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# Suggestion on last leg of the GMAT jouney

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01 Sep 2018, 11:15
Hi Dreamers and Experts,

I started my GMAT preparation journey around 2 months back. With my first mock (Kaplan) scoring a mere 490. After reading many inspiring posts here, I buckled up and studied honestly over the past 2 months from various sources. I plan to write exam by October 1st week. That's 1 month from today.

Now I have written mocks on Manhattan, GMAT club tests , Veritas , Kaplan all giving me almost the exact same scores 650-680 . Q47-48 V33-35.

My next question is how to improve further? I know probability is one section I always crash and I plan to work on that for Quant(any other source than GMAT club?). I am slow at SC and I hope the further practice will help my cause. But what next really ? How to improve to Q50 and V40 ? Are there some techniques that will help me achieve that score ? What should be my routine ? Even the I get an urge to keep trting mocks, I feel that's not going to help fully in improving. I have many mocks left still and that's not a problem. I have saved GMAT prep mocks for the last.

Thanks a lot in advance to all the kind should how would take time to reply to me.

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02 Sep 2018, 00:20
Hi Dreamers and Experts,

I started my GMAT preparation journey around 2 months back. With my first mock (Kaplan) scoring a mere 490. After reading many inspiring posts here, I buckled up and studied honestly over the past 2 months from various sources. I plan to write exam by October 1st week. That's 1 month from today.

Now I have written mocks on Manhattan, GMAT club tests , Veritas , Kaplan all giving me almost the exact same scores 650-680 . Q47-48 V33-35.

My next question is how to improve further? I know probability is one section I always crash and I plan to work on that for Quant(any other source than GMAT club?). I am slow at SC and I hope the further practice will help my cause. But what next really ? How to improve to Q50 and V40 ? Are there some techniques that will help me achieve that score ? What should be my routine ? Even the I get an urge to keep trting mocks, I feel that's not going to help fully in improving. I have many mocks left still and that's not a problem. I have saved GMAT prep mocks for the last.

Thanks a lot in advance to all the kind should how would take time to reply to me.
First off, it's great to see that you went from 490 to 680! That's a big improvement.

The GMAT does not test different concepts at different score levels. That is, it is the application, and not the basic set of concepts, that becomes tougher as we go up in score. In fact, the GMAT has to give roughly the same number of questions on each concept to every test taker. So to get from 680 to 740 you'd have to get better at whatever you're already doing, unless you have some major weaknesses that need to be worked on.

If I were you, I'd take a GMATPrep soon to get a better idea of where I was in my prep.
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02 Sep 2018, 11:50

Based on your CAT Scores, you've made some really nice progress since you took your original CAT. I'd like to know a bit more about how you took your CATs:

1) On what date did you take each CAT and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

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02 Sep 2018, 11:59
EMPOWERgmatRichC wrote:

Based on your CAT Scores, you've made some really nice progress since you took your original CAT. I'd like to know a bit more about how you took your CATs:

1) On what date did you take each CAT and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?
2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?
3) Did you take them at home?
4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?
5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?
6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

GMAT assassins aren't born, they're made,
Rich

1) On what date did you take each CAT and how did you score on EACH (including the Quant and Verbal Scaled Scores for EACH)?

Sanath - last one I took 2 days back. Veritas . Q47 V33

1 week back Manhattan Q47 V34

2 weeks back Kaplan Q48 V35

2) Did you take the ENTIRE CAT each time (including the Essay and IR sections)?

Only verbal n quant. Never took IR and easy so far

3) Did you take them at home?

Yes

4) Did you take them at the same time of day as when you plan to take your Official GMAT?

No. It was at various different time

5) Did you ever do ANYTHING during your CATs that you couldn't do on Test Day (pause the CAT, skip sections, take longer breaks, etc.)?

No

6) Did you ever take a CAT more than once? Had you seen any of the questions BEFORE (re: on a prior CAT, in an online forum or in a practice set)?

No. No.

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02 Sep 2018, 13:22

Based on the information that you have provided, there's a question as to how accurate these CAT results actually are. Test Day is a rather specific 'event' - the details are specific and they matter, so you have to train as best as you can for all of them. The more realistic you can make your CATs, the more likely the score results are to be accurate. The more you deviate, the more "inflated" your practice scores can become - and that's likely what has happened here. By skipping sections, taking the CATs at home, taking them at different times of day, etc., you have NOT been properly training for the FULL GMAT 'experience.'

