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Stem certified MBA vs higher rank non-stem certified mba? 23 Apr 2019, 05:25
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From the perspective of an international Student who wants to stay working in the United states which one would be a best option?

Everybody knows that MBA are a huge investment for most, and staying for some time in the US is sometimes the only way to get a ROI. Now there are certain MBA which are stem certified (Simon) or have stem certified majors (Fuqua).
Without the stem certification international students can only work up to 12 months, which in case you do a 12 week summer internship, leaves you with only 9 months on work post mba. You can then apply for a H1b visa, but this is a lottery system, so you may or you may not end up being granted a Visa.

In case you study a stem certified program, you can extend the OPT period for a total of 36 months, with allows you to work almost 3 years post MBA without a visa. And moreover, it allows you to apply for the H1b visa 3 times, multiplying the possibilities of your name being chosen in the lottery.

Right know I am preparing my gmat, once I have my results I will know more or less which range of schools I can target. But when the decision comes, what would be a better option?


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Stem certified MBA vs higher rank non-stem certified mba? 29 Apr 2019, 23:29
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Hi manpaslop this is a great breakdown of OPT for MBA vs. STEM! Can you please elaborate on what you mean by this school vs. that school?
It might also help for you to mention the program for each. Following everything but the school options and what you mean by that.

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Hello,


From the perspective of an international Student who wants to stay working in the United states which one would be a best option?

Everybody knows that MBA are a huge investment for most, and staying for some time in the US is sometimes the only way to get a ROI. Now there are certain MBA which are stem certified (Simon) or have stem certified majors (Fuqua).
Without the stem certification international students can only work up to 12 months, which in case you do a 12 week summer internship, leaves you with only 9 months on work post mba. You can then apply for a H1b visa, but this is a lottery system, so you may or you may not end up being granted a Visa.

In case you study a stem certified program, you can extend the OPT period for a total of 36 months, with allows you to work almost 3 years post MBA without a visa. And moreover, it allows you to apply for the H1b visa 3 times, multiplying the possibilities of your name being chosen in the lottery.

Right know I am preparing my gmat, once I have my results I will know more or less which range of schools I can target. But when the decision comes, what would be a better option?


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Wharton/Harvard/booth/columbia vs Fuqua
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Stem certified MBA vs higher rank non-stem certified mba? 30 Apr 2019, 04:20
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Hello Prepcoach,

I am asking if for international student make more sense (in terms of ROI) to study an MBA with STEM certification or an MBA without STEM certification with higher rank or reputation.

For example, Top 5 MBA (without STEM certification) vs Top 20 MBA (with STEM certification)

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Hi manpaslop this is a great breakdown of OPT for MBA vs. STEM! Can you please elaborate on what you mean by this school vs. that school?
It might also help for you to mention the program for each. Following everything but the school options and what you mean by that.

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Hello,


From the perspective of an international Student who wants to stay working in the United states which one would be a best option?

Everybody knows that MBA are a huge investment for most, and staying for some time in the US is sometimes the only way to get a ROI. Now there are certain MBA which are stem certified (Simon) or have stem certified majors (Fuqua).
Without the stem certification international students can only work up to 12 months, which in case you do a 12 week summer internship, leaves you with only 9 months on work post mba. You can then apply for a H1b visa, but this is a lottery system, so you may or you may not end up being granted a Visa.

In case you study a stem certified program, you can extend the OPT period for a total of 36 months, with allows you to work almost 3 years post MBA without a visa. And moreover, it allows you to apply for the H1b visa 3 times, multiplying the possibilities of your name being chosen in the lottery.

Right know I am preparing my gmat, once I have my results I will know more or less which range of schools I can target. But when the decision comes, what would be a better option?


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Wharton/Harvard/booth/columbia vs Fuqua
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Stem certified MBA vs higher rank non-stem certified mba? 04 May 2019, 10:35
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If you want to stay in the US then a stem course would be the way forward.
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Welcome to GMAT Club manpaslop!

It really depends on how you are feeling. From what I have seen, most have been choosing higher ranked MBA programs and playing it risky.

Obviously if you are choosing between two top 20 or top 30 programs and one has STEM, it is better. However, I believe the reason most folks who have a choice between a Top 30 and a Top 20 program for example, choose the Top 20 or Top 15 is low unemployment (they are hoping it lasts for a while), extra cost of STEM, extra time that it takes to get and disrupts the employment cycle (e.g. depending on how the program is structured and if you need to extend your graduation date, you may miss all on-campus recruiting), also on-campus recruiting and higher-ranked brand assists a lot better with internship and job search (which usually results into a higher starting salary and better employment options), better education and value of the brand as well as better alum network, bragging rights of Top 20 or Top 10, and on and on..... finally, just good old gambling on the H1B lottery.

You can visit the https://gmatclub.com/forum/admitted-whi ... hoose-192/ Forum to see some of the STEM vs. No STEM choices people have made.

P.S. some schools allow to get an additional degree that allows to be a STEM qualified - I believe Ross has something like that (it is not a STEM MBA but there is a masters you can tuck on for an extra year and $50K)