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# Though the term "graphic design" may suggest laying out corporate

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Though the term "graphic design" may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computer graphics, and film titles.

(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging
(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of
(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a widely ranging
(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of
(E) have suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

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Can somebody support me to understand why "has come to signify" is NOT "present perfect tense"?

In the explanation page of OG, it is said that "The present perfect tense is used inappropriately in Choice C(has signified), D(have suggested....has signified), and E(have suggested) to indicate recently completed rather than ongoing action".

However, I see "present perfect tense" in the right answer, Choice B(has come to signify), don't I ?
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11 May 2005, 06:26
Hi, just came across this post.
Indeed even B uses present perfect tense, but in a form which indicates that the action is still ongoing.
However I am not certain why should it show an ongoing action and what is wrong with the completed action. Can someone refute D?
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11 May 2005, 15:18
I would say "graphic design" is singular and "it" in the latter half points to "graphic design".
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06 Jun 2005, 04:44
bump up - can anyone explain why B does not use present perfect?
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06 Jun 2005, 07:26
I can say that I can explain it well. But I will try.

I think for things which are routine or have a specific way, need to be in present tense because they still happen. You use present perfect to indicate something started at some time (specified by for or since) and is continuing... for example

You can say
I brush my teeth.
or
I have been brushing my teeth since childhood.
or
I have been brushing my teeth for the last 8 years.

but I dont think you would say
I have been brushing my teeth.
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06 Jun 2005, 13:01
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Can somebody support me to understand why "has come to signify" is NOT "present perfect tense"?

In the explanation page of OG, it is said that "The present perfect tense is used inappropriately in Choice C(has signified), D(have suggested....has signified), and E(have suggested) to indicate recently completed rather than ongoing action".

However, I see "present perfect tense" in the right answer, Choice B(has come to signify), don't I ?

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Though the term graphic design may "suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging" work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computor graphics and film titles.

(A) : same as above
(B) : suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of
(C) : suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified widely ranging
(D) : have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of
(E) : have suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

You are partly misunderstanding the OG explanation. "Has come to signify" is indeed present perfect tense, you're right about that, so I see your confusion. But this OG explanation is not saying that it's incorrect to use present perfect in the sentence. It's saying the particular usages in choices C, D, & E are incorrect.

Key here is that there is a big qualitative difference between the phrases "has come to signify" and merely "has signified".

They both show a completed action. But in the first, the completed action is the "coming" (snicker). The act of coming is complete, with the result that the state of signifying now prevails.

If you say "Bob has come to my house", then Bob is still be at your house, even though the action of coming is completed, right? If you say "X has come to signify", then X still signifies.

But the present perfect verb "has signified" implies that the process of signifying is complete, and the subject no longer signifies what it once did. That is not appropriate for what this GMAT question is saying.

That is why C & D are wrong. D & E also are wrong in that the correct present tense suggest is inappropriately flipped to the present perfect "have suggested", which changes meaning.

Bottom line, (B) accurately uses present perfect.
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06 Jun 2005, 18:54
Another way to look at this question, is to look at the subject-verb agreement first.

We has 'it has come' ve 'they have come' and 'they' is obviously the wrong pronoun for graphic design. So we can rule out A and E.

Next, we can rule out C as 'widely ranging' is awkward and not idiomatic

Finally, we can rule out as the meaning of the sentence changes with the use of past tense. It suggests that today, the term graphic design means something else other than the layout of corporate brochure and annual report.

B is best
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Though the term "graphic design" may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computer graphics, and film titles.

(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging
(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of
(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a widely ranging
(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of
(E) have suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

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Edited the Question.Typo in Option E
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06 Nov 2006, 20:51
Hang Tuah wrote:
Though the term â€˜graphic designâ€™ may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computer graphics, and film titles.

(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging
(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of
(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a widely ranging
(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of
(E) has suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

may...suggest..

graphic design + singlular

B is my choice.
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06 Nov 2006, 20:58
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Add me to the B list.
widely ranging from is wierd.
Also, I think tha usage of has signified (present perfect) is unecessary here.
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06 Nov 2006, 21:16
C is out 'cos of a widely ranging from

B shoudl be it
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06 Nov 2006, 21:47
Hang Tuah - Welcome to GMATland buddy ! OG10 -11 twice and you will sure not turn back to these petty questions

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07 Nov 2006, 02:04
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A --> 'they' has no clear referent
C --> changes the meaning of graphic design to a noun 'brochures'
D,E --> perfect tenses not required in this instance as we are not emphasizing the timelines of two events

B is the best.
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07 Nov 2006, 13:02
(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging - WRONG (they referring to a singular 'term').

(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of - Gramatically fine.

(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a widely ranging - Changes the meaning

(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of - CHanges the meaning.

(E) has suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging - Use of 'they' which refers to a singular.

So B.
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18 May 2008, 17:11
Hi:
How to chose between past tense and present perfect. OG some times explain the present perfect means action is continuing in present eg : Q 21 in purple book, where sometimes it says past perfect as completed action as eg: Q44

21:
it is possible that native americans originally have migrated to the Weestern Hemisphere over a bridge of land that once existed between siberia and alaska.

is wrong because "have migrated" means migration is continuing.
44)
Though t he term"graphic design' may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reporrts, they have come to signfy widely ranging work

"suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reporrts, it has signfied a wide range of work" is wrong because has signfied means action is completed in past.

any explaination will help ..
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18 May 2008, 17:32
Present perfect implies that the verb occurred in the past and is still going on. In case 1 "have migrated" is incorrect. The migration is over. Simply "migrated" is best there.

Case 2. "they have come to signify" is wrong , it should be "it has come to signify" for obvious SV issues. The usage of has is correct here. It implies that the "term" means something currently and not that the term meant something in the past.
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18 May 2008, 17:56
BSD lover:

My confusion whether to treat present perfect as something currently going on OR something in past.

For Q21 : OG explains "Have migrated" as migration is currently going on.
For Q44 : OG explains "has signfiied" as completed action.

How do we explain for present perfect - acyion currently going on - action completed ?

Do we figure out based on meaning of entire sentence ?

thnks,
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18 May 2008, 18:06
i guess i have found a way to explain my self.

present perfect implies 2 conditions :
1. started in past
2. and continuing in present.
based on this we can 3 wrong usage :
Q 21 is wrong because of (2) reason
Q44 is wrong because of 1) reason

I guess u were sayingg the same thingg .
thnks,
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18 May 2008, 22:15
Yup thats right - present perfect = action still going on. Simple rule but easy to get wrong.
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Though the term “graphic design” may suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging work, from package designs and company logotypes to signs, book jackets, computer graphics, and film titles.

(A) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging
(B) suggest laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, it has come to signify a wide range of
(C) suggest corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified widely ranging
(D) have suggested corporate brochure and annual report layout, it has signified a wide range of
(E) have suggested laying out corporate brochures and annual reports, they have come to signify widely ranging

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B

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