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# Miserable diagnostic test scores. Where do i start gmat prep?

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21 Aug 2018, 08:16
Hello

Its been a month since i registered into egmat online course and started my gmat prep. I had taken a diagnostic full test and scored a 410. I took a manhattan diagnostic math test which gave a 85% as score. I took a Manhattan CAT 1 test (free test) and Scored as follows: Q30, V27 and IR =0. I have no clue where to start my preparations. my target score is 710-730. I shall take the exam in December 2018. What strategies should i employ to reach to my target score in three months? I am non engineering science background student. This is SOS. Please help.
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21 Aug 2018, 10:01
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Hello

Its been a month since i registered into egmat online course and started my gmat prep. I had taken a diagnostic full test and scored a 410. I took a manhattan diagnostic math test which gave a 85% as score. I took a Manhattan CAT 1 test (free test) and Scored as follows: Q30, V27 and IR =0. I have no clue where to start my preparations. my target score is 710-730. I shall take the exam in December 2018. What strategies should i employ to reach to my target score in three months? I am non engineering science background student. This is SOS. Please help.

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21 Aug 2018, 10:02
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Hello

Its been a month since i registered into egmat online course and started my gmat prep. I had taken a diagnostic full test and scored a 410. I took a manhattan diagnostic math test which gave a 85% as score. I took a Manhattan CAT 1 test (free test) and Scored as follows: Q30, V27 and IR =0. I have no clue where to start my preparations. my target score is 710-730. I shall take the exam in December 2018. What strategies should i employ to reach to my target score in three months? I am non engineering science background student. This is SOS. Please help.

Hello ,

.... yes the diag score is low........ but it gives you an idea about ur weakness..... And thus it is easier to work on them.
To start with I would definitely go through the post by bb :
https://gmatclub.com/forum/gmat-study-plan-how-to-start-your-gmat-prep-80727.html#p605856
Just to be sure of your weakness you can also try out a GMATPrep Test 1/2..... which are free

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21 Aug 2018, 10:11
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Hi Shulagna21,

The practice scores you've reported vary to a degree that it's not clear what your actual 'ability level' is right now. It's also not clear what content you have been studying for the last month, so I suggest that you study however you choose for the rest of this week, then take a new, FULL-LENGTH CAT - and take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss how best to proceed.

1) When are you planning to apply to Business School?
2) What Schools are you planning to apply to?
3) Going forward, how many hours do you think you can consistently study each week?

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21 Aug 2018, 10:24
EMPOWERgmatRichC

Thanks for your reply. I am subscribing to e-gmat online course and I have bought the OG 2018 guides (all three books).

My IR score was zero. The full length cat score is V27Q30.

I am planning to apply this year December. The latest I can take the test is by December 7th 2018. I am planning to apply to top 20 schools and my target score is 720+

I can devote up to 6 hours per day for studies. Can you guide me further with the given information?

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21 Aug 2018, 10:32
Hi Shulagna21,

With up to 3.5 months of potential study time, you could improve a great deal. To raise this CAT Score to a 720+ will take some serious work - and you'll have to make significant improvements to how you handle BOTH the Quant and Verbal sections. Thankfully, the GMAT is a consistent, predictable Exam, so you CAN train to score at a higher level. That having been said, studying 6 hours every day would probably be too much (I've never asked someone to study for 40+ hours a week, so I wouldn't expect you to). The next CAT Score will help to better define the accuracy of your first Score - and whether your current method of studying is help you to improve or not - so you should study as you choose for the next several days, then take that next CAT this weekend.

If you have any additional questions, then just let me know.

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21 Aug 2018, 23:49
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EMPOWERgmatRichC

Thanks for your reply. I am subscribing to e-gmat online course and I have bought the OG 2018 guides (all three books).

My IR score was zero. The full length cat score is V27Q30.

I am planning to apply this year December. The latest I can take the test is by December 7th 2018. I am planning to apply to top 20 schools and my target score is 720+

I can devote up to 6 hours per day for studies. Can you guide me further with the given information?

