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# Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they

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05 Aug 2008, 20:54
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Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if
they are performed in public, they offend public
sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by
feelings of guilt.
If all the statements above are true, then which one of
the following must be false?
(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in
public are not accompanied by feelings of
guilt.
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of
being accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if
they are performed in public are not
accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings
of guilt are not immoral, even if they
frequently offend public sensibilities.
(E) Every action performed in public that is
accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.

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05 Aug 2008, 21:20
suyashjhawar wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if
they are performed in public, they offend public
sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by
feelings of guilt.
If all the statements above are true, then which one of
the following must be false?
(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in
public are not accompanied by feelings of
guilt.

some 'immoral actions' & not 'performed in public' => not 'feelings of guilt'

False, contradicts statement 2) If 'immoral action' => 'feelings of guilt'

(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of
being accompanied by feelings of guilt.

right/wrong is out of scope

(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if
they are performed in public are not
accompanied by feelings of guilt.

could be true, could be false

(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings
of guilt are not immoral, even if they
frequently offend public sensibilities.

could be true, could be false

(E) Every action performed in public that is
accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.

All 'actions' & 'performed in public' => 'immoral'

could be true, could be false

I'd pick A)

1) If 'immoral actions' & 'performed in public' => 'offend public sensibilities'.
2) If 'immoral action' => 'feelings of guilt'
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05 Aug 2008, 23:08
if you are faced with saving a million people versus saving your mentally retarded kid, and you choose to save your kid, but feel guilty afterward about making a "selfish" choice, was the choice an immoral choice?
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05 Aug 2008, 23:50
Argument can be read like this.
All accompained by the feelings of guilt(Condition#2)
Immoral actions may or may not be performed in public. If they performed in public then they must offend public sensibilities.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt.

There is no corelation between the feelings and performance in the argument.
Might be wrong.

(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt.

Not sure

(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt.

There is no corelation between the feelings and performance in the argument.
Might be wrong.

(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities.

--Seems to be the correct

(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.

Not stated in the argument.
Might be wrong.

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06 Aug 2008, 10:13
Its not D.OA will follow soon.
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06 Aug 2008, 10:27
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(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in
public are not accompanied by feelings of
guilt. [ Not necessarily true as immoral actions are accompanied by guilt with/with out performing in public – Hold it]

(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of
being accompanied by feelings of guilt. [ Too Extreme – eliminate it]
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if
they are performed in public are not
accompanied by feelings of guilt. [ May be true PLUS this is outside the scope of the argument too as we are discussing about actions – eliminate it]
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings
of guilt are not immoral, even if they
frequently offend public sensibilities. [Argument is about immoral actions and not about some actions – eliminate it]

(E) Every action performed in public that is
accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral. [Converse of argument – true – eliminate it]
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07 Aug 2008, 10:23
Kudos.OA is A indeed.
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07 Aug 2008, 19:06
suyashjhawar wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if
they are performed in public, they offend public
sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by
feelings of guilt.
If all the statements above are true, then which one of
the following must be false?
(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in
public are not accompanied by feelings of
guilt. -> wrong since above arg clearly states that all immoral actions have two traits
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of
being accompanied by feelings of guilt. ->This OOS whats wrong is not to be discussed here
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if
they are performed in public are not
accompanied by feelings of guilt. -> some actions is out of scope of immoral actions
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings
of guilt are not immoral, even if they
frequently offend public sensibilities. -> same as above
(E) Every action performed in public that is
accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral. -> this is again OOS

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11 Aug 2008, 09:44
I recently read a wonderful post on this forum which said
if X then y then only other true condition will be if non Y then Non X
comparing this with the q in hand choice A is If non X then non Y
I first ruled out the choice then read the other choices got a little confused and applied this rule
finally picked A

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refer to this wonderful link some of the CRs will be cakewalk if one can follow this completely
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11 Aug 2008, 11:37
suyashjhawar wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if
they are performed in public, they offend public
sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by
feelings of guilt.
If all the statements above are true, then which one of
the following must be false?
(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in
public are not accompanied by feelings of
guilt.
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of
being accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if
they are performed in public are not
accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings
of guilt are not immoral, even if they
frequently offend public sensibilities.
(E) Every action performed in public that is
accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.

its sez,
immoral actions has two effects
1) if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities => if not in public, they will not offend sensibilities
2) they are accompanied by feelings of guilt (there is no dependence on public performance => feel guilty if immoral actions are committed)

hence, i disagree with A

my vote would be for E

Every action performed in public (this part is irrelevant) that is accompanied by feelings of guilt (this implies that actions is immoral) is immoral

any thoughts guys?

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