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I am starting in the online program at Kelley next month, my wife is starting the process of studying for the GMAT, I'm trying to get an idea of what sort of programs she should target.

-28, citizen of a Central American country (she'll have her green card by the time she applies)

-Hasn't taken the GMAT or TOEFL yet but I think she'll be able to get high 600s/low 700s on the former and...pass?...the latter (I have no idea how TOEFL scoring works)

-BA in Chinese Education from one of the top 3 universities in Taiwan, GPA equivalent to a 3.5

-Fluent in Spanish, Mandarin, and English

-3-4 years work experience at a Taiwanese manufacturing company selling components to Latin America, previously worked at her country's embassy in Taiwan; also was hired for a managerial position at a well-known (and pretty notorious) multinational in mainland China but left after 2 months to move to the US with me

-Military wife (dunno if this matters, I'll be out by next fall anyway)


Complicating the situation is the fact that I'll be getting out of the military next summer and have no idea where I'll get a job, although we'd like to stay in the Pacific NW, Texas, NC, DC area, Philly area, or Asia. She's lukewarm on the idea of doing full-time school instead of working but assuming I land a decent job out of the military (and then should get another upgrade a year or so later when I get my MBA) I'm hoping to keep her mind open to it.

I've encouraged her to look at the online programs I applied to (Kelley, Kenan-Flagler, WP Carey) as well as the PT and FT programs located in the areas I mentioned, but does she have a shot at M7 if she gets, say, 720 on the GMAT? What about 700 (figure probably not but not out of the question given her background)?


Thanks in advance

Hey there good sir!

So actually your wife has a really interesting profile. There are gonna be very few candidates with that Latin America/China mix, and she can think about how to use that to her best advantage.

Her work experience seems a bit on the low side, but hey! That's a reason for doing an MBA! And if she other other positives (like unique profile, being female, etc) she can likely make an interesting application.

I don't really have enough info right now, to tell you EXACTLY where she should/could apply (I need more info about work, detail about Extra curricular activities, UG school, volunteer work, etc), but let's start by putting it this way: if she hits the upper end of that range, she can have lots of great options. So she should buckle down and knock that GMAT out of the water if this is something she wants to do.

I also think that due to timing of your military assignment, its a rare case where if she applied R2/R3 she would not be penalized by doing so (cause you have really good life reasons).

Personally, I wouldn't suggest an Online MBA, but a regular FT MBA, once you know where you will be assigned (And maybe you can get someone to give you a hint a wee bit earlier ;) )

If there's any other way I can advise, just drop a line,

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Thanks for the response!

I'm actually getting out of the military altogether next year--at which point I'll be about halfway through Kelley's online program--and am targeting jobs that will let me get to work with or in Asia (I'm at an intermediate level in Mandarin thanks to DLI--not fluent like my wife, but well beyond a few semesters of college classes), hence the locations I'm looking at. There are various personal reasons why looking at FT, PT, and online MBAs are all worthwhile--for online, mainly that we have no idea where we'll be living the next few years and may end up living in Asia at some point in the next year or two then moving back to the US, and I figure an online MBA from Kelley or Kenan-Flagler would carry more weight in HK/Shanghai/Singapore/Taipei than a FT MBA from HKUST etc would in the US.

Her UG was top 2-3 in Taiwan...no idea what that equates to in the US, but Taiwan isn't exactly an academic backwater. We should know where we'll be by January or so--I take it prepping her application then waiting until then wouldn't hurt?
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I am starting in the online program at Kelley next month, my wife is starting the process of studying for the GMAT, I'm trying to get an idea of what sort of programs she should target.

-28, citizen of a Central American country (she'll have her green card by the time she applies)

-Hasn't taken the GMAT or TOEFL yet but I think she'll be able to get high 600s/low 700s on the former and...pass?...the latter (I have no idea how TOEFL scoring works)

-BA in Chinese Education from one of the top 3 universities in Taiwan, GPA equivalent to a 3.5

-Fluent in Spanish, Mandarin, and English

-3-4 years work experience at a Taiwanese manufacturing company selling components to Latin America, previously worked at her country's embassy in Taiwan; also was hired for a managerial position at a well-known (and pretty notorious) multinational in mainland China but left after 2 months to move to the US with me

-Military wife (dunno if this matters, I'll be out by next fall anyway)


Complicating the situation is the fact that I'll be getting out of the military next summer and have no idea where I'll get a job, although we'd like to stay in the Pacific NW, Texas, NC, DC area, Philly area, or Asia. She's lukewarm on the idea of doing full-time school instead of working but assuming I land a decent job out of the military (and then should get another upgrade a year or so later when I get my MBA) I'm hoping to keep her mind open to it.

