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Hi - my question on the conclusion

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the number of Verdlanders (receiving the special program information) probably did not increase significantly.


What does this mean exactly ?

Let say, total population = 300
- Lets say 100 people had RDS radios and 200 people did not have RDS radios.

If (2/200) go over to the house of some one with a RDS radio -- then these (2/200) will be able to 'receive the special programming', no ?

The phrase 'receiving the special program information' is confusing
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Hi - if i understand the argument

  • RDS technology within radio is A NECESSARY requirement to recieve special programming.
  • Number of radio stations have increased
  • Number of radios with RDS technology have stayed the same.
    ==========================================
  • Hence, people who could recieve the special programming (they dont have to be weekly listeners to the program, just the option to listen in to the special programming if they chose to) have stayed the same

    Could you confirm if blue in the bracket is your understanding as well ?

Is this not an assumption being made ?
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  • Lets say Avi doesnt own a RDS radio whereas JD does own a RDS radio.
  • Avi CANNOT walk over to JD's house and listen to JD's RDS radio
  • If Avi could do that, Avi is an example of "a person receiving the special program information" ?


What about these assumptions ?

(i) People who do have RDS radios, the RDS technology feauture has not failed in any of the RDS radios.
(ii) The RDS technology feauture CANNOT BE DOWNLOADED onto a laptop - This way, folks with laptops cannot "Recieve the special program information"
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Hi - if i understand the argument

  • RDS technology within radio is A NECESSARY requirement to recieve special programming.
  • Number of radio stations have increased
  • Number of radios with RDS technology have stayed the same.
    ==========================================
  • Hence, people who could recieve the special programming (they dont have to be weekly listeners to the program, just the option to listen in to the special programming if they chose to) have stayed the same

    Could you confirm if blue in the bracket is your understanding as well ?
Confirmed, jabhatta2.
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Is this not an assumption being made ?
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  • Lets say Avi doesnt own a RDS radio whereas JD does own a RDS radio.
  • Avi CANNOT walk over to JD's house and listen to JD's RDS radio
  • If Avi could do that, Avi is an example of "a person receiving the special program information" ?
No, the argument is about the change from 1994 to 1996. If Avi walks over to JD's house in 1996, he would have also done that in 1994. Perhaps this would be a good answer choice, along the lines of your suggestion:
Verdlanders who didn't have access to an RDS equipped radio in 1994 didn't spend the following year developing networks of friends with RDS equipped radios so that they could go over to those friends' houses and receive the special program information.
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What about these assumptions ?

(i) People who do have RDS radios, the RDS technology feauture has not failed in any of the RDS radios.
Why is that a required assumption? So what if the RDS failed in some of the RDS equipped radios? That would strengthen the argument, not destroy it.
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(ii) The RDS technology feauture CANNOT BE DOWNLOADED onto a laptop - This way, folks with laptops cannot "Recieve the special program information"
No, this goes against the premise:
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Radio Stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.
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Radio Stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive. Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600. However, since the number of RDS equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994, the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.

(B) In 1996 Verdlanders who lived within the listening area of an RDS station already had a radio equipped to receive RDS.

(C) Equipping a radio station with RDS technology does not decrease the station's listening area.

(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

(E) The RDS radio stations in Verdland in 1996 did not all offer the same type of programming.

Consider there are 600 verdlanders & each verdlander possess 1 RDS radio

in 1994 only 250 people can receive special program information

but in 1996 as the number of stations increased to 600, all the 600 people can listen to special program (considering previously installed stations couldn't reach them)

Hence Option A
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- how do you eliminate (d) ?

(i) Some experts are focusing on the subtle difference between

**special program** (pink font) vs **any programming** (blue font)

(ii) Some experts are saying -- (D) is an inference and not an assumption

Not sure

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Radio Stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive. Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600. However, since the number of RDS equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994, the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

I personally believe (D) is a NECESSARY assumption.

Why ? Lets say Mr X did not have a RDS radio. in 1994.

In 1995 specifically - Mr X went to his friend's house [Mr Y]. Mr Y has a RDS equipped radio.

In 1995 - Mr X and Mr Y both listen to the special program.

Now, the number of people receiving the special program has gone up in 1995 (by 1) - even though the number of RDS equipped radios has stayed the same, given Mr X never BOUGHT a RDS equipped radio.

