBS alumni AND non-LBS alumni) strongly encouraged me to take up LBS's offer (better programme, stronger placement in finance, higher-ranked MBA). I really do enjoy and appreciate the smooth application process and LBS team's engagement, and talking to the alumni made me feel like I'd enjoy LBS just as much as I would in Ox.
a. Point to Oxford - the fees (and living expenses in London over a longer programme period) are significantly higher at LBS (estimated to almost double what I'd incur in Ox, after taking into personal circumstances). Hence, I will definitely need to take up a student loan to fund my LBS journey - would very much like to avoid taking up a loan
b. Point to Oxford - I'd be travelling with my family, and the fam will probably enjoy Ox more. I would really enjoy living in one of the colleges but i wonder if the hectic programme will allow me to enjoy much of it...
c. Point to LBS - longer programme period, more time for me to experience the programme which will benefit me for a lifetime. Beyond a doubt a solid MBA programme as well.
d. Point to LBS - London = job opportunities =better career outcome (definitely for my short term goals)
e. Point to Oxford - university brandname that is goes beyond the corporate/ professional world. Would carry significant weight in a future entrepreneurial/ family business, too.
these are the major points that I can think of, do let me know if there are other points tht I will need to consider, and what do you guys think?a
I have received offers from LBS, Oxford & Cambridge, and am deeply conflicted at the moment, hope to obtain alternative perspectives here to help me decide on which school to go to：
1. Goal - to break into an Investment (fintech, PE/ VC, and maybe IB) in Europe after MBA, and returning to start own business in Asia
2. Background - Asian male with fintech & direct investment experience in Asia, hence PE/ VC wouldnt be a quite a stretch
Now pros & cons:
1. Ox vs Cam -
strongly prefer Ox, due to the Finance Lab and overll better admission experience with Oxford. After speaking to alumni from both schools, i concluded that I prefer Oxford, too. But Cambridge offers a significant amount of bursary, which will definitely help me avoid a student loan. If I do end up choosing Ox, I believe I can make a strong case to appeal for financial assistance.
2. LBS vs. Ox -
a. Point to LBS - many who have done an MBA (LBS alumni AND non-LBS alumni) strongly encouraged me to take up LBS's offer (better programme, stronger placement in finance, higher-ranked MBA). I really do enjoy and appreciate the smooth application process and LBS team's engagement, and talking to the alumni made me feel like I'd enjoy LBS just as much as I would in Ox.
a. Point to Oxford - the fees (and living expenses in London over a longer programme period) are significantly higher at LBS (estimated to almost double what I'd incur in Ox, after taking into personal circumstances). Hence, I will definitely need to take up a student loan to fund my LBS journey - would very much like to avoid taking up a loan
b. Point to Oxford - I'd be travelling with my family, and the fam will probably enjoy Ox more. I would really enjoy living in one of the colleges but i wonder if the hectic programme will allow me to enjoy much of it...
c. Point to LBS - longer programme period, more time for me to experience the programme which will benefit me for a lifetime. Beyond a doubt a solid MBA programme as well.
d. Point to LBS - London = job opportunities =better career outcome (definitely for my short term goals)
e. Point to Oxford - university brandname that is goes beyond the corporate/ professional world. Would carry significant weight in a future entrepreneurial/ family business, too.
these are the major points that I can think of, do let me know if there are other points tht I will need to consider, and what do you guys think?a
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Oxford is an older crowd, might be better for the family. They have a strong finance arm too so you may not feel the ranking hit as much as others in different areas.
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25 Mar 2019, 10:53
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Congratulations on your admits!
Your plan to go back to your home country is similar to what I have had before i started my MBA. The reality is different though. It is hard to move your family once to go to UK/London/Oxford then readjust and move the second time when you find a job, and then again a few years later once you get adjusted and settle into a routine. I think if you were NOT planning to stay and work in UK/EU, then I would likely recommend Oxford. With your plan to stay in London, LBS is very strong there, much stronger than Oxford, so in the short term it is a better program. Depending on your age/experience, it may be helpful to have that summer internship and a 2-year experience vs. 1-year, but with a family (wife/kids), I am not sure you can afford that in terms of $$ or time....
LBS is a top 3 Program outside of the US (likely one of the top 2 programs since it is really between INSEAD and LBS).
Oxford is a new program. Fairly recent and somewhat unestablished yet. Take a look at some of the reviews posted by the current students and alumni: https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_s ... -oxford-25 The brand of Oxford is strong but what I am hearing that's the overall brand. Said is virtually unknown. With IB recruiting track - that's highly competitive and I feel you almost have to go to LBS to be considered. I think your biggest goal is to speak to Oxford students (seems you did it already with some LBS folks) and get a sense for recruiting in your target industry. You can also troll LinkedIn and see which school places where and where a network exists, in which companies, etc.
Ultimately, For your London recruiting LBS is much better and is the 2-year FT experience of a traditional US MBA. but I don't have enough information to see if you can get the most out of a 2-year experience with family waiting on you and not producing income. You could go to Oxford, try to recruit in London/UK/EU and if it is a bust just go home and start working on your own venture in Asia. That will save you $$ and a year of life. Also, a lot easier to start a company when you don't have debt.
Congratulations!!!
BB.
Your plan to go back to your home country is similar to what I have had before i started my MBA. The reality is different though. It is hard to move your family once to go to UK/London/Oxford then readjust and move the second time when you find a job, and then again a few years later once you get adjusted and settle into a routine. I think if you were NOT planning to stay and work in UK/EU, then I would likely recommend Oxford. With your plan to stay in London, LBS is very strong there, much stronger than Oxford, so in the short term it is a better program. Depending on your age/experience, it may be helpful to have that summer internship and a 2-year experience vs. 1-year, but with a family (wife/kids), I am not sure you can afford that in terms of $$ or time....
LBS is a top 3 Program outside of the US (likely one of the top 2 programs since it is really between INSEAD and LBS).
Oxford is a new program. Fairly recent and somewhat unestablished yet. Take a look at some of the reviews posted by the current students and alumni: https://gmatclub.com/reviews/business_s ... -oxford-25 The brand of Oxford is strong but what I am hearing that's the overall brand. Said is virtually unknown. With IB recruiting track - that's highly competitive and I feel you almost have to go to LBS to be considered. I think your biggest goal is to speak to Oxford students (seems you did it already with some LBS folks) and get a sense for recruiting in your target industry. You can also troll LinkedIn and see which school places where and where a network exists, in which companies, etc.
Ultimately, For your London recruiting LBS is much better and is the 2-year FT experience of a traditional US MBA. but I don't have enough information to see if you can get the most out of a 2-year experience with family waiting on you and not producing income. You could go to Oxford, try to recruit in London/UK/EU and if it is a bust just go home and start working on your own venture in Asia. That will save you $$ and a year of life. Also, a lot easier to start a company when you don't have debt.
Congratulations!!!
BB.
