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The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.


(A) no amount of money or staff members

(B) neither vast amounts of money nor staff members

(C) neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members

(D) neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff

(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money


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Originally posted by acer2knight on 10 Jun 2009, 23:58.
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The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.

(A) no amount of money [singular] or staff members [plural] - incorrect
(B) neither vast amounts of money [singular] nor staff members [plural] - incorrect
(C) neither vast amounts of money [singular] nor numbers of staff members - 'numbers of' is always wrong
(D) neither vast amounts of money [singular] nor a large staff [singular] - CORRECT
(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money - awkward
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C is wrong for two reasons. First, we don't want to say "numbers." We can have a large number of people or a small number of people, but it's still just one number. Second, "number(s)" doesn't imply a large amount (it could be any number), so it doesn't fit with the idea of the sentence, which is that even large efforts/expenditures will not achieve what we want. We can fix both problems with C by saying "a large number of staff members."

D isn't saying that the individual staff members are large. It's fine to use an adjective to describe the group, and this interpretation fits logically. If we wanted to say that the staff members themselves were large, we'd need to add language to make our meaning clearer.
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The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.


(A) no amount of money or staff members

(B) neither vast amounts of money nor staff members

(C) neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members

(D) neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff

(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money

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Meaning : Neither (1) Money Nor (2) staff can ensure the safety of people living in the vicinity of a nuclear plant yet the commission installed the nuclear plant assuming that all necessary safety precautions were taken.

(A) No amount of Money - Wrong usage , changes the meaning.
(B) Staff Members - Wordy
(C) Numbers of staff members - Incorrect Usage and change of meaning.
(E) Wordy and awkward

Correct Answer must be (D) for the highlighted errors in other options, for correct usage of Idiom/PArallelism marker element Neither X Nor Y
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The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.

(A) no amount of money or staff members
(B) neither vast amounts of money nor staff members
(C) neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members
(D) neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff
(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money

OFFICIAL EXPLANATION

• Choice A - incorrect quantifier
-- amount cannot quantify the countable noun staff members
-- amount of ... staff members is incorrect
-- amount should refer to an uncountable noun such as money

• Choice B
-- NOT CLEAR: is vast amounts supposed to describe money only (allowed)

or money and staff members? (Not allowed. Staff members are countable.)

-- Compare B to D. (D) quantifies each element separately and properly. (D) is crystal clear.

• Choice C: not clear.
Is vast supposed to refer to amounts only
OR
to both amounts and numbers?

• Choice D is best
-- In Neither X nor Y, each element is described (modified) separately and properly, creating clarity.
-- the uncountable X element, money, is properly described by vast (an intensifier) and amounts (a proper quantifier for uncountable nouns)
-- the Y element, staff, (everyone who works at a place) is an uncountable noun. "Large" correctly describes staff.

•Choice E - no noun that works
(E) cannot fit grammatically into the sentence because it supplies no noun
that can function as a subject for the verb can.
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The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.

(A) no amount of money or staff members
(B) neither vast amounts of money nor staff members
(C) neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members
(D) neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff
(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money

OFFICIAL EXPLANATION

• In choice A, amount of . . . staff members is incorrect;
amount properly refers to an undifferentiated mass, as in the case of money
That is, amount should refer to something such as money. Amount cannot refer to countable staff members.

• Choice B does not make clear whether vast amounts is supposed to describe money only
or money and staff members
Note that B has a very subtle modifier issue.
IF (B) said "neither staff members nor vast amounts of money," then (B) would be fine.
The meaning would be slightly different from that in (D), but not wrong.
The meaning would be "neither the existing capabilities of staff members nor vast amounts of money" can ensure safety.


• In choice C it is not certain whether vast modifies amounts only
or amounts and numbers
Just as in (B), answer (C) contains a subtle modifier issue.

• Choice D is best

•Choice E cannot fit grammatically into the original sentence because it supplies no noun
that can function as a subject for the verb can.
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This official explanation is very good. My comments are for emphasis or to make ideas explicit.

We have only one answer, and hence our winner is
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Could you please tell me why it is amountS here ?
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Project SC Butler: Day 28 Sentence Correction (SC1)



The commission acknowledged that no amount of money or staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken.

