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Can this tagged to " Complete the Passage " Section
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I was between A & C; tried negation rule, still selected the wrong option - please help
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I was between A & C; tried negation rule, still selected the wrong option - please help



Hi,

A is completely out of scope of this argument.

As this an assumption question, we need an option that must be 100% true, one that makes the conclusion valid.

Now, look at the goal (i.e. conclusion) - we need the time period of Sviatovin. Think whether A is 100 percent needed to get into this conclusion.
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I also chose E, like many other people.

Is this really a below 700 question?
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Sviatovin is a medieval Moringian text whose author and exact date of composition are unknown. However, the events in the life of Prince Sviatov that the text describes occurred in 1165, and in the diagram of Sviatov's family that accompanies the text his father, who died in 1167, is identified as still living. Thus Sviatovin must have been written between 1165 and 1167, assuming that _____________ .

(A) the life of Prince Sviatov is not the subject of any other medieval Moringian texts

(B) the author of Sviatovin intended it to provide as accurate a report about Prince Sviatov's exploits as possible

(C) the diagram accurately represents the composition of Sviatov's family at the time Sviatovin was written

(D) Sviatovin is the earliest Moringian text whose composition can be dated to within a few years

(E) Sviatovin was not written by Sviatov's father himself


Since there is ongoing confusion regarding this question, let's discuss it.

Sviatovin is a text describing events in the life of Prince Sviatov. We don't know when the text was written. The events described in Sviatovin actually took place in 1165. Hence we can say that the text was written in or after 1165. No assumptions here. The text also has diagram which shows Prince Sviatov's father. His father died in 1167 so the argument is concluding that the text must have been written in or before 1167. What is the assumption? That had his father not been alive at the time the diagram was made, the diagram would not have shown him. That the diagram identifies the family composition as it was at the time the text was written and the diagram was drawn. This is what C says and hence is the answer.

E is certainly not an assumption. When you negate an assumption, the conclusion cannot hold. If we negate E, we get that Sviatovin was written by Sviatov's father. This makes our conclusion even stronger (in fact, foolproof). If Sviatov's father wrote it, then Sviatovin must have been written between 1165 and 1167.


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Conclusion: S was written b/w 1165-1167;

The stem says that S was written in 1165[maybe in the same year, i.e, 1165, who knows but it doesn't matter] & that the father died in 1167. So, if the text is not accurate then father may have died in :-

(a) 1165[if text was written in the beginning of 1165 and he was alive at that time, but died later in the year-end, or mid of the year maybe] = S written in 1165[beginning to end of same year],

(b) 1166[text written in 1165 and he was alive in 1165 but died in 1166] = S written in 1165-1166 , or

(c) Even 1167[like the question says] = S written in 1165-67

So, (a) & (b) hurt the conclusion. Hence, Answer[required assumption] is C.
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New post 25 May 2019, 02:58
I've chosen answer choice D, I've worked on each answer choice, can someone review my thinking process here?

Premises: Sviatovin is a text whose author and date of composition are unknown; the life of prince S depicted on 65 depicted that his father was still alive; his father died on 67;
Conclusion: the S texts must have been written between 65-67
Assumption (the conclusion is true if):
1. There are no other S texts found that referred to an earlier period, i.e. before 65;
2. Prince S's father indeed died on 67;

Sviatovin is a medieval Moringian text whose author and exact date of composition are unknown. However, the events in the life of Prince Sviatov that the text describes occurred in 1165, and in the diagram of Sviatov's family that accompanies the text his father, who died in 1167, is identified as still living. Thus Sviatovin must have been written between 1165 and 1167, assuming that _____________ .



(A) the life of Prince Sviatov is not the subject of any other medieval Moringian texts – if this is true, it still doesn't tell us the timeframe when S texts are written


(B) the author of Sviatovin intended it to provide as accurate a report about Prince Sviatov's exploits as possible – an accurate report about Prince S is not enough to tell us about the timeframe when S texts are written;


(C) the diagram accurately represents the composition of Sviatov's family at the time Sviatovin was written

 - if this is true, it tells us that accounts about Prince S father could be true;
(D) Sviatovin is the earliest Moringian text whose composition can be dated to within a few years - the first part "S is the earliest M text" is intriguing, however, "whose composition can be dated to within a few years" is not relevant; if D is true, it only tells us that the date when the texts are written can be several years earlier than 65, i.e. 63 or later than 65, i.e. 68; either way, it doesn't confirm the timeframe;


(E) Sviatovin was not written by Sviatov's father himself - irrelevant
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New post 05 Jul 2019, 04:01
B talks about an accurate report about Sviatov's exploits. The relation to his father being alive to exploits isnt present. C clearly indicates the accuracy of the diagram which is right on point.
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