D clearly closes this gap

Some experts (post below) have said that my scenario is not a genuine gap because Mr X must have been then going to Mr Y's house then, in 1994.. I personally think my scenario listed above is very realistic. -- its quite possible Mr X ONLY started doing this in 1995 only.

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Expert 1 on the gap closed by (D)

avigutman

No, the argument is about the change from 1994 to 1996. If Avi walks over to JD's house in 1996, he would have also done that in 1994.

Expert 2 on the gap

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hi Karishma,
I am confused between A and D. I chose D because i thought about the case that people who dont have the RDS-equipped radios still can have chance to listen to programs brocasted by RDS radio stations (maybe through other people's RDS equipped radios), the situation which weaken the conclusion that "the number of Verlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly. "
Please kindly explain where i made mistake. Many thanks

The question asks for an assumption. (i.e. what is necessarily true to make the conclusion true?)
The gist of the argument is that since no. of radios is about the same, number of people receiving the RDS programming is also the same.

Option D - In 1996 Verlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

- Even if people without RDS equipped radios could access RDS programming (say on neighbor's RDS radio) in 1996, they could have done the same in 1994 as well. They could have received RDS programs from existing radio stations (using neighbors radio). The number of people receiving the programming then may not have changed. So the argument could still hold even if option (D) is false. It is not necessary for it to be true for the argument to be true. Then option (D) is not an assumption.
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- how do you eliminate (d) ?

(i) Some experts are focusing on the subtle difference between

**special program** (pink font) vs **any programming** (blue font)

(ii) Some experts are saying -- (D) is an inference and not an assumption

Not sure

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Radio Stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive. Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600. However, since the number of RDS equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994, the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

I personally believe (D) is a NECESSARY assumption.

Why ? Lets say Mr X did not have a RDS radio. in 1994.

In 1995 specifically - Mr X went to his friend's house [Mr Y]. Mr Y has a RDS equipped radio.

In 1995 - Mr X and Mr Y both listen to the special program.

Now, the number of people receiving the special program has gone up in 1995, even though the number of RDS equipped radios has stayed the same, given Mr X never BOUGHT a RDS equipped radio.

I don't see how is this gap addressed personally.

Some experts have said that this gap is addressed because Mr X must have been then doing this, even in 1994 then. But, realistically - its quite possible Mr X started doing this in 1995 only.

I am struggling to see how your story about Mr. X and Mr. Y relates to D.

You are right to think about the possibility that "There are MORE PEOPLE listening to each RDS radio than there were before, so even though the number of radios has not changed, the number of PEOPLE getting RDS program information has increased!"

But the answer choice that would correspond to this thought would be something like, "The average number of people regularly listening to radios that have RDS technology has not increased," or, "Neighbors are not more commonly visiting their neighbors house to listen to their RDS radios in 1996 than were in 1994."

Answer D just says "People who don't have RDS radios cannot receive RDS broadcasting." I *think* what you might be thinking is: "But maybe those people who without the RDS radios can visit their friends who do have RDS radios," and maybe they can, but the answer should mention something like that explicitly.

A related thought: those people without RDS could have *always* been visiting their friends, in 1994 and in 1996. So if D is negated, and "People without RDS radios *could* receive *some* broadcasts from RDS stations after 1994," they would have *always been included in the number of people who receive RDS broadcast.* We have no reason to think the number of such people increased or decreased.

In 1994 and in 1996 we have about the same number of radios that can receive RDS. The people who could hear that braodcast would be:

The owners of such radios + anyone else the owners have invited to listen

Maybe that second group is 0 (and then such people had NO ACCESS to RDS broadcast--what D suggests) and maybe that group was ten million (and then such people had SOME ACCESS to RDS broadcast--the negation of D). Neither ruins the argument that "The number of people listening to RDS broadcasts has not increased significantly."
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how do you eliminate (d) ?

Apply the NEGATION test.
When the correct answer is negated, the conclusion will be invalidated.
Note:
If the negation for an answer choice seems to weaken a PREMISE, eliminate the answer choice.
For the purposes of CR, a premise is a FACT.
A fact cannot be weakened.

PREMISE:
Radio Stations with RDS broadcast information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.

D, negated:
Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could receive some programming from the RDS radio stations.
This negation seems to weaken the PREMISE that ONLY RADIOS WITH AN RDS FEATURE can receive information from RDS stations.
Since the negation of D seems to weaken a premise, eliminate D.
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how do you eliminate (d) ?