I've encouraged her to look at the online programs I applied to (Kelley, Kenan-Flagler, WP Carey) as well as the PT and FT programs located in the areas I mentioned, but does she have a shot at M7 if she gets, say, 720 on the GMAT? What about 700 (figure probably not but not out of the question given her background)?


Thanks in advance

Hey there good sir!

So actually your wife has a really interesting profile. There are gonna be very few candidates with that Latin America/China mix, and she can think about how to use that to her best advantage.

Her work experience seems a bit on the low side, but hey! That's a reason for doing an MBA! And if she other other positives (like unique profile, being female, etc) she can likely make an interesting application.

I don't really have enough info right now, to tell you EXACTLY where she should/could apply (I need more info about work, detail about Extra curricular activities, UG school, volunteer work, etc), but let's start by putting it this way: if she hits the upper end of that range, she can have lots of great options. So she should buckle down and knock that GMAT out of the water if this is something she wants to do.

I also think that due to timing of your military assignment, its a rare case where if she applied R2/R3 she would not be penalized by doing so (cause you have really good life reasons).

Personally, I wouldn't suggest an Online MBA, but a regular FT MBA, once you know where you will be assigned (And maybe you can get someone to give you a hint a wee bit earlier ;) )

If there's any other way I can advise, just drop a line,

Cheers,
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Thanks for the response!

I'm actually getting out of the military altogether next year--at which point I'll be about halfway through Kelley's online program--and am targeting jobs that will let me get to work with or in Asia (I'm at an intermediate level in Mandarin thanks to DLI--not fluent like my wife, but well beyond a few semesters of college classes), hence the locations I'm looking at. There are various personal reasons why looking at FT, PT, and online MBAs are all worthwhile--for online, mainly that we have no idea where we'll be living the next few years and may end up living in Asia at some point in the next year or two then moving back to the US, and I figure an online MBA from Kelley or Kenan-Flagler would carry more weight in HK/Shanghai/Singapore/Taipei than a FT MBA from HKUST etc would in the US.

Her UG was top 2-3 in Taiwan...no idea what that equates to in the US, but Taiwan isn't exactly an academic backwater. We should know where we'll be by January or so--I take it prepping her application then waiting until then wouldn't hurt?

Here's another idea dude: If you know you want to be asia based, sure you could go to a great school in the US and look to get placed in Asia, but why not simply study in Asia? INSEAD, NUS, NUT, CEIBS if you like China. Yes, they are less well ranked than top US schools, but still likely stronger than doing either a Top online or PT program. INSEAD notably is the one I would most suggest as it has TRUE global renommee everywhere, even in the US, should you onw day decide to return. Plus you can finish it up in a single year, so there's that too! AND they have a January intake!!! :)

Seems to arrange you everywhere, dude.

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Hi @MantisTobogganMB, yes- your wife does have an interesting background. First of all here's a link on how to interpret the TOEFL https://www.ets.org/toefl/institutions/ ... interpret/ and the score is basically up to 120. A very strong score is 110 or higher but most schools will look at least with 100 +. For international applicants who have not taken courses in US, the TOEFL and assessing English language speaking ability can often be a "go" or "no go" deal breaker. You have to have excellent English speaking ability or you won't be admitted regardless of scores. The speaking subscore is also looked at most closely behind the overall score. Regarding your question on M7 possibilities- it will be an easier pathway to M7 under Central American citizenship rather than coming from Taiwan. But M7 is always going to be difficult- but depending on the score- she does have some strong multicultural experience as well as some interesting work experience. One other option you don't mention is trying to get scholarships from a top 20 program- as I can see that being a possibility as well and there are absolutely strategies for that route also. If you go to our website at StratusPrep.com we'd be happy to do a free consult and give you some more ideas and also explain how we could help with that. Good luck and thank you for your service to our country!
-28, citizen of a Central American country (she'll have her green card by the time she applies)

-Hasn't taken the GMAT or TOEFL yet but I think she'll be able to get high 600s/low 700s on the former and...pass?...the latter (I have no idea how TOEFL scoring works)

