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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.

(A) generated through wind power now than it was

(B) generated through wind power now as it was

(C) generated through wind power now as was the case

(D) now generated through wind power as it was

(E) now generated through wind power than was the case.

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The real comparison is between the energy produced now and the energy produced in 1990. The expression - ten times as much energy as -is the term used to describe the quantum of energy.


A) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was
B) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now as it was
C) more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now as was the case
D) more than ten times as much energy is now generated through wind power as it was
E) more than ten times as much energy is now generated through wind power than was the case

You may see that A and E, use a wrong idiom namely 'as much energy than' and hence can be safely dropped. Among BCD, B and D lose steam because of using the pronoun"it' without a clear referent.

C is therefore the right royal choice.

PS: This post has been edited by me reflecting the points noted by another poster.
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54. There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fosil fuels; more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.

A. generated through wind power now than it was
B. generated through wind power now as it was
C. generated through wind power now as was the case
D. now generated through wind power as it was
E. now generated through wind power than was the case



idiom: as much ..as
D,E --out

it --> ambiguous..
it can refer to energy/wind power ..
A,B --out

C is perfect and parallel.

ten times as much "energy is generated...." now than as was the case<energy generated .. through wind pwoer.> in 1990


Why do u say that "it" is ambiguous? For me is clearly referring to energy.


A tip regarding comparisons!

To compare something to itself, use "it" or "they".
Ex. The legs of chair A are more wobbly than they were yesterday.

To compare one thing to another, use "that" or "those".
Ex. The legs of chair A are more wobbly than those of chair B.

Thus, in the problem above, using "it" would mean that you are comparing some amount of energy to itself. But we want to compare one amount of energy to another.
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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.


A.) generated through wind power now than it was

B). generated through wind power now as it was

C). generated through wind power now as was the case

D). now generated through wind power as it was

E). now generated through wind power than was the case.
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Obviously between B and D....
I think there is no suprise to you :)

I choose D...

Clearly expresses the meaning of a sentence. 10 times as much energy is now generated through wind power as it was generated some time ago....

The other option B, has a different meaning.... 10 times as much energy generated through wind power....meaning the use of wind power has not necessarily increased....

A very good SC....
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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990

A) generated through wind power now than it was
B) generated through wind power now as it was
C) generated through wind power now as was the case
D) now generated through wind power as it was
E) now generated through wind power than was the case

My Answer : E
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For the comparison, "than' has to be there. So, only A and E remain.
I feel A should be the ans.
The change of placement of 'now' changes in the meaning in E - emphasis seems to shift from comparison between period to the source of energy.
Though 'it' needs to be watched carefully, it seems to be correctly referring in A.
What is the OA?
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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990

A) generated through wind power now than it was
B) generated through wind power now as it was
C) generated through wind power now as was the case
D) now generated through wind power as it was
E) now generated through wind power than was the case

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54. There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fosil fuels; more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.

A. generated through wind power now than it was
B. generated through wind power now as it was
C. generated through wind power now as was the case
D. now generated through wind power as it was
E. now generated through wind power than was the case



idiom: as much ..as
D,E --out

it --> ambiguous..
it can refer to energy/wind power ..
A,B --out

C is perfect and parallel.

ten times as much "energy is generated...." now than as was the case<energy generated .. through wind pwoer.> in 1990
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54. There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fosil fuels; more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.

A. generated through wind power now than it was
B. generated through wind power now as it was
C. generated through wind power now as was the case
D. now generated through wind power as it was
E. now generated through wind power than was the case



idiom: as much ..as
D,E --out

it --> ambiguous..
it can refer to energy/wind power ..
A,B --out

C is perfect and parallel.

ten times as much "energy is generated...." now than as was the case<energy generated .. through wind pwoer.> in 1990


Why do u say that "it" is ambiguous? For me is clearly referring to energy.
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your logic of not using 'it' for comparision when compare one thing to another does not fits here.

Can you please throw some flashlight here ?

404. In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than
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your logic of not using 'it' for comparision when compare one thing to another does not fits here.

Can you please throw some flashlight here ?

404. In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than


C is right 'it' is ok as referring to the old copy which was in a different state in the past. Twice is better than two times. Also I feel 'as fast as' is a repetition of rate of increase according to logic.
eg- My tummy has grown bigger to what it was a decade ago. (single objects)
eg- My tummy has grown bigger than that of my neighbor's. (two diff objects)

On the older (the one posted on the top) question, I believe x2suresh makes more sense. 'SaraiGMAXonline' logic is of no use there.
eg- I love the cake as it is brown in color. (right)
eg- I love the topping on the cake as it is brown in color. (wrong: Pronoun ambiguity)

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your logic of not using 'it' for comparision when compare one thing to another does not fits here.

Can you please throw some flashlight here ?

404. In the 1980’s the rate of increase of the minority population of the United States was nearly twice as fast as the 1970’s.

(A) twice as fast as
(B) twice as fast as it was in
(C) twice what it was in
(D) two times faster than that of
(E) two times greater than


C is right 'it' is ok as referring to the old copy which was in a different state in the past. Twice is better than two times. Also I feel 'as fast as' is a repetition of rate of increase according to logic.
eg- My tummy has grown bigger to what it was a decade ago. (single objects)
eg- My tummy has grown bigger than that of my neighbor's. (two diff objects)

On the older (the one posted on the top) question, I believe x2suresh makes more sense. 'SaraiGMAXonline' logic is of no use there.
eg- I love the cake as it is brown in color. (right)
eg- I love the topping on the cake as it is brown in color. (wrong: Pronoun ambiguity)

Please comment.


