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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

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Shouldn't D be the correct answer? My thoughts are highlighted in the reply on the thread.


E is definitely wrong:

Consider the following:
A AND B are...
The negative of the above statement is:
A OR B are not...

A AND B are not... wrong - implies: A and B not together (but one of them may be)........wrong meaning.

OA has been changed to D (after rectifying the pronoun issue).
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IMO it should be D because:
1. SV agreement: Neither X nor Y . Here verb is defined by Y which is singular i.e. Vice President.
2. Concerned with is the correct idiom.
3. Between X and Y parallelism is maintained.

However, I am not sure why E is the OA? Isn't Concerned about a wrong idiom?

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Shouldn't D be the correct answer? My thoughts are highlighted in the reply on the thread.
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Shouldn't D be the correct answer? My thoughts are highlighted in the reply on the thread.


You are correct with your analysis for D, but in SC we "eliminate", rather than "select".
In D - "Neither the president nor the vice president" is actually singular, so "their" is incorrect.
While in E - "Both.." makes it plural, hence "their" works well.
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Better way to proceed is to see the splits - "was/were", and then decide what is needed for the following pronoun "their"?
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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.
C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.
D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.


Neither X nor Y + singular verb. Hence A, B are eliminated.

In C, the meaning is changed, so C is eliminated.

Now, D & E are left.
(1) be (un)concerned about/with sth: (un)interested in sth.
(2) be (un)concerned about sth: (not) worried about sth.

Now, I think the usage in (2) is more suitable for the sentence. I dont think that "their" here need to go with plural verb. Hencen E is the correct answer.
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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.
C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.
D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

Although the Neither X nor Y and the y's number is used is the thing we look here but thats just step 1.

after this we are left with C and D. but both of these choices use 'their' to refer to the president and the vice president. so they must be plural entity, and that can only be done with choice E where the usage of both makes the entity plural.

E is the correct answer.
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Well, Kaplan's answer was E. Their explanation is that 'concerned with' is a wrong idiom in D because it means something more like 'involved in' and not 'worried about'. (Question is from workshop video)
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E is wrong-
Neither P nor VP was concerned-
Both P and VP were unconcerned : together they (P + VP) were unconcerned ,
but P might be concerned singly. likewise VP.

in D replace 'their' with 'his'. D is right.
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rahul031092 wrote:
Shouldn't D be the correct answer? My thoughts are highlighted in the reply on the thread.


E is definitely wrong:

Consider the following:
A AND B are...
The negative of the above statement is:
A OR B are not...

A AND B are not... wrong - implies: A and B not together (but one of them may be)........wrong meaning.

OA has been changed to D (after rectifying the pronoun issue).



Hi sayantanc2k,
Thanks but can you explain little more on why E is wrong. The given explanation did not clear my doubt.

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sayantanc2k wrote:
rahul031092 wrote:
Shouldn't D be the correct answer? My thoughts are highlighted in the reply on the thread.


E is definitely wrong:

Consider the following:
A AND B are...
The negative of the above statement is:
A OR B are not...

A AND B are not... wrong - implies: A and B not together (but one of them may be)........wrong meaning.

OA has been changed to D (after rectifying the pronoun issue).



Hi sayantanc2k,
Thanks but can you explain little more on why E is wrong. The given explanation did not clear my doubt.

Thanks.


The point has been further explained by shekyonline here:
https://gmatclub.com/forum/neither-the- ... l#p1826707

Moreover remembering this logical operator might help:
NOT (A AND B) = (NOT A) OR (NOT B).
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This is deep!
I chose E.

"A and B are NOT agreeing to the deal " has two meanings I guess
a) They both together are not agreeing to the deal.
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b)either A or B are not agreeing to the deal.
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"concerned with" = involved with
"concerned by/about" = worried about, troubled about.

Given the intended meaning of the statement, the correct idiomatic usage should be "concerned about". Hence E. OA seems debatable.
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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.



A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A and B are out because of plural verb "were".

C is out for wrong comparison.

From D and E, both are grammatically correct, but I will go with D as it keeps the original sense of question.

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kivalo wrote:
Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.
C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.
D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.


Neither X nor Y + singular verb. Hence A, B are eliminated.

In C, the meaning is changed, so C is eliminated.

Now, D & E are left.
(1) be (un)concerned about/with sth: (un)interested in sth.
(2) be (un)concerned about sth: (not) worried about sth.

Now, I think the usage in (2) is more suitable for the sentence. I dont think that "their" here need to go with plural verb. Hencen E is the correct answer.
Yes you are right. Also, the use of concerned "with" is idiomatically incorrect.

Thus, E is best.

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[quote="kivalo"]Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.
C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.
D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.
E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.


Neither X nor Y + singular verb. Hence A, B are eliminated.

In C, the meaning is changed, so C is eliminated.

Now, D & E are left.
(1) be (un)concerned about/with sth: (un)interested in sth.
(2) be (un)concerned about sth: (not) worried about sth.

Now, I think the usage in (2) is more suitable for the sentence. I dont think that "their" here need to go with plural verb. Hencen E is the correct answer.
Yes you are right. Also, the use of concerned "with" is idiomatically incorrect.

Thus, E is best.

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Concerned with is Idiomatically Correct in GMAT, please go through this link of ECONOMIST

https://gmat.economist.com/gmat-advice/ ... -know-gmat[/quote]Yes concerned with is idiomatically correct but correct answers also depend on the context.

Concerned about - worried about
Concerned with - related to or involved with.

Meaning significantly changes.

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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

Meaning of the sentence: The President and vice President were not concerned about the negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

Errors in the original sentence: Singular subject( the vice President ) should have singular verb.

Rule for Neither X nor Y - Verb should agree to the closest noun(here, it's Y)

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. Subject-verb agreement error

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy. Subject-verb agreement error

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.
Comparison error. Here, the comparison is between own corporation and the competitor's eenvironmental policy

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. Correct
Singular subject (the vice president) agrees with the singular verb(was)


E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's. Meaning change
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1. first "Neither + noun1+ nor +noun2+ verb" :
> noun1 <=> the president
> noun2 <=> the vice president
> verb should follow the closer noun = noun2 <=> the vice president
>> should be was/were: A, B & E out
2. next, comparison should be between same things i.e. policy vs policy
> "C" compares corporation vs policy i.e. "C" is out
> D is the answer
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Dear Sir, Can you please explain why E is wrong.
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Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

A) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

B) Neither the president nor the vice president were concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's policy.

C) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation and their main competitor's environmental policy.

D) Neither the president nor the vice president was concerned with the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.

E) Both the president and the vice president were unconcerned about the pervasive negative comparison between their own corporation's environmental policy and their main competitor's.



please any expert explain all options in detail. why the correct answer is right.


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dear Sir, Can you please explain why E is wrong.


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