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20 Sep 2022, 10:32
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If (B-variant) was given, then we cant say if the book was written AFTER 1165 specifically
At the very minimum, can't we say that the book wasn't written before 1165, since the book describes events that "occurred in 1165"? I mean, unless the author was psychic, or has specific foreknowledge, or wrote about events and then caused those events -- theoretically possible, but totally unfounded in the argument -- the description had to come after the events being described.
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Who is proscribing the year 1165?
Is the text itself proscribing that the events (described in the text) OCCURED in 1165
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Is the text just describing events. Then we historians LATER ON are MAPPING those events to the year 1165 ?
Who is doing this 'proscribing' of 1165 ?
Can we say or we can't say ?
I thought it was the LATTER (based on SC logic)
Yes, jabhatta2, it's the latter. But, as AnthonyRitz explained, it's irrelevant. I mean, how would you react if you found a text that appears to have been written in 1910, that describes in detail the events of World War II? The text itself doesn't say that these events took place in 1939-1945, but we all know that they did. Wouldn't you question how a 1910 text could possibly describe events that hadn't yet happened? Does it really matter whether the text itself mentions the years 1939-1945?Is the text itself proscribing that the events (described in the text) OCCURED in 1165
OR
Is the text just describing events. Then we historians LATER ON are MAPPING those events to the year 1165 ?
Who is doing this 'proscribing' of 1165 ?
Can we say or we can't say ?
I thought it was the LATTER (based on SC logic)
Take another look at the beginning of the argument:
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Sviatovin is a medieval Moringian text whose author and exact date of composition are unknown. However, the events in the life of Prince Sviatov that the text describes occurred in 1165
What was your reaction, when you took a pause at that point? Did you not infer that the text must have been written no earlier than the year 1165? If not, that was your first mistake. 
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Hi avigutman AnthonyRitz - thank you so much for your inputs.
What both of you said in the posts just above make sense. - the book was definitely written AFTER 1165 (that cannot be disputable) - I did not make that inference. I understand the logic for this now
The only thing questionable is : was the text written PRIOR to 1167
While we are only left with (c) so we have to pick (c) -- however, would you agree on these inputs on (C) ?
-- Traditionally most GMAT assumptions are necessary assumptions. (C) seems to go over-board
Here is why :
(C) is is suggesting two things
(i) mom / dad / brother / sisters /grandmom / grand-dad / grand-mom / great grand mom / great grand-father / children / wives / cousins = EVERYONE IS ALL listed accurately.
(ii) LIVING / Deceased STATUS of EACH ONE is listed accurately as well.
(C) is suggesting both the above bullet points.
However, I think only DAD and the living /deceased status of DAD specifically is necessary for this argument.
If mom / brother / sister /grandmom .... is listed incorrectly and THE LIVING STATUS of mom / brother / sister / grandmom is listed in-accurately as well --- it doesnt hurt the argument.
Thoughts ?
What both of you said in the posts just above make sense. - the book was definitely written AFTER 1165 (that cannot be disputable) - I did not make that inference. I understand the logic for this now
The only thing questionable is : was the text written PRIOR to 1167
While we are only left with (c) so we have to pick (c) -- however, would you agree on these inputs on (C) ?
-- Traditionally most GMAT assumptions are necessary assumptions. (C) seems to go over-board
Here is why :
(C) is is suggesting two things
(i) mom / dad / brother / sisters /grandmom / grand-dad / grand-mom / great grand mom / great grand-father / children / wives / cousins = EVERYONE IS ALL listed accurately.
(ii) LIVING / Deceased STATUS of EACH ONE is listed accurately as well.
(C) is suggesting both the above bullet points.
However, I think only DAD and the living /deceased status of DAD specifically is necessary for this argument.
If mom / brother / sister /grandmom .... is listed incorrectly and THE LIVING STATUS of mom / brother / sister / grandmom is listed in-accurately as well --- it doesnt hurt the argument.
Thoughts ?