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Hey Shulagna21
the good news is three months is lots of time to prepare.
What you need now is a study plan.
Considering you have already learned the fundamental material but are looking for ways to improve, your plan needs to include:
- a focus on answer strategies: are you using ones which are efficient?
- an in-depth control of the material - are there rules and formulas that make solutions quicker?
- an examination of overall test strategy - what should your pacing be? should you skip questions intentionally?

you should also probably consider whether you want to take a course. If so, some thoughts on the different kinds out there:
- A classroom based GMAT Course
makes sense if you feel comfortable in a classroom setting, your budget is very high, you are self-motivated and don’t have big gaps in your knowledge that need special attention, and your schedule can accommodate a course that meets at a specific time every week. However, as every GMAT student knows, the real work happens back at home, outside the classroom, when you practice and try to figure out solutions by yourself.
- online courses allow us to choose our own time and place. However, many of these are videos of a power point presentation showing the course material followed by a bulk of practice questions.
- Live online courses are also an option. These have a similar experience to the old fashioned GMAT class except you watch the tutor through a screen. When taking an in-person or live-online course we should make sure that we will have enough face time.
- Private tutoring makes sense if we need a very high score and an individual study plan, and especially – if we have extra money to spare in order to get additional attention and feedback or to spend more time on certain areas. Putting cost aside, even the best private tutors only know what they see in the few questions that you’ve solved in front of them.
- Exampal (my company) has a different type of course, online computer assisted customised learning. This uses personalised machine learning to monitor thousands of students, and provides you with the approaches that proved most efficient for each given question.

Before I offer you any more personal advice, I'd appreciate the answers to a few questions:
1. Have you maintained and used an error log?
2. When you took your CATs, did you make sure to take them in the same time conditions as the real exam? (without pausing / splitting into parts)
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Its been a month since i registered into egmat online course and started my gmat prep. I had taken a diagnostic full test and scored a 410. I took a manhattan diagnostic math test which gave a 85% as score. I took a Manhattan CAT 1 test (free test) and Scored as follows: Q30, V27 and IR =0. I have no clue where to start my preparations. my target score is 710-730. I shall take the exam in December 2018. What strategies should i employ to reach to my target score in three months? I am non engineering science background student. This is SOS. Please help.

I would suggest to schedule the exam ONLY upon completion of study. Target date should be command/mastery over skills and NOT the other way round (a Date on which you will master all GMAT taking skills).
Please have a look at this:
https://blog.targettestprep.com/gmat-preparation-time/
https://blog.targettestprep.com/mindset ... t-success/
https://blog.targettestprep.com/improve-gmat-score/
https://blog.targettestprep.com/how-to- ... 0-on-gmat/

This has been keeping me on track so far...
Hope this helps to you as well.
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TheGraceful thank you for your kind words. All the best to you too. How did you keep yourself motivated and boost yourself when you were not making optimum progress

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TheGraceful thank you for your kind words. All the best to you too. How did you keep yourself motivated and boost yourself when you were not making optimum progress

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As for motivation there are plenty of Videos on YouTube and also many stories (debriefs) on this forum. PM me once again on Saturday, I will be more than happy to share.
My strategy is treat this like war,think that you don't have a second chance, and hence attack ONLY after you are thoroughly prepared. No matter how long it takes. Depending upon my completion of study, I will take Exam date. Depending on my exam and score, I will target my admissions.

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Its been a month since i registered into egmat online course and started my gmat prep. I had taken a diagnostic full test and scored a 410. I took a manhattan diagnostic math test which gave a 85% as score. I took a Manhattan CAT 1 test (free test) and Scored as follows: Q30, V27 and IR =0. I have no clue where to start my preparations. my target score is 710-730. I shall take the exam in December 2018. What strategies should i employ to reach to my target score in three months? I am non engineering science background student. This is SOS. Please help.

Yikes. Well, let's put together a plan:

Start off studying sort of "on-the-side" -- then once you commit to kicking things into high-gear -- then it's nothing but studying. Live, breath, and sleep the GMAT for full entire days. And then rest -- and then go at it again - then rest. Then review - and kickass on the exam.

http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... study-plan

We also recommend a "Divide and Conquer" approach first.

That is - focus on specific sections - like Sentence Correction. Dedicate an entire day - heck, dedicate multiple consecutive days dedicated ONLY to sentence correction.

For example: tomorrow is "Sentence Correction Day" - and don't move on until you feel you've made a significant improvement and have results to show.

If you operate with that kind of work ethic - and apply that process to RC, RC, PS, DS, etc. -- then you will have individually made good progress in each section.

Then from there, it's about mixing and matching different verbal and quant questions - just as you would see them on the actual test. So take practice tests to simulate this mental switch between different question types under time pressure.