-BA in Chinese Education from one of the top 3 universities in Taiwan, GPA equivalent to a 3.5

-Fluent in Spanish, Mandarin, and English

-3-4 years work experience at a Taiwanese manufacturing company selling components to Latin America, previously worked at her country's embassy in Taiwan; also was hired for a managerial position at a well-known (and pretty notorious) multinational in mainland China but left after 2 months to move to the US with me

-Military wife (dunno if this matters, I'll be out by next fall anyway)


Complicating the situation is the fact that I'll be getting out of the military next summer and have no idea where I'll get a job, although we'd like to stay in the Pacific NW, Texas, NC, DC area, Philly area, or Asia. She's lukewarm on the idea of doing full-time school instead of working but assuming I land a decent job out of the military (and then should get another upgrade a year or so later when I get my MBA) I'm hoping to keep her mind open to it.

I've encouraged her to look at the online programs I applied to (Kelley, Kenan-Flagler, WP Carey) as well as the PT and FT programs located in the areas I mentioned, but does she have a shot at M7 if she gets, say, 720 on the GMAT? What about 700 (figure probably not but not out of the question given her background)?


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Here's another idea dude: If you know you want to be asia based, sure you could go to a great school in the US and look to get placed in Asia, but why not simply study in Asia? INSEAD, NUS, NUT, CEIBS if you like China. Yes, they are less well ranked than top US schools, but still likely stronger than doing either a Top online or PT program. INSEAD notably is the one I would most suggest as it has TRUE global renommee everywhere, even in the US, should you onw day decide to return. Plus you can finish it up in a single year, so there's that too! AND they have a January intake!!! :)

Seems to arrange you everywhere, dude.

Best,
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Not a bad idea...INSEAD seems like a very good fit. Only issue would be that we want to stay in the US for 3 years so she can apply for citizenship (after which point she'd be 31-32), but we would be willing to put that off for the right opportunity (ie she gets into INSEAD plus I get a kick-ass job out there).

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I am starting in the online program at Kelley next month, my wife is starting the process of studying for the GMAT, I'm trying to get an idea of what sort of programs she should target.
Hi @MantisTobogganMB, yes- your wife does have an interesting background. First of all here's a link on how to interpret the TOEFL https://www.ets.org/toefl/institutions/ ... interpret/ and the score is basically up to 120. A very strong score is 110 or higher but most schools will look at least with 100 +. For international applicants who have not taken courses in US, the TOEFL and assessing English language speaking ability can often be a "go" or "no go" deal breaker. You have to have excellent English speaking ability or you won't be admitted regardless of scores. The speaking subscore is also looked at most closely behind the overall score. Regarding your question on M7 possibilities- it will be an easier pathway to M7 under Central American citizenship rather than coming from Taiwan. But M7 is always going to be difficult- but depending on the score- she does have some strong multicultural experience as well as some interesting work experience. One other option you don't mention is trying to get scholarships from a top 20 program- as I can see that being a possibility as well and there are absolutely strategies for that route also. If you go to our website at StratusPrep.com we'd be happy to do a free consult and give you some more ideas and also explain how we could help with that. Good luck and thank you for your service to our country!

Thanks for the response. I will point her in the direction of this thread, we're going to be out of town most of the rest of this month so she may get in touch with you guys sometime after Labor Day. The T20 scholarships are a good idea as well. I threw the online route out there because it's what made more sense for me personally (I'll be 33 by the time I get out of the military, between that and my undergrad GPA I doubt I could've even gotten into a T50 F/T program even if I'd gotten my GMAT up to 730 or so, plus this way I can get about half of it knocked out before I leave the service), but you guys are right that F/T is definitely the better option if possible, especially since we'll have my salary to live on.

Her English speaking is pretty much fluent, she does have some grammar/syntax problems when writing, so I think she'd actually do better in the interview than on the TOEFL. We've thought about having her take an advanced ESL class at a local college, which she should be able to smoke plus it would help get her ready for the TOEFL.
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Hey good to hear from you!
Well I can't you much about visa issues, but Im sure you will figure out things on that side. And if her "natural" english is good, she shouldn't have too much trouble with the TOEFL Yeah it requires some structural and grammar work, and being good at standardized tests helps, but that shouldn't be the worry.

Anyhow, let me know what your thoughts are. And if you need further assistance, why don't you both fill our our consultation form (don't forget to write a note that you are husband and wife!) and we will get you hooked up:

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