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555-605 (Medium)|   Percent and Interest Problems|                     
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what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

The questions states "remaining employees".
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can do the same with smaller no.(though in thsi sum the numbers are easy to divide) this method will be very useful later

consider total members 90. 30 Cl.... 10 left

so 20/80=25%
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I'm new to this community, what do you suggest is the best way for me to post my questions? I need lots of help with quant. Should I find a thread to post my question or is there a general place to place your questions. Below is a sample of a question, where would place this?

Of the 3,600 employees of Co X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?


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A) 25%
B) 22.2%
C) 20%
D) 12.5%
E) 11.1%

MY ISSUE IS FINDING A QUICK METHOD TO COMPUTE THIS PROBLEM

The figure 3600 is misleading. Since the answer demands percentages and the statements use ratio, we can pick any number to our convenience.
For easier calculation take 36
So clerical employees left = 36 x 1/3 x 1/3 = 4
Remaining clerical employees = 36 x 1/3 - 4 = 8
Total employees left = 36-4 = 32
Req percentage = (Remaining clerks/Total remaining employees)*100 = 8/32*100 = 25%
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Of the 3,600 employees of Company X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

(A) 25%
(B) 22.2%
(C) 20%
(D) 12.5%
(E) 11.1%

We are given that there are 1/3 x 3,600 = 1,200 clerical employees. If that number is reduced by 1/3, there are now 2/3 x 1,200 = 800 clerical employees. Also, the total number of employees at the company will be reduced from 3,600 to 3,200.

Thus, the new percentage of clerical employees would be 800/(3600 - 400) = 800/3200 = 25%.

Answer: A
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Of the 3,600 employees of Company X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

(A) 25%
(B) 22.2%
(C) 20%
(D) 12.5%
(E) 11.1%


Why does (1/3)*(2/3) = (2/9) = 22.2% not suffice?

Thanks!
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I used ratios to solve this one:

From stem - Make a ratio of Clerical: Non-Clerical: Total
1:2:3

Pump that up so its easier to reduce clerical by a third:
3:6:9 -becomes -> 2:6:8 (3 - ⅓(3)=2))

2/8 =¼ = 25%

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Of the 3,600 employees of Company X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

(A) 25%
(B) 22.2%
(C) 20%
(D) 12.5%
(E) 11.1%

If 1/3 of the 3,600 employees are clerical, then there are 1200 clerical workers.

If 1/3 of the 1200 clerical staff are laid off, then 400 clerical workers are laid off.

This means there are 800 clerical workers remaining.

Since 400 workers were laid off, the NEW employee population = 3600 - 400 = 3200

"What percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?"

Of the 3200 workers, 800 are clerical workers

800/3200 = 1/4 = 25%

Answer: A
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We have 3,600 employees.

1/3 of 3,600 are clerical = 1,200

Clerical staff was reduced by 1/3 = 800 remaining

Number of remaining employees = 800/3200 = 25%

We remove 400 from 3,600 because the clerical staff was reduced -- they're not going to be kept as an employee in another role.

Answer is A.
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Of the 3,600 employees of Company X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

(A) 25%
(B) 22.2%
(C) 20%
(D) 12.5%
(E) 11.1%


Why does (1/3)*(2/3) = (2/9) = 22.2% not suffice?

Thanks!
Since it's percent of total remaining (2/9)/(8/9)
8/9 is the remaining employee 1- (1/3)(1/3)
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Why does (1/3)*(2/3) = (2/9) = 22.2% not suffice?

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This is a common trap.

The problem is that the TOTAL is changing too.

The word “remaining” is often an essential marker word, signaling that we must also subtract from the total.

Suppose we started with 9 employees.

3 are clerical.

1 clerical worker is "reduced", so now we have a new total of only 8 employees, and 2 clerical workers.

So, we must do 2 / 8 =
25%, not 2/9.


More broadly, it's essential to build habits for proactive error prevention.

My students find this doc helpful: GMAT Habits for Proactive and Mindful Error Prevention: How to Dodge Common Traps (by [email protected])

I suggest making your own copy of this doc and adding to it, based on your own mistakes and insights.
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This is a common trap.

The problem is that the TOTAL is changing too.

The word “remaining” is often an essential marker word, signaling that we must also subtract from the total.

Suppose we started with 9 employees.

3 are clerical.

1 clerical worker is "reduced", so now we have a new total of only 8 employees, and 2 clerical workers.

So, we must do 2 / 8 =
25%, not 2/9.


More broadly, it's essential to build habits for proactive error prevention.

My students find this doc helpful: GMAT Habits for Proactive and Mindful Error Prevention: How to Dodge Common Traps (by [email protected])

I suggest making your own copy of this doc and adding to it, based on your own mistakes and insights.

Here's 3 more to try, that have similar traps:

https://gmatclub.com/forum/in-may-mrs-lee-s-earnings-were-60-percent-of-the-lee-family-94987.html#p731188

https://gmatclub.com/forum/of-the-800-employees-of-company-x-70-percent-have-been-with-93778.html#p721534


https://gmatclub.com/forum/when-2-9-of-the-votes-on-a-certain-resolution-have-been-counted-128471.html#p1052792
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easy one- can solve it in few seconds.
1/3 of 3600 =1200.
&then further 1/3 of 1200 is 400. So, 400 is reduced

now the numbers are 800 & 3200. so, 800/3200 gives us 25%.
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Of the 3,600 employees of Company X, 1/3 are clerical. If the clerical staff were to be reduced by 1/3, what percent of the total number of the remaining employees would then be clerical?

(A) 25%
(B) 22.2%
(C) 20%
(D) 12.5%
(E) 11.1%
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This is a classic problem that catches many students off guard. The trick here is recognizing that when people leave the company, you're not just changing the number of clerical workers—you're changing the total number of employees too. Let me walk you through this.

Here's how to think about this step by step:

Step 1: Find your starting point
You've got 3,600 total employees, and 1/3 are clerical:
Clerical employees = \(\frac{1}{3} \times 3,600 = 1,200\) clerical workers

Step 2: Calculate the reduction in clerical staff
Now the clerical staff gets reduced by 1/3. Notice this is 1/3 of the clerical staff, not 1/3 of all employees:
Reduction = \(\frac{1}{3} \times 1,200 = 400\) employees leave
Remaining clerical = \(1,200 - 400 = 800\) clerical workers

Step 3: Here's the critical insight—adjust your total!
This is where most students slip up. When 400 employees leave, the company's total headcount drops too:
New total employees = \(3,600 - 400 = 3,200\)

You can't use 3,600 anymore—that's the old total. This is what creates the trap answer!

Step 4: Calculate the final percentage
Now you're ready to find what percentage of the remaining workforce is clerical:
\(\text{Percentage} = \frac{800}{3,200} = \frac{1}{4} = 25\%\)

Answer: (A) 25%

Watch out for this trap: If you incorrectly used 800/3,600 (forgetting to adjust the total), you'd get 22.2% and pick choice (B). That's exactly what the test-makers are hoping you'll do!

The takeaway: In percentage problems where something gets removed or reduced, always ask yourself: "Does my denominator need to change too?"

You can check out the complete solution on Neuron by e-GMAT to learn the systematic framework for identifying and solving all "changing totals" problems. You'll also discover the common variations of this concept and how to spot them instantly. For comprehensive practice with detailed solutions to other official questions, explore Neuron here.
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