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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   03 May 2009, 14:39
rca215 wrote:
You guys might have an interest in this: https://www.economist.com/business/busin ... d=13567183

It follows various Kellogg students on their job searches. It's a bit high-level, so I don't know if it will have practical benefit. Either way it makes for interesting reading.

What a positive bit of experiences. One student ended up with their dream job, and four try and rationalize the job they were lucky to get. I know it's tough for career switchers, but it almost seems like the media tries to make things seem particularly dire. All doom and gloom. From talking with River, Steel, and other current students, it seems bad, but not as bad as the media would have you believe.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   03 May 2009, 16:37
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Any current students have thoughts on the two classes below as electives (for 1Ys in the summer)? Do you think the probability/statistics/regression content will be valuable for later MORS/Management & Strategy courses?



Managerial Decision Analysis (DECS-438-A)
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This course presents the standard approach taken in all Kellogg courses in dealing with risk and uncertainty. The principal focus is on the language of probability, random variables, decision trees and commonly encountered probability distributions. A number of applications are explored, with most analysis performed using spreadsheets. Prerequisite: One-Year-student status.

Statistical Decision Analysis (DECS-439-B)
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The study of statistics at Kellogg has two complementary goals: The first is to master the two languages of statistics: How to measure how much an estimate can be trusted and how to measure the weight of evidence with respect to a claim that has been made. The objective is to become knowledgeable consumers of statistical reports, effective managers of those doing the statistical "dirty work" and confident critics of statistics done badly. The other goal is to become facile at performing regression analysis, a tool for understanding the types of relationships all managers must deal with. A spreadsheet-based statistical analysis package is provided to all students. Prerequisite: One-Year-student status.


If you've had lots of stats or probability before, I'd say skip it. If not - it might be helpful. McKeon is fantastic (I never had him obviously - except for a miniclass - but everyone confirms it).

If you can skip it, I'd say take a more value add course - or just take the .5 credit in the area you're weak in (i.e. either probability or stats). But, take that with a grain of salt coming from someone who took 3 stats classes and 2 probability classes in undergrad.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   03 May 2009, 17:03
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Looks like I'm taking Turbo Finance over the summer. :shock:

Ever taken finance before? I'm debating whether to take regular vs. turbo but I have no finance background. It'll be interesting to see what your experience is like.


I stirred up this debate in the MMM breakout session during DAK and the general consensus amongst the current students was to go for Turbo Finance if one can handle it as you get the freedom to choose an elective instead. Some quant/math/engg background obviously helps.

So unless someone convinces me otherwise I'm currently leaning on taking Turbo in the winter.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 08:04
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Because I have nothing to do at work, and know at least one other admit was talking about this, I've downloaded the list of KWEST trips into a handy Excel sheet so you can filter and sort by the different attributes. Holding control and clicking on a trip name brings you to the description of that trip on the website.

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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 08:07
thanks jerz!!!!
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 08:26
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Because I have nothing to do at work, and know at least one other admit was talking about this, I've downloaded the list of KWEST trips into a handy Excel sheet so you can filter and sort by the different attributes. Holding control and clicking on a trip name brings you to the description of that trip on the website.

Enjoy.

Why, oh why, did you do this?!?! Do you have a vendetta against my productivity?

+1 and much appreciated
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 09:51
Jerz wrote:
Because I have nothing to do at work, and know at least one other admit was talking about this, I've downloaded the list of KWEST trips into a handy Excel sheet so you can filter and sort by the different attributes. Holding control and clicking on a trip name brings you to the description of that trip on the website.

Enjoy.


Looks like the KWEST trips are at the same time (and at many of the same locations) as Random Walks. Would be interesting to run into a KWEST group during my random walk :lol:
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 11:43
There is certainly a chance. I heard that happened at one trip. I know I saw Chicago folks at the airport on the way back.

sonibubu wrote:

Looks like the KWEST trips are at the same time (and at many of the same locations) as Random Walks. Would be interesting to run into a KWEST group during my random walk :lol:
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   04 May 2009, 12:41
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There is certainly a chance. I heard that happened at one trip. I know I saw Chicago folks at the airport on the way back.

sonibubu wrote:

Looks like the KWEST trips are at the same time (and at many of the same locations) as Random Walks. Would be interesting to run into a KWEST group during my random walk :lol:

i ran into riverripper at the airport in ecuador
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   05 May 2009, 18:08
I'm making a list of courses I'd like to take, and it's tempting to consider taking 5 courses / term after (not during) the first term. That's another 5 courses over the 2 years! How often do students do this? A dumb idea? Or a great way to maximize what you get out of the experience?
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   05 May 2009, 18:12
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I'm making a list of courses I'd like to take, and it's tempting to consider taking 5 courses / term after (not during) the first term. That's another 5 courses over the 2 years! How often do students do this? A dumb idea? Or a great way to maximize what you get out of the experience?


It could be good? I guess my worry would be how much that extra course would interfere with either recruiting or time I'd otherwise spend on ECs...
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   05 May 2009, 18:21
isa wrote:
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I'm making a list of courses I'd like to take, and it's tempting to consider taking 5 courses / term after (not during) the first term. That's another 5 courses over the 2 years! How often do students do this? A dumb idea? Or a great way to maximize what you get out of the experience?


