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Maria Bonaparte put up the ransom that the Nazis insisted on if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.

(A) if Freud was to be allowed
(B) if Freud were allowed
(C) should Freud be allowed
(D) if they will allow Freud
(E) should allowance be made for Freud
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I would go for C.

If fred were to be allowed... may have gotten my nod.

But with the choices given, I go for C.

I think B slightly changes the meaning. It sounds as if "ransom is asked, if fred was allowed to leave the country". The ransom is asked to allow him to leave, not if he leaves.

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I would go for C.

If fred were to be allowed... may have gotten my nod.

But with the choices given, I go for C.

I think B slightly changes the meaning. It sounds like ransom is asked, if fred was allowed to leave the country. The ransom is asked to allow him to leave not if he leaves.


Good point...this question only tests the change of meaning.

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Unfortunately, OA is A....A...A...

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YHP, you have OE for this question ?


and the source?


Yes, I would also like to know! only B and C are possible answers to me with C edging out B.. A is a choice one should never choose on the test! :?

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Unfortunately, OA is A....A...A...


seems you have wrong answer. in subjunctive case, was has to be were or inversion with had or should.

so only C survives.

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I don't have OE... but I think that OA that I have known for this question might be not correct.

It is from Kaplan in Seoul

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Hi, there. I'm happy to give my 2¢ on this issue. :)

This is a very tricky use of the subjunctive.

... if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.

This has the verb "was" in the ordinary past tense. It was factual and determined: Freud was going to be allowed leave Vienna --- as long as somebody greased some Nazi palms, then there was absolutely no doubt about this possibility.

... if Freud were to be allowed to leave Vienna.

This has the verb "were" in the subjunctive, which in an "if" clause suggests a situation contrary to fact. This would say that, in fact, Freud was not going to be allowed to leave Vienna, that it was not a realistic possibility, but we could imagine some other, hypothetical set of circumstances in which that would be a possibility.

The relationship here calls for the factual statement. When Maria Bonaparte put up the money, there was no doubt in anyone's mind that Freud would be allowed to go. Yes, it was a shady deal, but nonetheless as cause-and-effect factual as going to the store to buy groceries.

After I pay for my groceries, I take them home. Factual and clear.

After I pay for my groceries, I would take them home. That's a strange incomplete thought, because it implies that for some reason I can't take the groceries home, and we are left wondering: why can't he take them home?

That's why (B) is wrong. Does this make sense? Please let me know if you have any further questions.

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Maria Bonaparte put up the ransom that the Nazis insisted on if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.

a)

b) if Freud were allowed

c) should Freud be allowed

d) if they will allow Freud

e) should allowance be made for Freud


What's wrong with b?


The OA not provided can anyone please provide the OA with OE.

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The OA not provided can anyone please provide the OA with OE.

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Dear Rango,
I'm happy to respond. The OA is (A), as indicated at the top. Here is a full explanation. First of all, the question stem again.

Maria Bonaparte put up the ransom that the Nazis insisted on if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.
(A) if Freud was to be allowed
This choice has no grammatical flaw. It is concise and perfectly correct. This is a promising choice.

(B) if Freud were allowed
(C) should Freud be allowed
Both of these are in the subjunctive, so they are hypothetical. Nothing about this historical event and situation was hypothetical. See
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... ive-tense/
In this situation, the Nazis said: give us the money, and Freud can leave. Very factual. The hypothetical language of these two choices is completely inappropriate, and it changes the meaning from the prompt. Both of these are incorrect.

(D) if they will allow Freud
We are talking about an event more than half a century in the past, so the future verb tense, "will allow", is completely wrong here.

(E) should allowance be made for Freud
If we ran a contest for the longest, most indirect, and most awkward way to rephrase the underlined portion, this choice might be the winner of that contest. There is absolutely no way this could be the correct answer.

The only possible answer is (A).

Does all this make sense?
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The OA not provided can anyone please provide the OA with OE.

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Dear Rango,
I'm happy to respond. The OA is (A), as indicated at the top. Here is a full explanation. First of all, the question stem again.

Maria Bonaparte put up the ransom that the Nazis insisted on if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.
(A) if Freud was to be allowed
This choice has no grammatical flaw. It is concise and perfectly correct. This is a promising choice.

(B) if Freud were allowed
(C) should Freud be allowed
Both of these are in the subjunctive, so they are hypothetical. Nothing about this historical event and situation was hypothetical. See
http://magoosh.com/gmat/2012/gmat-gramm ... ive-tense/
In this situation, the Nazis said: give us the money, and Freud can leave. Very factual. The hypothetical language of these two choices is completely inappropriate, and it changes the meaning from the prompt. Both of these are incorrect.

(D) if they will allow Freud
We are talking about an event more than half a century in the past, so the future verb tense, "will allow", is completely wrong here.

(E) should allowance be made for Freud
If we ran a contest for the longest, most indirect, and most awkward way to rephrase the underlined portion, this choice might be the winner of that contest. There is absolutely no way this could be the correct answer.

The only possible answer is (A).

Does all this make sense?
Mike :-)



Thanks mike; appreciated

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Wow was totally confused between A and B. Wonder what is the source of this question though because I have never seen the subjunctive being used in this manner on any official question.
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Wow was totally confused between A and B. Wonder what is the source of this question though because I have never seen the subjunctive being used in this manner on any official question.


I agree, really strange one..; The usage here is one that I have never saw... even tough, the explanations were good!
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Maria Bonaparte put up the ransom that the Nazis insisted on if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.

A. if Freud was to be allowed

B. if Freud were allowed...........I selected this one thinking it to be a subjunctive.

C. should Freud be allowed............should usage is wrong.

D. if they will allow Freud.............they refer to Nazis here and will allow future tense is incorrect here.

E. should allowance be made for Freud....................should usage is wrong in subjunctive and whole sentence construction is ambiguous.

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according to the subjunctive verb usage I chose B as an option. What did I do wrong ? can someone explain ?

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according to the subjunctive verb usage I chose B as an option. What did I do wrong ? can someone explain ?


Even I did the same mistake. Actually there is no need of subjunctive verb here.
B is useful in case if there is any hypothetical situation.

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Nazis insisted on that Maria Bonaparte pay the ransom if Freud was to be allowed to leave Vienna.

This was a clear condition. Pay the money and let Freud go.
There is no hypothetical situation where you can use subjunctive verb here.

I hope this helps. :)
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