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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault to lower the underground water level and to dig trenches
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.
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That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault to lower the underground water level and to dig trenches
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.

Any one care to parse why each answer choice is right or wrong.

A, has pronouns that have no referrents [second that???].
E, dont need "the fact" - redundant. You can just say "That educators are at fault...."
C. the 2nd "it" has no specific referrents.

Between B and D, D definitely sounds more pleasant to the ears. Whats wrong with B?
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28 Apr 2005, 23:46
The colon is used to equate two parts of a sentence where the second part is dependent on the first part.

D will do nicely for the sentence. The first part of the sentence "It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology" is now independent, and the second part after the colon is dependent on this frist sentence.

I'll go with D
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29 Apr 2005, 00:05
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mbassmbass04 wrote:
That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault to lower the underground water level and to dig trenches
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.

Any one care to parse why each answer choice is right or wrong.

A, has pronouns that have no referrents [second that???].
E, dont need "the fact" - redundant. You can just say "That educators are at fault...."
C. the 2nd "it" has no specific referrents.

Between B and D, D definitely sounds more pleasant to the ears. Whats wrong with B?

problem with B:
"at fault" = open to blame : RESPONSIBLE [couldn't determine who was really at fault]

IMO the meaning of at fault doesn't fit into the sentence - someone can be at fault. I am not sure if I am clear - Not able to explain it grammatically!
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01 May 2005, 16:18
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gmataquaguy wrote:
mbassmbass04 wrote:
That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault to lower the underground water level and to dig trenches
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.

Any one care to parse why each answer choice is right or wrong.

A, has pronouns that have no referrents [second that???].
E, dont need "the fact" - redundant. You can just say "That educators are at fault...."
C. the 2nd "it" has no specific referrents.

Between B and D, D definitely sounds more pleasant to the ears. Whats wrong with B?

problem with B:
"at fault" = open to blame : RESPONSIBLE [couldn't determine who was really at fault]

IMO the meaning of at fault doesn't fit into the sentence - someone can be at fault. I am not sure if I am clear - Not able to explain it grammatically!

"At Fault" is used in the same context in both B and D. Can someone jump in to explain why B is wrong?
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02 May 2005, 15:01
OA please?? What is the grammatical reason that B is wrong?
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08 May 2005, 19:01
Bumping up this thread. OA please. Also any explanations on why B is wrong?
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08 May 2005, 21:19
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault

Simplify to be:

Something (a fact, whatever) can't be said to be at fault ...

The point in the stem is that the educators are not at fault, not the fact itself not being at fault.
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B is awkward. "That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault " what/who is at fault?
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10 May 2005, 02:30
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(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology.

Some one says that the 2nd it has no referent. OK. But if "it" is changed to "this", C would be right?
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28 Jan 2013, 06:42
mbassmbass04 wrote:
That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault : Alvin Toffler, one of the most prominent students of the future, did not even mention microcomputers in Future Shock, published in 1970

(A) That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said that it is their fault to lower the underground water level and to dig trenches
(B)That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said to be at fault
(C)It can hardly be said that it is the fault of educators who have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology
(D)It can hardly be said that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology
(E)The fact that educators are at fault for not anticipating the impact of microcomputer technology can hardly be said.

Option A and the underlined section in the question are not the same . I dont quiet get this. Can someone help clarify if this is common ? or , how do u read/interpret this ?
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31 Jan 2013, 21:53
the educator is at fault

the action of educator is at falt.

if 2 abose stand alone, both are correct and logic.

similar case is

I like him learning english
I like his learning english

both above sentences are corect if they stand alone.

but when 2 cases above stand together, one of them must be wrong and gmat test us how to convey the intended meaning. one of the meaning will be the distorted meaning.

using common sense to realize the intended meaning, which is "educator at fault" not the action of educator at fault in B

we are often forced to face at leat 2 choices which are both logic and grammatical if they stand alone. we are forced to dicide which is intended meaning ,using common sense.

this is gmat way of thinking and how the test work.

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08 Mar 2014, 15:13
Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D
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10 Mar 2014, 03:36
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Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D

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14 Mar 2014, 16:36
Hi Meghna,

Here is my sentence analysis :

Meaning :
Sentence conveys 2 things:

1) It can hardly be said that it is educators fault that they have not anticipated the impact of micro-computer technology.
2) Alvin toffler being one of the most imp student of future, did not even mention MC in his book 'future shock', which was published in 1970

Sentence Structure :

That Educators have not anticipated ... said - DC ( Subj - That , V - can hardly be said )
That it is their fault - DC ( Subj - it , Verb - is )
Alvin Toffler,... 1970 - IC ( Subj - Alvin Toffler, V - did not mention )

Error Analysis:
Overall we have DC + DC ; IC
That is why I figured we have to somehow make "DC + DC ;" ( underlined ) an IC . But I donot fully understand why all the answer choices are wrong.