Apply the NEGATION test.
When the correct answer is negated, the conclusion will be invalidated.
Note:
If the negation for an answer choice seems to weaken a PREMISE, eliminate the answer choice.
For the purposes of CR, a premise is a FACT.
A fact cannot be weakened.

PREMISE:
Radio Stations with RDS broadcast information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.

D, negated:
Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could receive some programming from the RDS radio stations.
This negation seems to weaken the PREMISE that ONLY RADIOS WITH AN RDS FEATURE can receive information from RDS stations.
Since the negation of D seems to weaken a premise, eliminate D.

Hi gmatguru - Thank you for your response. Not sure I agree with the statement in the yellow highlight above.

If you pay attention to the subject in Option (d) – it is Verlander’s (i.e. People)

Had the subject in (D) been instead -- Non-RDS radios -- THEN – Yes, the negation of (D) would then go against the premise.

If you read the premise VERY CLOSELY, the premise is talking about what can “RDS Radios” do.

The premise is NOT necessarily saying “People (who have NON RDS radios) cannot access special programming in 1994 / 1995 / 1996”

For example - even with the Premise being true -- Mr X (who owns a NON-RDS radio) can still be accessing special programming in 1994 or 1995" -- this scenario is plausible, keeping with the premise.

There is small subtlety there
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Thank you so much for your time @ReedArnoldMPREP" --

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"I *think* what you might be thinking is: "But maybe those people who without the RDS radios can visit their friends who do have RDS radios,"

the above scenario was exactly what I was thinking.

ReedArnoldMPREP
"In 1994 and in 1996 we have about the same number of radios that can receive RDS. The people who could hear that braodcast would be:

The owners of such radios + anyone else the owners have invited to listen"


I agree with the above red equation. Maybe the second group had 0 people in 1994 or 10 million in 1994. We don't know.

If say 10 million in 1994, that 10 million number is because of the 250 Radio stations.

The absolute key is to make sure that 10 million number doesnt increase because of the additional 350 (not 250) radio stations in 1995 and 1996.

ReedArnoldMPREP

"A related thought: those people without RDS could have *always* been visiting their friends, in 1994 and in 1996. So if D is negated, and "People without RDS radios *could* receive *some* broadcasts from RDS stations after 1994," they would have *always been included in the number of people who receive RDS broadcast.*"


I don’t agree with the red bit specifically.

(D) use the a specific time-frame : “After 1994”

If Mr X was sharing with Mr Y in 1994 itself – (D) is not touching upon this timeframe.

(D) is specifically saying – 10 million in 1994 is okay but No NEWS CASES of folks sharing in 1995 /1996 is seen

At-least that was my interpretation of (D)
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Thank you so much for your time.

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I *think* what you might be thinking is: "But maybe those people who without the RDS radios can visit their friends who do have RDS radios,"

the above scenario was exactly what I was thinking.

ReedArnoldMPREP
"In 1994 and in 1996 we have about the same number of radios that can receive RDS. The people who could hear that braodcast would be:

The owners of such radios + anyone else the owners have invited to listen"


I agree with the above red equation. Maybe the second group had 0 people in 1994 or 10 million in 1994. We don't know.

If say 10 million in 1994, that 10 million number is because of the 250 Radio stations.

The absolute key is to make sure that 10 million number doesnt increase because of the additional 350 (not 250) radio stations in 1995 and 1996.

ReedArnoldMPREP

"A related thought: those people without RDS could have *always* been visiting their friends, in 1994 and in 1996. So if D is negated, and "People without RDS radios *could* receive *some* broadcasts from RDS stations after 1994," they would have *always been included in the number of people who receive RDS broadcast.*"


I don’t agree with the red bit specifically.

(D) use the a specific time-frame : “After 1994”

If Mr X was sharing with Mr Y in 1994 itself – (D) is not touching upon this timeframe.

(D) is specifically saying – 10 million in 1994 is okay but No NEWS CASES of folks sharing in 1995 /1996 is seen

At-least that was my interpretation of (D)

Well, the '1994' is about the new radio stations...

With:

Quote:
(D) is specifically saying – 10 million in 1994 is okay but No NEWS CASES of folks sharing in 1995 /1996 is seen

**You're** bringing in the "New."

D says: In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

If that is negated:

"In 1996 Verdlanders without RDS radios COULD receive SOME programming from RDS stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994."

