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People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control. Therefore, they should not be held morally responsible for any inevitable consequences of such things, either. Determining whether adults have any control over the treatment they are receiving can be difficult. Hence in some cases it can be difficult to know whether adults bear any moral responsibility for the way they are treated. Everyone, however, sometimes acts in ways that are an inevitable consequence of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control, and so are not morally responsible for, the treatment they receive.

Anyone making the claims above would be logically committed to which one of the following further claims?

(A) An infant should never be held morally responsible for an action that infant has performed.

(B) There are certain commonly performed actions for which no one performing those actions should ever be held morally responsible.

(C) Adults who claim that they have no control over the treatment they are receiving should often be held at least partially responsible for being so treated.

(D) If a given action is within a certain person’s control that person should be held morally.

(E) No adult should be held morally responsible for every action he or she performs.
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New post 31 Jul 2010, 05:07
This reasoning is specious, I wonder if I ever use it when I was a kid.
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P1 : People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control.
P2 : It is difficult to determine whether adults have any control over the way they are treated
P3 : It is also difficult to know whether adults bear any moral responsibility for the treatment they get

So the author just threw the word "responsible" out of the window LOL

Result is the most absurd statement. The conclusion - People cannot be morally responsible for inevitable consequences of their actions.

Anyone making the above claim is not going to say anything about kids/infants, responsibility, morals etc. He is going to go even further and make a statement E. E is correct.
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I picked D too. E does not make sense.
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People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control. Therefore, they should not be held morally responsible for any inevitable consequences of such things, either. Determining whether adults have any control over the treatment they are receiving can be difficult. Hence in some cases it can be difficult to know whether adults bear any moral responsibility for the way they are treated. Everyone, however, sometimes acts in ways that are an inevitable consequently of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control, and so are not morally responsible for the treatment they receive.

Anyone making the claims above would be logically committed to which one of the following further claims.

A. An infant should never be held morally responsible for an action that infant has performed.

B. There are certain commonly performed actions for which no one performing those actions should ever be held morally responsible.

C. Adults who claim that they have no control over the treatment they are receiving should often be held at least partially responsible for being so treated.

D. If a given action is within a certain person's control that person should be held morally.

E. No adult should be held morally responsible for every action he or she performs.
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Can't believe it I got it correct after reading the stimulus twice .... :lol: :lol:

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People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control. Therefore, they should not be held morally responsible for any inevitable consequences of such things, either. Determining whether adults have any control over the treatment they are receiving can be difficult. Hence in some cases it can be difficult to know whether adults bear any moral responsibility for the way they are treated. Everyone, however, sometimes acts in ways that are an inevitable consequently of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control, and so are not morally responsible for the treatment they receive.


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People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control.


Premises / Reason for the authors claim is -
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Everyone, however, sometimes acts in ways that are an inevitable consequently of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control, and so are not morally responsible for the treatment they receive.


Treatment received as an infant ( No control over the situation) ==leads to==> Treatment received as an adult.

Thus the author mentions that adults too have no control/moral responsibility for their treatment.

Hence among the given options only (E) fits in perfectly.
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IMO D. None of the other choices follow logically or are too narrow, especially the ones with strong wording: never, always...


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I'm sorry but there's little chance E is the answer. The premise has "sometimes" and answer choice E has "no adult should be held responsible for every action". That doesn't logically follow.


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'E' is the right answer.

If someone is saying that if a person has killed someone, he should go to the jail. This doesn't mean that if a person has not killed someone, he shouldn't go to the jail. He might have done some other crime that require him to be in prison.

'D' is exactly saying the latter statement. We know that 'People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control'. But it doesn't necessarily means that people can be morally responsible for things that are under his/her control. That's why 'D' is not the answer.

Option 'E' mentions that ' No adult should be held morally responsible for EVERY action he or she performs' (because there could be some actions that are not in his/her control, in which case he/she should not be held morally responsible)

Hope I am able to explain the confusion :)
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'E' is the right answer.

If someone is saying that if a person has killed someone, he should go to the jail. This doesn't mean that if a person has not killed someone, he shouldn't go to the jail. He might have done some other crime that require him to be in prison.

'D' is exactly saying the latter statement. We know that 'People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control'. But it doesn't necessarily means that people can be morally responsible for things that are under his/her control. That's why 'D' is not the answer.