Test Day involves a variety of really specific steps and parameters (including steps before the Test even begins - such as leaving your home, traveling, etc.). Every factor matters, including the psychological ones. When you sit down on Test Day, you KNOW that you're going to be in the Computer Lab for about 3.5 hours - but if you're just taking individual sections (or taking a CAT without the Essay and IR sections), then you KNOW that you'll be done in 1-2 hours. The attitude and energy that you use during practice will NOT be a match for what you'll need on Test Day, so it's not a proper way to practice.

Thankfully, these are all relatively easy issues to fix - but you have to take the necessary steps to take your future CATs in as realistic a fashion as possible. Since you just took a practice CAT 2 days ago, you should not take your next CAT for at least another week or two. When you do, I strongly recommend that you take one of the Official GMAC CATs and take it in a realistic fashion (take the FULL CAT - with the Essay and IR sections, take it away from your home, at the same time of day as when you'll take the Official GMAT, etc.). Once you have that score, you should report back here and we can discuss how best to proceed.

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07 Sep 2018, 15:40

I’m glad you reached out, and I’m happy to help. The good news is that 650 is a great starting point. With some more focused and dedicated prep, you should be able to improve your GMAT score. Remember, it's possible to score 650 without fully understanding some topics or refining certain skills. To score Q50/V40, your preparation is going to have to be more complete, meaning that you have to go through GMAT quant and verbal carefully to find your exact weaknesses, fill gaps in your knowledge, and strengthen your skills. The overall process will be to learn all about how to answer question types with which you currently aren't very comfortable and do dozens of practice questions category by category, basically driving up your score point by point. When you do dozens of questions of the same type one after the other, you learn just what it takes to get questions of that type correct consistently. If you aren't getting close to 90 percent of questions of a certain type correct, go back and seek to better understand how that type of question works, and then do more questions of that type until you get to around at least 90 percent accuracy in your training. If you get 100 percent of some sets correct, even better.

For example, if you find that you are not strong in answering Number Properties questions, then carefully review the conceptual underpinnings of how to answer Number Properties questions and practice by answering 50 or more questions just from Number Properties: LCM, GCF, units digit patterns, divisibility, remainders, etc. When you are working on learning to answer questions of a particular type, start off taking your time, and then seek to speed up as you get more comfortable answering questions of that type. As you do such practice, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get right. If you got a remainder question wrong, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not properly apply the remainder formula? Was there a concept you did not understand in the question? By carefully analyzing your mistakes, you will be able to efficiently fix your weaknesses and in turn improve your GMAT quant skills. Number Properties is just one example; follow this process for all quant topics.

Each time you strengthen your understanding of a topic and your skill in answering questions of a particular type, you increase your odds of hitting your score goal. You know that there are types of questions that you are happy to see and types that you would rather not see, and types of questions that you take a long time to answer correctly. Learn to more effectively answer the types of questions that you would rather not see, and make them into your favorite types. Learn to correctly answer in two minutes or less questions that you currently take five minutes to answer. By finding, say, a dozen weaker quant areas and turning them into strong areas, you will make great progress toward hitting your quant score goal. If a dozen areas turn out not to be enough, strengthen some more areas.

You can work on verbal in a similar manner. Let’s say you are reviewing Critical Reasoning. Be sure that you practice a large number of Critical Reasoning questions: Strengthen and Weaken the Argument, Resolve the Paradox, find the Conclusion, Must be True, etc. As you go through the questions, do a thorough analysis of each question that you don't get correct. If you missed a weaken question, ask yourself why. Did you make a careless mistake? Did you not recognize what the question was asking? Did you skip over a key detail in an answer choice? Getting GMAT verbal questions right is a matter of what you know, what you see, and what you do. So, any time that you don't get one right, you can seek to identify what you would have had to know in order to get the right answer, what you had to see that you didn't see, and what you could have done differently to arrive at the correct answer.

So, work on accuracy and generally finding correct answers, work on specific weaker areas one by one to make them strong areas, and when you take a practice GMAT or the real thing, take all the time per question available to do your absolute best to get right answers consistently. The GMAT is essentially a game of seeing how many right answers you can get in the time allotted. Approach the test with that conception in mind, and focus intently on the question in front of you with one goal in mind: getting a CORRECT answer.

In order to follow the path described above, you may need some new verbal and quant materials, so take a look at the GMAT Club reviews for the best quant and verbal courses.

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