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10 Jun 2018, 08:11
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rahul031092 wrote:

E is definitely wrong:

Consider the following:
A AND B are...
The negative of the above statement is:
A OR B are not...

A AND B are not... wrong - implies: A and B not together (but one of them may be)........wrong meaning.

OA has been changed to D (after rectifying the pronoun issue).

Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. -- Incorrect -- subject-verb agreement issue -- the vice president was

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy. -- Incorrect -- subject-verb agreement issue -- the vice president was

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy. -- illogical comparison -- corporation and competitor's environmental policy

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. -- what is the antecedent for Pronoun their here?

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. -- Correct -- Some posts have stated that meaning in Option E changes. I do understand that option D talks about the President and Vice-president individually whereas option E talks about the President and Vice-President together , but in my opinion the change is subtle and not illogical and Pronoun their is a bigger issue in option D

AjiteshArun , GMATNinja , mikemcgarry , egmat , sayantanc2k, RonPurewal , DmitryFarber , MagooshExpert , ccooley , daagh ,mcelroytutoring, other experts -- please enlighten
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D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. -- what is the antecedent for Pronoun their here?
mcelroytutoring, other experts -- please enlighten

Hi Skywalker18,

Well, first of all this is a Kap. question, not an official GMAT question, so I am not going to spend much time on it.

However, it's OK to write "their" later in the sentence in Choice D, because at that point we are referring to both the president and the vice president of the corporation at the same time (although we are referring them individually at the beginning of the sentence, which is why we must use singular verbs there).

Pro tip: you can remember that the word "neither" is singular by the phrase "neither one," because "one" is the very definition of singular! This trick also works with other singular words commonly mistaken as plural nouns

Neither = neither one = singular
Either = either one = singular
Each = each one = singular
Any = any one = singular
None = not one = singular

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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

When we say we are concerned with, we mean to say that we are dealing with. For example, we say that
The Travel Dept is concerned with my flight booking

An ICU in a hospital is concerned with very sick people.
Here, we mean that the travel dept. deals with ticket booking and the ICU deals with sick people.
We do not mean that the travel dept. is very worried by ticket booking or that the ICU is literally tormented by the very sick condition.

However, when we say we are 'concerned about', we mean that we are 'worried by'.
I am concerned about my son's performance

The President is concerned about the neo-migrants into his country.

We may perhaps see the difference between both the idioms. In the light of this perception, I think the idiom 'concerned with' in D does not make much sense. In addition, whenever nor/or is used, the effective subject turns out to be the noun that is just before the verb and as the deciding subject is the vice president, we must settle for the singular 'his' rather than 'their'. On the other hand, E has no sub-verb or sub-pronoun number agreement issues and fittingly uses an appropriate idiom.
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11 Jun 2018, 04:25
Confusion between the option D and E.
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25 Jun 2018, 01:29
Hi Experts, the current explanations present for this questions are ambiguous.

Could you please let us know your view regarding how to eliminate option "D" here and why to choose option "E" here.

I selected "E" btw.
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Hi Experts, the current explanations present for this questions are ambiguous.

Could you please let us know your view regarding how to eliminate option "D" here and why to choose option "E" here.

I selected "E" btw.

Actually, daagh has given very clear explanation above.

Option (D) uses "Neither nor" so subject is the noun closer to the verb. The subject (vice president) is singular and hence the use of singular verb "was". This also means that pronouns referring to the subject must be singular and hence the use of "their" is incorrect. We need to use "her/his".

(D) also has the idiomatic issue of "concerned with" which is incorrect. When you worry about something, you are "concerned about" it.

Option (E) clearly has a plural subject "Both the president and the vice president" and hence needs plural verb "were" and plural pronoun "their". Hence all is in order here.
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