Option 'E' mentions that ' No adult should be held morally responsible for EVERY action he or she performs' (because there could be some actions that are not in his/her control, in which case he/she should not be held morally responsible)

Hope I am able to explain the confusion :)


Ok, I understand that E is indeed a better answer but your reasoning is flawed. The thing is, logical opposites are fair game in CR questions, and they are often used in reading comprehension passages, too. You ought to check your assumptions. Anyhow, Thanks for taking the time to reply. +1 kudo
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People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control. Therefore, they should not be held morally responsible for any inevitable consequences of such things, either. Determining whether adults have any control over the treatment they are receiving can be difficult. Hence in some cases it can be difficult to know whether adults bear any moral responsibility for the way they are treated. Everyone, however, sometimes acts in ways that are an inevitable consequently of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control, and so are not morally responsible for the treatment they receive.

Anyone making the claims above would be logically committed to which one of the following further claims.

A. An infant should never be held morally responsible for an action that infant has performed.

B. There are certain commonly performed actions for which no one performing those actions should ever be held morally responsible.

C. Adults who claim that they have no control over the treatment they are receiving should often be held at least partially responsible for being so treated.

D. If a given action is within a certain person's control that person should be held morally.

E. No adult should be held morally responsible for every action he or she performs.



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(E) One claim in the passage is that everyone will sometimes act in ways that are consequential to the treatment they received while an infant. Since the treatment was beyond that person’s control, so are the consequential acts. Therefore, all adults will sometimes do things (relating to when they were infants) for which they should not be held morally responsible. If everyone can disavow themselves of responsibility of atleast one action, then there is nobody who can be held responsible for all of his actions.

(A) Infants may perform actions that are not the consequence of treatment received. In those cases, the argument is silent as to responsibility.

(B) Similar to (A), this choice discusses the responsibility for actions that aren’t necessarily out of the individual’s control.

(C) The argument doesn’t necessarily support this point, stating that in some cases, determining adult control over treatment received is
difficult. Since nothing guides us as to when individuals who claim to lack control must take responsibility, this choice can’t be fully resolved.

(D) The argument is limited to discussing responsibility for actions beyond the person’s control. Nothing is said with respect to actions within control.
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Picked E. The key words are every action

Reasoning: People cannot be held morally accountable for actions that are not under their control. Everyone sometimes act out of the treatment they received as a child. So everyone should not always be held morally accountable for their actions.
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Original Explanation:

(E) One claim in the passage is that everyone will sometimes act in ways that are consequential to the treatment they received while an infant. Since the treatment was beyond that person’s control, so are the consequential acts. Therefore, all adults will sometimes do things (relating to when they were infants) for which they should not be held morally responsible. If everyone can disavow themselves of responsibility of atleast one action, then there is nobody who can be held responsible for all of his actions.

(A) Infants may perform actions that are not the consequence of treatment received. In those cases, the argument is silent as to responsibility.

(B) Similar to (A), this choice discusses the responsibility for actions that aren’t necessarily out of the individual’s control.

(C) The argument doesn’t necessarily support this point, stating that in some cases, determining adult control over treatment received is
difficult. Since nothing guides us as to when individuals who claim to lack control must take responsibility, this choice can’t be fully resolved.

(D) The argument is limited to discussing responsibility for actions beyond the person’s control. Nothing is said with respect to actions within control.


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Vyshak wrote:
Original Explanation:

(E) One claim in the passage is that everyone will sometimes act in ways that are consequential to the treatment they received while an infant. Since the treatment was beyond that person’s control, so are the consequential acts. Therefore, all adults will sometimes do things (relating to when they were infants) for which they should not be held morally responsible. If everyone can disavow themselves of responsibility of atleast one action, then there is nobody who can be held responsible for all of his actions.

(A) Infants may perform actions that are not the consequence of treatment received. In those cases, the argument is silent as to responsibility.

(B) Similar to (A), this choice discusses the responsibility for actions that aren’t necessarily out of the individual’s control.

(C) The argument doesn’t necessarily support this point, stating that in some cases, determining adult control over treatment received is
difficult. Since nothing guides us as to when individuals who claim to lack control must take responsibility, this choice can’t be fully resolved.