This DOES NOT MEAN those same people WERE NOT able to receive the broadcasts from the original 250 stations in 1994! That is, with this negation, we have no reason to think these RDS-Less people who somehow get access to broadcasts from the new 350 stations are DIFFERENT FROM the original bunch of RDS-Less people who somehow got access to broadcasts from the original 250 stations.

In order for an answer to do what you're looking for D to do, you need something like:

"In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS and who did not receive broadcasts from RDS stations by some other way in 1994 could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994."

Now... I also think there's something about the verb RECEIVE broadcasts vs. "HEAR" broadcasts that we could quibble about, but that's mostly a stylistic thing (I just don't think the GMAT would use the verb "receive broadcast" to include people who go next door to listen to the broadcast).

But mostly, I think if D included a specification that *there was no increase* in RDS-less people listening to broadcasts, your case would be stronger.

If we negate this version of D:

Quote:
"In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS and who did not receive broadcasts from RDS stations by some other way in 1994 could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994."

We'd get "In 1996, Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS and who did not receive broadcasts from RDS stations by some other way in 1994 COULD receive SOME programming from RDS stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994."

This would much more ruin the argument than D currently does.

The thing is... You're kind of looking to make "D" do what "A" does explicitly. Just... Pick A, for doing the thing.
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how do you eliminate (d) ?

Apply the NEGATION test.
When the correct answer is negated, the conclusion will be invalidated.
Note:
If the negation for an answer choice seems to weaken a PREMISE, eliminate the answer choice.
For the purposes of CR, a premise is a FACT.
A fact cannot be weakened.

PREMISE:
Radio Stations with RDS broadcast information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive.

D, negated:
Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could receive some programming from the RDS radio stations.
This negation seems to weaken the PREMISE that ONLY RADIOS WITH AN RDS FEATURE can receive information from RDS stations.
Since the negation of D seems to weaken a premise, eliminate D.

Hi gmatguru - Thank you for your response. Not sure I agree with the statement in the yellow highlight above.

If you pay attention to the subject in Option (d) – it is Verlander’s (i.e. People)

Had the subject in (D) been instead -- Non-RDS radios -- THEN – Yes, the negation of (D) would then go against the premise.

If you read the premise VERY CLOSELY, the premise is talking about what can “RDS Radios” do.

The premise is NOT necessarily saying “People (who have NON RDS radios) cannot access special programming in 1994 / 1995 / 1996”

For example - even with the Premise being true -- Mr X (who owns a NON-RDS radio) can still be accessing special programming in 1994 or 1995" -- this scenario is plausible, keeping with the premise.

There is small subtlety there

When I type "people receive cable" into Google, virtually every result refers to the same statistic:
The number of people who receive cable television in their HOMES.
The usage of "receive" conveys this meaning -- that the signal is received at home.
D, negated:
Verdlanders who did not own RDS radios could receive some programming from RDS radio stations.
Here, the usage of receive implies that an RDS signal can sometimes be received at a person's home, even if the homeowner does not own an RDS radio.
While a homeowner could not own but lease an RDS radio -- unlikely, but not impossible -- in that case the radio should receive ALL of the programming.
Since only SOME of the programming is received, the implication is that an RDS radio is not present when a portion of the special programming is received.
This implication contradicts the premise that an RDS radio is required to receive the special programming.
Since a premise cannot be contradicted, eliminate D.
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Radio Stations with radio data system (RDS) technology broadcast special program information that only radios with an RDS feature can receive. - Fact
Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600. - Fact
However, since the number of RDS equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994 (Premise), the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly. (Conclusion)

Let's look at the conclusion in such a way the number did not increase significantly BECAUSE the number of radios was the same. Suppose there were 2 million people with RDS radios, but since the number of Radio stations was less, only 2000 people were covered out of 2 million. Now, with the increase in radio stations, all 2 million can be reached - this is a drastic increase from 2000 to 2 million people receiving program information. In such cases, the conclusion will shatter. So, we have to shield the conclusion by ensuring none or few (few means almost none) of these 2 million people are now covered by the increased number of stations for the conclusion to be true.

Which of the following is an assumption on which the argument depends?

Option elimination -

(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations. In line with our pre-thinking.