POE:
Looking for answers with IC:IC structure

A) Wrong because of structure DC+DC -> cant form an IC
B) Wrong again no IC just DC
c) IC
It can.. be said - IC
that it...educators - DC
who ... technology - DC
IC + DC +DC -> forms an IC
d) IC
it can.. be said - IC
that educators...technology - DC

IC + DC -> forms an IC
e) IC
the fact can be hardly said - IC
that educators are ...technology - DC
whole sentence is an IC

Since there are 3 answer choices that are ICs I got confused. so, I believe i want wrong somewhere in error analysis because I couldnt identify other errors. Meghna, Please help!
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14 Mar 2014, 17:34
Option D seems to be the best option amongst the answer choices.C is too wordy.

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31 Mar 2014, 08:29
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freakygeek wrote:
Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D

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Before we respond to your question, we would like to see your analysis of this question. This way, we can give you a more effective response based on your understanding of the question. Please attempt an analysis based on the three-step process.

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Hi Meghna,
Let me try to answer this and then correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd focus on C and D only as rest is either grammatically wrong or awkward.

There is a shuttle change in meaning between C and D, I think.
C narrows down the educators' set to only those who have not anticipated the impact. So, it could be that there are other educators as well who are not involved here...But the intended meaning is not the same, the sentence actually refers to the (all)educators without narrowing down the set...and D makes it clear.

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31 Mar 2014, 10:13
Hi Meghna,

Can you please respond to my analysis
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20 May 2014, 04:21
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egmat wrote:
freakygeek wrote:
Hi experts,

I understand that opening sentence is Dependent clause followed by ";", followed by Independent clause and we need to somehow convert dependent clause to independent clause.

Can you please explain why each of the answer choices are wrong here ? Especially what is the difference between C and D

Hi there,

Before we respond to your question, we would like to see your analysis of this question. This way, we can give you a more effective response based on your understanding of the question. Please attempt an analysis based on the three-step process.

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Hi Meghna,
Let me try to answer this and then correct me if I'm wrong.

I'd focus on C and D only as rest is either grammatically wrong or awkward.

There is a shuttle change in meaning between C and D, I think.
C narrows down the educators' set to only those who have not anticipated the impact. So, it could be that there are other educators as well who are not involved here...But the intended meaning is not the same, the sentence actually refers to the (all)educators without narrowing down the set...and D makes it clear.

Now, please share e-GMAT's awesome analysis and explanation

Hi eGMAT,
Any update on this ? It's pretty long pending!

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20 May 2014, 06:40
Hi @freakygeek,

This one slipped my attention - very sorry about that. :-/ Thanks @bagdbmba for the reminder.

Thanks @freakygeek for providing your detailed analysis as suggested. I really like how you've paid attention to the structure of your sentence, particularly for your analysis of option A: you are right that two DCs don't make an IC, and you can use that justification to eliminate option A. Having said that, I wouldn’t use sentence structure as the primary focus when eliminating options for this question. Each of the incorrect options has a meaning issue here. Let’s see how.

Option A: Incorrect, as you’ve pointed out.

Option B: Completely distorts the intended meaning. “That educators have not anticipated the impact of microcomputer technology” is the subject of the verb “can hardly be said”. Logically, this statement can’t be said to be at fault. It’s the educators who aren’t at fault.

Option C: “Educators who have not anticipated” restricts the meaning to those educators who haven’t anticipated the impact of microcomputers. However, the intended meaning is that educators in general can’t be faulted, not that a certain group of educators can’t be faulted.

Let’s see how the meaning gets restricted here. Look at these examples:

• The teacher distributed the notebooks among the students who had completed their homework.
=> Meaning: Only some students had done their homework. Only these students were given the notebooks.
• The teacher distributed the notebooks among the students, who had completed their homework.
=> Meaning: All the students referred to in the sentence had done their homework.

While these examples don't exactly correspond to the structure of this choice, I hope the meaning change is clear. "Educators, who have not..." means "all educators have not..." "Educators who have not..." means "some educators have not..."

Option D: Correct.

Option E: Again, this choice completely distorts the intended meaning. “The fact that educators are at fault” is misleading, since the point made by the sentence is that educators are NOT at fault. Moreover, ‘that fact’ is the subject of the verb ‘can hardly be said’. So, this choice says that “the fact… can hardly be said.” This meaning is illogical. If something is a fact, it’s already happened. So in other words, this choice is saying that the fact that educators are at fault has already happened, but it can hardly be said. There’s a serious meaning discrepancy here.

bagdbmba wrote:

C narrows down the educators' set to only those who have not anticipated the impact. So, it could be that there are other educators as well who are not involved here...But the intended meaning is not the same, the sentence actually refers to the (all)educators without narrowing down the set...and D makes it clear.

Now, please share e-GMAT's awesome analysis and explanation

@bagdbmba: I agree with your analysis of the meaning of option C: this option distorts the intended meaning of the original sentence, which refers to educators in general and not to a specific group.

I hope this analysis helps!

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