(D) The argument is limited to discussing responsibility for actions beyond the person’s control. Nothing is said with respect to actions within control.


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Vyshak wrote:
Original Explanation:

(E) One claim in the passage is that everyone will sometimes act in ways that are consequential to the treatment they received while an infant. Since the treatment was beyond that person’s control, so are the consequential acts. Therefore, all adults will sometimes do things (relating to when they were infants) for which they should not be held morally responsible. If everyone can disavow themselves of responsibility of atleast one action, then there is nobody who can be held responsible for all of his actions.

(A) Infants may perform actions that are not the consequence of treatment received. In those cases, the argument is silent as to responsibility.

(B) Similar to (A), this choice discusses the responsibility for actions that aren’t necessarily out of the individual’s control.

(C) The argument doesn’t necessarily support this point, stating that in some cases, determining adult control over treatment received is
difficult. Since nothing guides us as to when individuals who claim to lack control must take responsibility, this choice can’t be fully resolved.

(D) The argument is limited to discussing responsibility for actions beyond the person’s control. Nothing is said with respect to actions within control.


One doubt here, in E you are assuming that statement is talking about actions performed as an infant. But statement says "No adult should be held morally responsible for every action he or she performs". So it is not talking about actions performed in past but happening in present time.
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Original Explanation:

(E) One claim in the passage is that everyone will sometimes act in ways that are consequential to the treatment they received while an infant. Since the treatment was beyond that person’s control, so are the consequential acts. Therefore, all adults will sometimes do things (relating to when they were infants) for which they should not be held morally responsible. If everyone can disavow themselves of responsibility of atleast one action, then there is nobody who can be held responsible for all of his actions.

(A) Infants may perform actions that are not the consequence of treatment received. In those cases, the argument is silent as to responsibility.

(B) Similar to (A), this choice discusses the responsibility for actions that aren’t necessarily out of the individual’s control.

(C) The argument doesn’t necessarily support this point, stating that in some cases, determining adult control over treatment received is
difficult. Since nothing guides us as to when individuals who claim to lack control must take responsibility, this choice can’t be fully resolved.

(D) The argument is limited to discussing responsibility for actions beyond the person’s control. Nothing is said with respect to actions within control.


One doubt here, in E you are assuming that statement is talking about actions performed as an infant. But statement says "No adult should be held morally responsible for every action he or she performs". So it is not talking about actions performed in past but happening in present time.


The present tense "performs" is alright. The statement E is about the action of the adults in the present, not when they were infants.

The last line of the passage indicates that adults SOMETIMES acts in ways that are an inevitable consequently of treatment received as an infant and infants clearly cannot control. For those actions (performed in the present), the adults CANNOT be held responsible.

Since SOMETIMES the adults cannot be held responsible for their actions (performed in present but because of the treatment they received in the past), they should not be held morally responsible for EVERY ACTION they perform (option E).
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Please explain why E is better than D.
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The premises in the argument is spread all over. It is difficult to connect the dots. Please explain the argument
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~Mor_Res - ~control
~Mor_Res - Conseq
(Everyone)Infant -> May or may not be Mor_Res -> No control

The keywords, Therefore, Hence, However, sometimes are very confusing

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'E' is the right answer.

If someone is saying that if a person has killed someone, he should go to the jail. This doesn't mean that if a person has not killed someone, he shouldn't go to the jail. He might have done some other crime that require him to be in prison.

'D' is exactly saying the latter statement. We know that 'People cannot be morally responsible for things over which they have no control'. But it doesn't necessarily means that people can be morally responsible for things that are under his/her control. That's why 'D' is not the answer.

Option 'E' mentions that ' No adult should be held morally responsible for EVERY action he or she performs' (because there could be some actions that are not in his/her control, in which case he/she should not be held morally responsible)

Hope I am able to explain the confusion :)


Ok, I understand that E is indeed a better answer but your reasoning is flawed. The thing is, logical opposites are fair game in CR questions, and they are often used in reading comprehension passages, too. You ought to check your assumptions. Anyhow, Thanks for taking the time to reply. +1 kudo


Hi I don't see flaw in Divyadisha 's reasoning, as she is pointing out the mistaken negation(if A -> B, then if ~A -> May or may not be B) error that choice D has.
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