(B) In 1996 most Verdlanders who lived within the listening area of an RDS station already had a radio equipped to receive RDS - If most had a radio in 1996 and the argument says that this number hasn't changed since 1994, this strengthens the conclusion. If we negate it. Not most had radios, but the conclusion still holds. That is not our assumption.

(C) Equipping a radio station with RDS technology does not decrease the station's listening area. - What will happen if we equip the radio station with RDS technology is not out of scope.

(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994. - People who didn't own the radios with RDS are irrelevant to the argument and out of scope.

(E) The RDS radio stations in Verdland in 1996 did not all offer the same type of programming. - Type of programming is out of scope.
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The argument states that the number of people in Verdland receiving special program information from RDS radio stations did not increase significantly between 1994 and 1996, despite the increase in the number of RDS radio stations. This conclusion is based on the premise that the number of RDS-equipped radios remained roughly the same during this period.

To support this conclusion, the argument relies on the assumption that the expansion in the number of RDS stations did not result in more people having access to RDS broadcasts. This would mean that the new stations were not reaching new audiences who had RDS-equipped radios.

Let's evaluate each answer choice to see which one supports this assumption:

(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.

- This statement supports the assumption by suggesting that the new RDS stations were not reaching new audiences with RDS-equipped radios. Therefore, the number of people receiving the special program information did not increase significantly.

(B) In 1996 most Verdlanders who lived within the listening area of an RDS station already had a radio equipped to receive RDS.

- This statement does not support the assumption. If most Verdlanders in the listening area already had RDS radios, the number of people receiving the special information might have increased as the number of stations increased.

(C) Equipping a radio station with RDS technology does not decrease the station's listening area.

- This statement is irrelevant to the argument because it does not address the number of people with RDS-equipped radios.

(D) In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

- This statement is true but does not support the assumption that the new stations were not reaching new audiences with RDS-equipped radios.

(E) The RDS radio stations in Verdland in 1996 did not all offer the same type of programming.

- This statement is irrelevant because it does not address the number of people with RDS-equipped radios.

The correct answer is:

(A) Few if any of the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994 broadcast to people with RDS-equipped radios living in areas not previously reached by RDS stations.

This assumption supports the argument by indicating that the increase in the number of RDS stations did not result in more people receiving the special program information because the new stations did not reach new audiences with RDS-equipped radios.
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Sharing my thought process, hope it helps someone:


To determine which assumption the argument depends on, we first need to understand the structure of the argument:

  1. Premise: Between 1994 and 1996, the number of RDS radio stations in Verdland increased from 250 to 600.
  2. Premise: The number of RDS-equipped radios in Verdland was about the same in 1996 as in 1994.
  3. Conclusion: Therefore, the number of Verdlanders receiving the special program information probably did not increase significantly.

The argument hinges on the idea that despite the increase in RDS stations, the number of people receiving RDS content didn't increase significantly because the number of RDS-equipped radios remained the same. An implicit assumption here is that the new RDS stations didn't reach new RDS-radio-equipped listeners who weren't already served by existing stations

Option (A): It states that the new RDS stations did not broadcast to new areas with RDS-radio-equipped listeners. This directly supports the argument's assumption that the increase in stations didn't expand the audience receiving RDS content. Therefore this is our assumption.


Option D: In 1996 Verdlanders who did not own radios equipped to receive RDS could not receive any programming from the RDS radio stations that began broadcasting in Verdland after 1994.

It Implies that those without RDS radios couldn't receive any programming from new RDS stations, which is not pertinent since the argument focuses on those with RDS radios...

Why Option D is Not an Assumption the Argument Depends On:
  • Focus of the Argument: The argument is concerned with the number of people receiving special program information via RDS, which requires an RDS-equipped radio.
  • Irrelevance to Non-RDS Listeners: Whether people without RDS radios could receive any programming from new RDS stations is not directly relevant to the argument. The special program information is accessible only through RDS-equipped radios.
  • No Impact on Conclusion: If Verdlanders without RDS radios could receive programming (but not the special RDS information), this doesn't affect the argument about the number of people receiving the special program information
  • Negated Statement: In 1996, Verdlanders who did not own RDS radios could receive programming from the new RDS stations
  • Effect on Argument: Even if non-RDS radio owners could receive some programming, they still couldn't access the special RDS information. Thus, the argument's conclusion remains unaffected
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