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Hello everyone- thanks for all the help throughout the application season and it's time to decide where to go. For background, my post-MBA goal is Product Management in Tech. I'm also interested in general management type roles within tech or CPG if PM doesn't work. Have no preference on location after graduating. I did receive scholarship at Cornell and Anderson but not at Darden. Looking for guidance and advice to help me in the decision process. Thanks!
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After considering the scholarships, what are you guessing your all-in price will be at each school?

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Both statements are insufficient when taken together to answer this question.

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Cornell will be ~70K, Anderson will be 85K and Darden full fees (I am including tuition and other expenses in the math)
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Data sufficiency question it is!!

Jokes apart, would you help me understand what additional information you would need to provide some inputs? As I mentioned earlier, I am location agnostic and looking for Tech Product Management. Teaching methods at each school is not a deciding factor for me. Any inputs you can provide will be super helpful for me.
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Hi dattavarsha

Congratulations on your massive success! Multiple admits in one of the most competitive admission cycles since 2008 is an achievement to be proud of, and I hope you're soaking in this feeling to its fullest.

I know you mentioned that you are location agnostic post-MBA, but a Tech PM goal would invariably lead you to the West Coast (and you'd want to be there too).

Of all your options, I would pick UCLA. Tepper would be second (but perhaps you aren't considering it, because of scholarship?) because they also have a strong placement record in Tech and CMU has a great reputation as a tech university. Cornell and Darden don't compare to UCLA or even Tepper's tech recruiting (if your goals were consulting, my recommendation would be Darden, UCLA, Tepper in that order) and you're having to pay sticker price at Darden, so that's a double whammy. Cornell edges Darden out a bit, because of the scholarship and proximity to the NYC tech scene.

Please keep in mind that tech recruiting is not as structured as consulting in most business schools, and would require a substantial amount of grunt work on your part.

Where I'm going with this is that while all three of these schools may have the Big Tech recruiters coming for on-campus recruitment, there are dozens of interesting tech companies that recruit MBAs off-campus. As such, you are required to network and create these opportunities, and it plays to your advantage if you can do so without having to fly in and out of your business school city to the West Coast. UCLA will place you bang in the middle of the LA tech scene and within a few hours of the Bay Area. Being able to have coffee chats with people at your target companies (hopefully things will go back to normal next year) vs fighting for the recruiters' attention during the campus networking 'circles of death' can make a world of difference as you try to find your dream job.

Regarding the method of study, Darden is heavily case-based, whereas UCLA and Cornell have a mix of case, lecture, and experiential learning. Again, specifically for Tech goals, you should look at "hands-on" resources and opportunities at all three schools. PMs are supposed to be problem-solvers, entrepreneurial, and team-players and if you have live projects and experiences to prove those skills (versus top grades in theoretical courses), that's always a bonus.

Hope this helps get you thinking about how to evaluate your options. You can read my post here about how I made my choice between Anderson and Ross.

Are you planning to work on the Ross WL? I think that would be your best option (if they throw in the monies too).
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Hi dattavarsha

Congratulations on your massive success! Multiple admits in one of the most competitive admission cycles since 2008 is an achievement to be proud of, and I hope you're soaking in this feeling to its fullest.

I know you mentioned that you are location agnostic post-MBA, but a Tech PM goal would invariably lead you to the West Coast (and you'd want to be there too).

Of all your options, I would pick UCLA. Tepper would be second (but perhaps you aren't considering it, because of scholarship?) because they also have a strong placement record in Tech and CMU has a great reputation as a tech university. Cornell and Darden don't compare to UCLA or even Tepper's tech recruiting (if your goals were consulting, my recommendation would be Darden, UCLA, Tepper in that order) and you're having to pay sticker price at Darden, so that's a double whammy. Cornell edges Darden out a bit, because of the scholarship and proximity to the NYC tech scene.

Please keep in mind that tech recruiting is not as structured as consulting in most business schools, and would require a substantial amount of grunt work on your part.

Where I'm going with this is that while all three of these schools may have the Big Tech recruiters coming for on-campus recruitment, there are dozens of interesting tech companies that recruit MBAs off-campus. As such, you are required to network and create these opportunities, and it plays to your advantage if you can do so without having to fly in and out of your business school city to the West Coast. UCLA will place you bang in the middle of the LA tech scene and within a few hours of the Bay Area. Being able to have coffee chats with people at your target companies (hopefully things will go back to normal next year) vs fighting for the recruiters' attention during the campus networking 'circles of death' can make a world of difference as you try to find your dream job.

Regarding the method of study, Darden is heavily case-based, whereas UCLA and Tepper have a mix of case, lecture, and experiential learning. Again, specifically for Tech goals, you should look at "hands-on" resources and opportunities at all three schools. PMs are supposed to be problem-solvers, entrepreneurial, and team-players and if you have live projects and experiences to prove those skills (versus top grades in theoretical courses), that's always a bonus.

Hope this helps get you thinking about how to evaluate your options. You can read my post here about how I made my choice between Anderson and Ross.

Are you planning to work on the Ross WL? I think that would be your best option (if they throw in the monies too).
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Hi variantguy

Thank you for such a detailed response and the wishes. This really helps a lot and gives me some great insights and points to consider. The link you shared also lists out great points to learn more about Anderson. I have been talking to lot of alums and current students at these schools as well to get their point of view.

I am also planning to consider Ross but am weighing my options with the current admit list. Yes, I wasn't considering Tepper as I didn't get any scholarship there. I will reach out to you separately to learn more about the scholarship negotiation. I have read multiple threads from bb and other forums about negotiating and would love to get some tips there as well.
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Glad that you found the thread useful. It's great that you're talking to real people on the ground - no amount of forum surfing can give you the same kind of insights! :thumbsup:

My other advice to you would be to try and visualize your MBA life at each of the schools - professionally, socially, and personally - as you continue to get more data points. It's easy to focus on the post-MBA life and the "outcomes" and while it's not wrong, it can lead you to make a not-so-informed decision. Depending on things that matter more/less to you, do keep a mental list of parameters (and weights) as you make this decision.

The best part? You can't go wrong here. :)

Cheers and feel free to DM me for scholarships negotiation and any other questions that you may have.

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Hi variantguy

Thank you for such a detailed response and the wishes. This really helps a lot and gives me some great insights and points to consider. The link you shared also lists out great points to learn more about Anderson. I have been talking to lot of alums and current students at these schools as well to get their point of view.

I am also planning to consider Ross but am weighing my options with the current admit list. Yes, I wasn't considering Tepper as I didn't get any scholarship there. I will reach out to you separately to learn more about the scholarship negotiation. I have read multiple threads from bb and other forums about negotiating and would love to get some tips there as well.
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My signature contains a link to the GMATClub's ranking of FT MBA programs in the US ... and ... a link to the Financial Aid Consideration Curve, which might help assess the relative amount of scholarship you should be looking for from a school in a lower tier in order to make it reasonably competitive with a school in a higher tier.

Good luck to you!

PS -- With this info, I'd probably take Johnson.