For practice, we recommend the practice tests from mba.com as was from supplemental resources such as this one from GMAT Pill:
http://www.gmatpill.com/gmat-practice-t ... ctice-test

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I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. Certainly a 300+ point score improvement is a tall order; however, if you work hard and follow a thorough, linear study plan, you can improve your GMAT score.

For example, if you are learning about Number Properties, you should develop as much conceptual knowledge about Number Properties as possible. In other words, your goal will be to completely understand properties of factorials, perfect squares, quadratic patterns, LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, and remainders, to name a few concepts. After carefully reviewing the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions, practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills.

Sentence Correction is a bit of a different animal compared to Reading Comprehension and Critical Reasoning. There are three aspects to getting correct answers to GMAT Sentence Correction questions: what you know, such as grammar rules, what you see, such as violations of grammar rules and the logic of sentence structure, and what you do, such as carefully considering each answer choice in the context of the non-underlined portion of the sentence. To drive up your Sentence Correction score, you likely will have to work on all three of those aspects. Furthermore, the reason that your Sentence Correction performance has not improved is likely that you have not been working on all three of those aspects.

Regarding what you know, to be successful in Sentence Correction, first and foremost, you MUST know your grammar rules. Let's be clear, though: GMAT Sentence Correction is not just a test of knowledge of grammar rules. The reason for learning grammar rules is so that you can determine what sentences convey and whether sentences are well-constructed. In fact, in many cases, incorrect answers to Sentence Correction questions are grammatically flawless. Thus, often your task is to use your knowledge of grammar rules to determine which answer choice creates the most logical sentence meaning and structure. This determination of whether sentences are well-constructed and logical is the second aspect of finding correct answers to Sentence Correction questions, what you see. To develop this skill, you probably have to slow way down. You won't develop this skill by spending under two minutes per question. For a while, anyway, you have to spend time with each question, maybe even ten or fifteen minutes on one question sometimes, analyzing every answer choice until you see the details that you have to see in order to choose the correct answer.

As you go through the answer choices, consider the meaning conveyed by each version of the sentence. Does the meaning make sense? Even if you can tell what the version is SUPPOSED to convey, does the version really convey that meaning? Is there a verb to go with the subject? Do all pronouns in the sentence clearly refer to nouns in the sentence? By slowing way down and looking for these details, you learn to see what you have to see in order to clearly understand which answer to a Sentence Correction question is correct.

There is only one correct answer to any Sentence Correction question, there are clear reasons why that choice is correct and the others are not, and those reasons are not that the correct version simply "sounds right." In fact, the correct version often sounds a little off at first. That correct answers may sound a little off is not surprising. If the correct answer were always the one that sounded right, then most people most of the time would get Sentence Correction questions correct, without really knowing why the wrong answers were wrong and the correct answers were correct. So, you have to go beyond choosing what "sounds right" and learn to clearly see the logical reasons why one choice is better than all of the others.

As for the third aspect of getting Sentence Correction questions correct, what you do, the main thing you have to do is be very careful. You have to make sure that you are truly considering the structures of sentences and the meanings conveyed rather than allowing yourself to be tricked into choosing trap answers that sound right but don't convey meanings that make sense. You also have to make sure that you put some real energy into finding the correct answers. Finding the correct answer to a Sentence Correction question may take bouncing from choice to choice repeatedly until you start to see the differences between the choices that make all choices wrong except for one. Often, when you first look at the choices in a Sentence Correction question, only one or two seem obviously incorrect. It may take time for you to see what you have to see. Getting the right answers takes a certain work ethic. You have to be determined to see the differences and to figure out the precise reasons that one choice is correct.

To improve what you do when you answer Sentence Correction questions, seek to become aware of how you are going about answering them. For instance, are you being careful and looking for logic and details, or are you quickly eliminating choices that sound a little off and then choosing the best of the rest? If you choose an incorrect answer, consider what you did that resulted in your arriving at that answer and what you could do differently in order to arrive at correct answers more consistently. Furthermore, see how many questions you can get correct in a row as you practice. If you break your streak by missing one, consider what you could have done differently that would have extended your streak.

As with your Critical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension regimens, after learning a particular Sentence Correction topic, engage in focused practice with 30 questions or more that involve that topic. As your Sentence Correction skills improve, you’ll then want to practice with SC questions that test you on skills from multiple Sentence Correction topics.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new verbal and quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

You also may find my article about
how to score a 700+ on the GMAT helpful.

Feel free to reach out with any further questions.

Good luck!
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