It could be good? I guess my worry would be how much that extra course would interfere with either recruiting or time I'd otherwise spend on ECs...

I'm thinking of taking 5 classes during spring year 1 and 5 for winter and spring year 2, so I get to take 3 extra classes. Hopefully :( I'll have an intership during winter quarter of 1st year and a job by fall of 2nd year so I'll have 3 quarters where I don't have to worry about recruiting. Of course, a lot still remains to be seen!!!
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   05 May 2009, 18:46
5 courses are doable depending on what you are taking...some classes have very high work loads so you wouldnt want to take a couple of those and then three other courses. I thought about doing it this semester but withdrew after sitting through a couple classes of one course and wasnt too excited with it. For me its more about interest than work load honestly, why spend 10 weeks with a class if you arent going to get some value and really find it interesting. You actually have one semester where you only need to take 3 classes and still will graduate. I think we take more courses than at a lot of schools already (23.5) and I guess if you want to go nuts you could do another half dozen. I have heard of people graduating early in the past by taking 5 classes. Might have been a good selling point when the economy was booming and a banker could potentially pull down six figures over the course of those several months.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 06:36
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I just met a Senior VP (and chief regulatory officer) of a major device company, mentioned to her that I was going Kellogg in the fall. She couldn't stop raving about their healthcare program and specifically, their Medical Innovations course. (that's the one where you work with people from the med school, engineering school on new products) She highly recommends it for anyone wanting to work in devices, esp in strategy or business development. Apparently, it's one of the questions they ask during on-campus interviews for most of the non-marketing roles.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 06:47
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I just met a Senior VP (and chief regulatory officer) of a major device company, mentioned to her that I was going Kellogg in the fall. She couldn't stop raving about their healthcare program and specifically, their Medical Innovations course. (that's the one where you work with people from the med school, engineering school on new products) She highly recommends it for anyone wanting to work in devices, esp in strategy or business development. Apparently, it's one of the questions they ask during on-campus interviews for most of the non-marketing roles.

Awesome, I've added it to my list of classes to take.

Thanks to everyone for the feedback about whether taking 5 classes / term is crazy. Doesn't sound as nuts as I thought it might be. Given that we only have 2 years, I want to maximize what I get out of this, and I don't want to regret not having taken courses I've always wanted to take. It's nice that we can take a 5th course without paying extra tuition.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 09:05
If I'm going a non-traditional recruiting route of non banking, consutlting, GM, would 5 courses be more manageable than for the average student? I know I'll still have to put in a lot of work for a self-directed job search, but I figure it won't be as time consuming as all the formal recruiting events for banking and consulting. Or am I wrong on this?

Also, I recently locked in to Kellogg, and passed on Wharton and Chicago. Location played some sort of role in most of the reasons I chose it over Wharton, and curriculum played a big role in putting it ahead of Booth for me. Tough passing up other good schools, but at the end of the day its totally subjective which schools make the most sense for each person.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 09:46
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If I'm going a non-traditional recruiting route of non banking, consutlting, GM, would 5 courses be more manageable than for the average student? I know I'll still have to put in a lot of work for a self-directed job search, but I figure it won't be as time consuming as all the formal recruiting events for banking and consulting. Or am I wrong on this?

My guess is that your path would make 5 courses more manageable, but I defer to current students on this.

chifootball wrote:
Also, I recently locked in to Kellogg, and passed on Wharton and Chicago. Location played some sort of role in most of the reasons I chose it over Wharton, and curriculum played a big role in putting it ahead of Booth for me. Tough passing up other good schools, but at the end of the day its totally subjective which schools make the most sense for each person.

Congrats on deciding on Kellogg! Looking forward to being classmates this fall.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 10:17
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If I'm going a non-traditional recruiting route of non banking, consutlting, GM, would 5 courses be more manageable than for the average student? I know I'll still have to put in a lot of work for a self-directed job search, but I figure it won't be as time consuming as all the formal recruiting events for banking and consulting. Or am I wrong on this?

Also, I recently locked in to Kellogg, and passed on Wharton and Chicago. Location played some sort of role in most of the reasons I chose it over Wharton, and curriculum played a big role in putting it ahead of Booth for me. Tough passing up other good schools, but at the end of the day its totally subjective which schools make the most sense for each person.


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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 10:44
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If I'm going a non-traditional recruiting route of non banking, consutlting, GM, would 5 courses be more manageable than for the average student? I know I'll still have to put in a lot of work for a self-directed job search, but I figure it won't be as time consuming as all the formal recruiting events for banking and consulting. Or am I wrong on this?

Also, I recently locked in to Kellogg, and passed on Wharton and Chicago. Location played some sort of role in most of the reasons I chose it over Wharton, and curriculum played a big role in putting it ahead of Booth for me. Tough passing up other good schools, but at the end of the day its totally subjective which schools make the most sense for each person.

Depends what you mean by non-traditional. My advice is take 4 classes during the winter then decide if you want 5 classes during the spring.
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Re: Admitted to Kellogg Class of 2011 Thread [#permalink] New post   06 May 2009, 13:33
chifootball wrote:
Also, I recently locked in to Kellogg, and passed on Wharton and Chicago. Location played some sort of role in most of the reasons I chose it over Wharton, and curriculum played a big role in putting it ahead of Booth for me. Tough passing up other good schools, but at the end of the day its totally subjective which schools make the most sense for each person.


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