Let me see if I can clarify. In the problem above, the rate is indeed compared to itself, and thus, "it" is appropriate. Also, you are right yogeshagarwala, "two times" is never correct on the SC.

As for the "I love cake..." example, that sentence is not a comparison, so the correctness of "it" is a matter of ambiguity, a matter completely separate from the issue of "it" versus "that" in comparisons.
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Please comment on the use of 'it'. I believe its an issue with pronoun ambiguity for B and D.
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Please comment on the use of 'it'. I believe its an issue with pronoun ambiguity for B and D.


To compare something to itself, use "it" or "they".
Ex. The legs of chair A are more wobbly than they were yesterday.

To compare one thing to another, use "that" or "those".
Ex. The legs of chair A are more wobbly than those of chair B.

Thus, in the problem above, using "it" would mean that you are comparing some amount of energy to itself. But we want to compare one amount of energy to another.
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The correct idiom is "as X as Y"
that leaves B, C & D

There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fosil fuels; more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.

A generated through wind power now than it was
B. generated through wind power now as it was - 'it' can refer to 'wind power' or 'energy'
C. generated through wind power now as was the case
D. now generated through wind power as it was - 'it' can refer to 'wind power' or 'energy'
E. now generated through wind power than was the case
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1.'More than ten times' is just an expression of quantity and not a comparator. The comparator is actually the positive degree ‘as much’. Now when the un-underlined portion contains ‘as much’ for the comparison, then you must idiomatically complete the comparison with another ‘as’. This means, we have to stay put with choices B, C and D, dropping A and E.

2.We must not misconstrue that the pronoun ‘it’ stands for just energy, The pronoun stands for the entire antecedent that goes to describe the energy namely ‘more than ten times as much energy’; Therefore the use of the pronoun ‘it’ doesn’t make much structural sense. We have to drop choices B and D on that count. We must admit C as the most fitting, though a bit unusual to the ears.

Incidentally a colon is no more than a kind of parenthesis. The things that follow the colon must represent the idea that is expressed prior to the colon, in this case ‘hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels;

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I remember this question in the past when I faced it in the SC1000. I chose this one because choice B and D, "it" refer to no antecedent. After that, I also found in manhattan forum that contain this problem. Here is the topic discussing about this problem and Ron Purewal's explanation:

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i could've sworn this problem was in another thread, but the search box won't find it.

there are two splits you should use to narrow down this problem:

(1) the second half of the construction 'ten times as much ... ____' is as, not than. therefore, you can eliminate answers (a) and (e), which contain 'than'. (i'm assuming that (e) is supposed to say 'than', not 'then'; i don't think the gmat problems would that blatant an error)

(2) the pronoun 'it' is inappropriate, because 'it' must refer to the ENTIRETY of the noun phrase serving as an antecedent.
for instance, the following is an improper sentence: last year's attendance was ten thousand greater than it was this year
in the above sentence, the pronoun 'it' must necessarily refer to last year's attendance, not just attendance.
the problem in this post has the same issue: the pronoun 'it' must refer to more than ten times as much energy, not just energy - an interpretation that makes no logical sense. therefore, all answer choices containing the pronoun 'it' are wrong.

if you don't like '...than was the case', you should learn to like it; this is one of those phrases that the gmat writers use to refer to concepts that don't fit under the usage constraints of traditional pronouns. (another popular one of these constructions is 'do so'.)



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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990.


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A.) generated through wind power now than it was

Wrong use of the idiom "as much as".
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B). generated through wind power now as it was

Wrong, because the "as" is followed by a subject pronoun "it". Putting a noun after "as" is confusing by suggesting functional comparison or by turning the "as" into the subordinating conjuntor; here with the possible meaning of "because". For more about that aspect of using "as" see: Manhattan SC, p. 144.
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C). generated through wind power now as was the case

Correct, because the verb "was" after the "as" eliminates the confusion described under B). Correct idiom form is used too. One may suspect wordiness here, but the sentence is very clear, isn't it? I seldom go for patterns in 700+ problems.
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D). now generated through wind power as it was

Wrong for the same reason as B).
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E). now generated through wind power than was the case.

Incorrect use of the idiom "as much as".
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There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from our heavy reliance on fossil fuels: more than ten times as much energy is generated through wind power now than it was in 1990

A) generated through wind power now than it was
B) generated through wind power now as it was
C) generated through wind power now as was the case
D) now generated through wind power as it was
E) now generated through wind power than was the case


Meaning : There are hopeful signs that we are shifting away from reliance on fossil fuels.More than ten times as much energy is generated through X as it was generated through wind power in 1990.

There are two idioms tested.
as X as Y and X more than Y.

A) generated through wind power now than it was
as much X as Y -> We require "as"

B) generated through wind power now as it was
-Confused as to why B is wrong

C) generated through wind power now as was the case
- Looks good.

D) now generated through wind power as it was
- couldn't eliminate on solid grounds

E) now generated through wind power than was the case
As much X as Y

Can you please explain what can be the error in B) and D). Why "as it was" is wrong. I think if we ellipse on this.

more than ten times as much energy is generated through Wind power now as it was generated through wind power in 1990 -> Looks correct to me.
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