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12 Jul 2019, 15:33
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Hey Everyone,
Been following these forums for a while now as I've been prepping for my GMAT in 2 weeks - I know a lot of this would also come down to my GMAT grade but to be conservative let's say my GMAT is 690.
Background
Work experience: 6 years - 4 years in Oil & Gas (Field Engineer/Technical Specialist/Research & Development/Project Engineer (Current)) and 2 years in Mechanical Design (AutoCAD work)
Extra curriculars: Tutor and mentor high school kids with a company called Tutor Doctor (2013-2015); Toastmasters (2015); BC Childrens Hospital Volunteer (2017)
Undergrad school/major: Mechanical Engineering
Other education/coursework: See note about about education prior to Engineering - will this affect me when they take into account my first 3 years in Sciences? if so, my GPA drops quite significantly to about a 3.0-3.1
Race/nationality: Asian
Sex: Male
Stats
GMAT Score (include breakdown!): HYPOTHETICAL 690 (taking GMAT on Aug 1st)
Undergrad GPA: 3.7 GPA at top 3 Engineering program in Canada - UBC) ; before that though, I was in Sciences for 3 years (2.5 GPA prior to engineering transfer
MBA Info
Goal of MBA: Career Switch - Marketing/Product Management in Tech or Consulting
Target schools: Foster, Marshall, Fuqua (reach?), Haas (reach), Sloan (reach), Tuck (Reach), Tepper, LBS (reach), IESE
Based on my lack of extra circulars, is it a definite reach for me at schools such as Haas, Fuqua, Sloan, Tuck, and LBS? Any feedback would be great - good or bad!
Been following these forums for a while now as I've been prepping for my GMAT in 2 weeks - I know a lot of this would also come down to my GMAT grade but to be conservative let's say my GMAT is 690.
Background
Work experience: 6 years - 4 years in Oil & Gas (Field Engineer/Technical Specialist/Research & Development/Project Engineer (Current)) and 2 years in Mechanical Design (AutoCAD work)
Extra curriculars: Tutor and mentor high school kids with a company called Tutor Doctor (2013-2015); Toastmasters (2015); BC Childrens Hospital Volunteer (2017)
Undergrad school/major: Mechanical Engineering
Other education/coursework: See note about about education prior to Engineering - will this affect me when they take into account my first 3 years in Sciences? if so, my GPA drops quite significantly to about a 3.0-3.1
Race/nationality: Asian
Sex: Male
Stats
GMAT Score (include breakdown!): HYPOTHETICAL 690 (taking GMAT on Aug 1st)
Undergrad GPA: 3.7 GPA at top 3 Engineering program in Canada - UBC) ; before that though, I was in Sciences for 3 years (2.5 GPA prior to engineering transfer
MBA Info
Goal of MBA: Career Switch - Marketing/Product Management in Tech or Consulting
Target schools: Foster, Marshall, Fuqua (reach?), Haas (reach), Sloan (reach), Tuck (Reach), Tepper, LBS (reach), IESE
Based on my lack of extra circulars, is it a definite reach for me at schools such as Haas, Fuqua, Sloan, Tuck, and LBS? Any feedback would be great - good or bad!
18 Jul 2019, 23:42
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mke88
Hi mke88
A few points to make here:
- A move to tech product management is going to be very challenging, and B-schools will feel that too. A move to marketing may be possible, but more within your industry than outside (so, say, consumer marketing will be very tough to get into)
- With a 690 as an international applicant, Haas, Fuqua, Tuck, and Sloan will be challenging. LBS - chance with a good app.
- Your ECA activities are not an issue.
- Would strongly suggest that you go for a higher GMAT (720+) even if that means applying in Round 2.
- You might also find this article relevant.
Hope this helps. Feel free to come back with more queries as needed or to get in touch directly.
04 Aug 2019, 13:44
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Hey mke88
To answer some of your questions - schools will consider all years of your education in calculating a GPA, so those first three years won't be doing you any favors. They do look for your trend in grades, so that certainly helps. You'll need to explain how/why your grades changed so dramatically. This can actually be a great opportunity to discuss what got you fired up for Engineering.
Here's the harsh reality - while schools often (one might say, half the time!) admit people with a GMAT below the median, many of those applicants come from the humanities or are in non-quantitative industries. Which is to say - you'll be competing against engineers who often have big ole GMAT scores in their application. Many admits with a sub-average GMAT are superstars in their community or have shown tremendous leadership experience. Applying with a sub-average GPA can be offset by a solid GMAT, but a 690 doesn't do the trick for the schools you have mentioned - unless there is remarkable stuff in the rest of the application.
Based on your post, it looks like much of your experience has been as an individual contributor. Do you have substantive leadership experience whether in your career or in your community?
I believe all of the schools you have listed are a stretch. Foster is getting much more competitive, Marshall has a new dean from Wharton (known for loving high GPAs/GMATs), Haas and Sloan are super competitive anyway, and Duke and Tuck are pretty focused on leadership experiences. If your GMAT comes back around a 690 and you choose to apply, I might suggest schools like Indiana (Kelley) or Emory (Goizueta). Now if the GMAT comes back at 720+, that's a whole different story!
Please reach out if you have more questions, or if you'd like to talk about how we can help you execute an application that captures your value!
To answer some of your questions - schools will consider all years of your education in calculating a GPA, so those first three years won't be doing you any favors. They do look for your trend in grades, so that certainly helps. You'll need to explain how/why your grades changed so dramatically. This can actually be a great opportunity to discuss what got you fired up for Engineering.
Here's the harsh reality - while schools often (one might say, half the time!) admit people with a GMAT below the median, many of those applicants come from the humanities or are in non-quantitative industries. Which is to say - you'll be competing against engineers who often have big ole GMAT scores in their application. Many admits with a sub-average GMAT are superstars in their community or have shown tremendous leadership experience. Applying with a sub-average GPA can be offset by a solid GMAT, but a 690 doesn't do the trick for the schools you have mentioned - unless there is remarkable stuff in the rest of the application.
Based on your post, it looks like much of your experience has been as an individual contributor. Do you have substantive leadership experience whether in your career or in your community?
I believe all of the schools you have listed are a stretch. Foster is getting much more competitive, Marshall has a new dean from Wharton (known for loving high GPAs/GMATs), Haas and Sloan are super competitive anyway, and Duke and Tuck are pretty focused on leadership experiences. If your GMAT comes back around a 690 and you choose to apply, I might suggest schools like Indiana (Kelley) or Emory (Goizueta). Now if the GMAT comes back at 720+, that's a whole different story!
Please reach out if you have more questions, or if you'd like to talk about how we can help you execute an application that captures your value!
