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01 Mar 2017, 00:03
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Hi mikemcgarry,
Topic: Exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers ... orrection/
I understood from the post--
if some modifier(modifying the same noun) is placed in between a noun and noun-modifier, that means it can not be placed any where else in the sentence.
However, consider the below sentence. As per the post, this is the correct sentence
Last week, the senator resigned who made the disparaging remark about older women.
The above sentence can be written
Last week, the senator who made the disparaging remark about older women resigned
Then why are we violating the touch rule in this case?
Topic: Exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers ... orrection/
I understood from the post--
if some modifier(modifying the same noun) is placed in between a noun and noun-modifier, that means it can not be placed any where else in the sentence.
However, consider the below sentence. As per the post, this is the correct sentence
Last week, the senator resigned who made the disparaging remark about older women.
The above sentence can be written
Last week, the senator who made the disparaging remark about older women resigned
Then why are we violating the touch rule in this case?
01 Mar 2017, 17:22
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Hi mikemcgarry,
Topic: Exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers ... orrection/
I understood from the post--
if some modifier(modifying the same noun) is placed in between a noun and noun-modifier, that means it can not be placed any where else in the sentence.
However, consider the below sentence. As per the post, this is the correct sentence
Last week, the senator resigned who made the disparaging remark about older women.
The above sentence can be written
Last week, the senator who made the disparaging remark about older women resigned
Then why are we violating the touch rule in this case?
Dear AR15J, Topic: Exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule
https://magoosh.com/gmat/2013/modifiers ... orrection/
I understood from the post--
if some modifier(modifying the same noun) is placed in between a noun and noun-modifier, that means it can not be placed any where else in the sentence.
However, consider the below sentence. As per the post, this is the correct sentence
Last week, the senator resigned who made the disparaging remark about older women.
The above sentence can be written
Last week, the senator who made the disparaging remark about older women resigned
Then why are we violating the touch rule in this case?
I'm happy to respond.
First of all, my friend, in order to alert me that you wanted to address me, it's not enough simply to type the text of my user name. You need to use the "mention this user" button, which will send me an email, alerting me to the fact that someone was asking for me.
My friend, with all due respect, I am going to say that you didn't read carefully enough. In that blog article, in the section "Exceptions to the Modifier Touch Rule," I first talked about what I called the BIG exception, vital noun modifier coming between a noun and other modifiers. Then I said, "Other examples of exceptions to the Touch Rule involve a short set of words, such as an example phrase or a short intransitive verb phrase, that are correctly placed between a noun and its modifier." This has nothing at all to do with the first exception discussed, about multiple noun modifiers; this is a new and different exception to the Touch Rule, and the sentence you cite was an example of this later idea.
Does all this make sense?
Mike
01 Mar 2017, 21:47
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First of all, Thanks to mikemcgarry for such a wonderful blog post. The post is really helpful in listing all possible noun modifier errors that can be observed on GMAT.
Hi AR15J, Let me try to solve this confusion here.
The post initially says that noun modifiers should follow "Modifier touch rule". But, there are certain exceptions to it. The first statement you wrote is an example of such exception. In my view both the examples you wrote are correct.
I just have one question for mikemcgarry
As per the blog post, below sentence is wrong because "which" can not modify the clause.
Unlike most other elemental metals, gold resists the corrosive action of air and water, which enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
and this error is resolved by adding a term which modifies the collective idea presented by the earlier clause.(In this case I understand this is an ABSTRACT NOUN, please correct if my guess is wrong.)
- Unlike most other elemental metals, gold resists the corrosive action of air and water, a low reactivity that enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
Can we modify the sentence as below?
Unlike most other elemental metals, gold has resistance to the corrosive action of air and water that[the resistance] enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
Hi AR15J, Let me try to solve this confusion here.
The post initially says that noun modifiers should follow "Modifier touch rule". But, there are certain exceptions to it. The first statement you wrote is an example of such exception. In my view both the examples you wrote are correct.
I just have one question for mikemcgarry
As per the blog post, below sentence is wrong because "which" can not modify the clause.
Unlike most other elemental metals, gold resists the corrosive action of air and water, which enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
and this error is resolved by adding a term which modifies the collective idea presented by the earlier clause.(In this case I understand this is an ABSTRACT NOUN, please correct if my guess is wrong.)
- Unlike most other elemental metals, gold resists the corrosive action of air and water, a low reactivity that enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
Can we modify the sentence as below?
Unlike most other elemental metals, gold has resistance to the corrosive action of air and water that[the resistance] enables it to maintain its characteristic luster unabated over time.
