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There are 8 books in a shelf that consist of 2 paperback
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There are 8 books in a shelf that consist of 2 paperback books and 6 hardback books. If 4 books are selected at random without replacement, how many different combinations are there that at least one paperback book is selected? A. 40 B. 45 C. 50 D. 55 E. 60
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Originally posted by pretttyune on 12 Nov 2007, 02:39.
Last edited by Bunuel on 02 Feb 2014, 23:48, edited 3 times in total.
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08 Feb 2012, 03:20
pretttyune wrote: There are 8 books in a shelf that consist of 2 paperback books and 6 hardback books. If 4 books are selected at random without replacement, how many different combinations are there that at least one paperback book is selected?
A. 40 B. 45 C. 50 D. 55 E. 60
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.. It's almost always better to solve "at least one" combinations/probability questions with {at least one}={total}{none}. Total # of selections of 4 books out of 8: \(C^4_8=70\); Total # of selections of 4 hardback books out of 6 (so none paperback): \(C^4_6=15\); {at least one} = {total}  {none} = 70  15 = 55. Answer: D.
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pmenon wrote: Is the answer above right ?
I was taking the approach of first finding out the number of ways of selecting 4 books out of 8, then finding the number of possibilities where no paperbacks were chosen, and subtracting the two.
If anyone can help with this approach to put down what the actual terms should be, thatd be very helpful to me.
i would go about it this way:
total  all hardback
total = 8C4
hardback = 6C4
8C4  6C4
7015 = 55




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No of combinations = p(1) + p(2)
= (2C1 * 6C3) + (2C2 * 6C2)
= (2*6*5*4)/(3*2*1) + (6*5)/2
= 40 + 15
= 55



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28 Sep 2009, 04:30
There are 8 books in a shelf that consist of 2 paperback books and 6 hardback books. If 4 books are selected at random without replacement, how many different combinations are there that at least one paperback book is selected ?
Soln: No. of combinations which have atleast one paperback is = Total no. of combinations  Combinations in which there is no paperback = 8C4  6C4 = 55 ways
Other way of doing this is finding out directly
No. of combinations which have atleast one paperback is = Total no. of combinations that have 2 paperback + total no. of combinations that have 1 paperback = 2C2 * 6C2 + 2C1 * 6C3 = 15 + 40 = 55 ways



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02 Oct 2009, 00:54
Solution:
Total possible combinations of books = C(8,4)
Total possible combinations without paperback books C(6,4)
Total possible combinations with at least 1 paperback book: C(8,4)C(6,4)=55



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Another approach:
Combinations with the first book: 6C3 = 20
Combinations with the second book: 6C3 = 20
Combinations with both books: 6C2 = 15
Total = 20+20+15 = 55
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PHHH + PPHH = 2C1 * 6C3 + 2C2 * 6C2 = 2 * 6!/3!3! + 1 * 6!/4!2! = 2* 6*5*4/3! + 6 * 5/2 = 40 + 15 = 55
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08 Feb 2012, 01:59
I came up with a different (more complicated?) approach.
FIRST STEP: How many possible selections of 4 books from this self including NO paperback? 6/8 * 5/7 * 4/6 * 3/5 = 3/14
SECOND STEP: Subtract 3/14 from 1 (or 14/14) => 14/14  3/14 = 11/14
THIRD STEP: The only answer choice with 11 as a factor is 55.
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08 Feb 2012, 05:30
Do i miss the answer choices?
total combinations: \(C^4_8 = 70\) No Paperback: \(C^4_6 = 15\)
Total  No Paperback = At least 1 Paperback 70  15 = 55 combinations



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# of selections of books with no condition = 8C4 = 70 # of selections of books with no paperback book = 6C4 = 15 # of selections of books with at least one paperback book = 70 15 = 55



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The selection should at least contain one PAPERBACK book. There are a total of 2 PB and 6 HB books are available.
The combinations that at least one PB book will come out are: PHHH & PPHH
1. PHHH = 2C1 * 6C3 = 2 * (5*4) = 40 2. PPHH = 2C2 * 6C2 = 1 * ((6*5) / 2) = 15
In total 40+15 = 55 Ways



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Hmm....so when I did this I made an error that might have carried over from using combinatorics from probability. I found the total as 8C4 and to find the amount to subtract from it I had (6C4)(2C0). Why don't we multiply by the books not chosen and what's would it mean if we did?
I'm trying to understand a fundamental flaw I made here



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manimgoindowndown wrote: Hmm....so when I did this I made an error that might have carried over from using combinatorics from probability. I found the total as 8C4 and to find the amount to subtract from it I had (6C4)(2C0). Why don't we multiply by the books not chosen and what's would it mean if we did?
I'm trying to understand a fundamental flaw I made here You'd get the same result because 2C0=2!/(2!*0!)=2/(2*1)=1: there is one way to choose 0 books from 2 books. Hope it's clear.
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# of ways of choosing 4 books from 8 total books = 8C4 = 70 # of ways of only choosing hardback books = 6C4 = 15
Therefore, # of ways of choosing 4 books with at least 1 paperback book = 8C4  6C4 = 55 (D)



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When I first read the question I understood that we need to find the number of ways to select 4 books with at least 1 of them being a paperback, instead of calculating the number of possible selections, were PHHH = HPHH
Would the answer to this other question be correct, as this might show up on the exam? 2 Paperbacks: 2*1*6*5 = 60 1 Paperback : 1*6*5*4 = 120 = 180



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28 Jul 2015, 16:22
First thing to notice when you look at this question: we're dealing with permuations/combinations. Which to use? Ranking/order doesn't matter here  which means we use combinations.
Next thing to notice: at least one  i don't know anyone who likes these questions! Strategy should be TOTAL  NONE = AT LEAST 1 (our desired solution)
TOTAL = 8c4 (8 books 4 being selected) = 70 NONE = 6c4 (Only 6 books because we aren't including paperback, 4 being selected) = 15 7015 = 55
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a method to solve this problem so there are 2 possibilities either : 1 PB and 3 HB = 2*6*5*4/3! = 40 OR : 2 PB and 2 HB = 2*1*6*5/2!*2! = 15
so we have to add both the possibilities to get the final answer 40+15=55



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Bunuel wrote: pretttyune wrote: There are 8 books in a shelf that consist of 2 paperback books and 6 hardback books. If 4 books are selected at random without replacement, how many different combinations are there that at least one paperback book is selected?
A. 40 B. 45 C. 50 D. 55 E. 60
Thanks a lot for your help in advance.. It's almost always better to solve "at least one" combinations/probability questions with {at least one}={total}{none}. Total # of selections of 4 books out of 8: \(C^4_8=70\); Total # of selections of 4 hardback books out of 6 (so none paperback): \(C^4_6=15\); {at least one}={total}{none}=7015=55. Answer: D. Hi Bunuel, Using PB: Paperbacks ; HB : Hardbacks If the question were  "How many possible selections of 4 books include both the PB" then is why is my following solution wrong ? Total possibility .: C(8,4) Possibility of 2 PB = Total possibility  possibility of no PB => C(8,4) C(6,4) [C(6,4) > removing 2 PB from the lot will leave only 6 books. So selecting 4 books from 6]. So answer is C(8,4) C(6,4) = 7015 = 55



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1. Method : 8c4  6c4 = (Total  All four book selected from 6 hard copy)  This will give atleast one paper back selected. 2.Method : 6c2*2c2 + 6c3*2c1 = (PPHH) + (PHHH)




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