(A) no amount of money or staff members
(B) neither vast amounts of money nor staff members
(C) neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members
(D) neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff
(E) no matter how large the staff or how vast the amount of money

OFFICIAL EXPLANATION

• In choice A, amount of . . . staff members is incorrect;
amount properly refers to an undifferentiated mass, as in the case of money
That is, amount should refer to something such as money. Amount cannot refer to countable staff members.

• Choice B does not make clear whether vast amounts is supposed to describe money only
or money and staff members
Note that B has a very subtle modifier issue.
IF (B) had said "neither staff members nor vast amounts of money," then (B) would have been fine.
In that case, the meaning would be slightly different from that in (D), but not wrong.
The meaning would be "neither the existing capabilities of staff members nor vast amounts of money" can ensure safety.


• In choice C it is not certain whether vast modifies amounts only
or amounts and numbers
Just as in (B), answer (C) contains a subtle modifier issue.

• Choice D is best

•Choice E cannot fit grammatically into the original sentence because it supplies no noun
that can function as a subject for the verb can.
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This official explanation is very good. My comments are for emphasis or to make ideas explicit.

We have only one answer, and hence our winner is
Abhishek009 :)


I narrowed it down to B and D and ended up choosing B.

B. The commission acknowledged that neither vast amounts of money nor staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken. --- OE is Choice B does not make clear whether vast amounts is supposed to describe money only or money and staff members

But since we have a Neither X nor Y structure, I don't think vast amounts can modify staff members (Although logically it might make sense to convey a large number of staff members ...). The same logic will hold true in case of Either X or Y.

Whereas, we can argue that vast amounts modifies both money and staff members if we had X or Y structure as the following-

The commission acknowledged that vast amounts of money or staff members -- here we can say vast amounts modifies money and staff members. (Though I think using "amount" for staff is incorrect.)

Such modifications can lead to illogical meaning as in (few options)- https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-herbicid ... l#p2174424

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Hello GMATNinjaTwo &GMATNinja,

Though I answered this question correctly, I still have a question regarding option C and D. I eliminated option C because it could say "neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members" or "neither vast amounts of money nor vast amounts of numbers of staff members". Can we say option D is similar to option C as well? In other words, can we say option D could be saying "neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff" or "neither vast amounts of money nor a vast amounts of large staff"? If so, wouldn't option D be incorrect?

Would greatly appreciate it if you could please shed some light on this!
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I narrowed it down to B and D and ended up choosing B.

B. The commission acknowledged that neither vast amounts of money nor staff members can ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant, but it approved the installation because it believed that all reasonable precautions had been taken. --- OE is Choice B does not make clear whether vast amounts is supposed to describe money only or money and staff members

But since we have a Neither X nor Y structure, I don't think vast amounts can modify staff members (Although logically it might make sense to convey a large number of staff members ...). The same logic will hold true in case of Either X or Y.

Whereas, we can argue that vast amounts modifies both money and staff members if we had X or Y structure as the following-

The commission acknowledged that vast amounts of money or staff members -- here we can say vast amounts modifies money and staff members. (Though I think using "amount" for staff is incorrect.)

Such modifications can lead to illogical meaning as in (few options)- https://gmatclub.com/forum/the-herbicid ... l#p2174424
You're right about both vast amounts of staff members and the meaning call. That is, we can use neither (a) vast amounts with staff members (countable) nor (b) staff members alone, without anything to indicate the number of staff members (meaning call).

The commission acknowledged that staff members cannot ensure the safety of people who live in the vicinity of a nuclear plant.

This version does nothing to communicate the idea (somewhat crudely put here) that just as lots of money is not enough, lots of staff members are insufficient (the intended meaning of the sentence).
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Hello GMATNinjaTwo &GMATNinja,

Though I answered this question correctly, I still have a question regarding option C and D. I eliminated option C because it could say "neither vast amounts of money nor numbers of staff members" or "neither vast amounts of money nor vast amounts of numbers of staff members". Can we say option D is similar to option C as well? In other words, can we say option D could be saying "neither vast amounts of money nor a large staff" or "neither vast amounts of money nor a vast amounts of large staff"? If so, wouldn't option D be incorrect?

Would greatly appreciate it if you could please shed some light on this!
We should not "distribute" from inside the neither... nor. That is, we should read option C (the portion after nor) as:

The commission acknowledged that numbers of staff members cannot ensure the safety of people...
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