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Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt.
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.

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20 May 2010, 02:12
IMO D

One thing I did was to forget that the question was about FALSE ...just read each choice ....is it Must be TRUE or MUST be False ....in this way ...A,B,C just simple are neither .....D is definitely MUST be False because this is what is stated in the argument

btw: i like your display ...i got a lil distracted by it ..in case my answer is not correct thats my excuse

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Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

Argument Simplified: All As(immoral actions) have X (X If M is TRUE)and Y. Here M : Immoral action performed in public
Y: accompanied by feelings of guilt
X : Offend public sensibilities

So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> A should have Y. >>> correct
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> May be ..May not be..!!
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> We are talking about immoral actions. It may or may not be true
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities. >>> We are talking about immoral actions.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.>>> Every action, If M is true and Y is true, is A. I don't think it's is "MUST" be false case.

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20 May 2010, 03:02
Two things are true of all immoral actions.-> they are accompanied by feelings of guilt.
So, all immoral actions accompany feelings of guilt.
A counters the claim. Hence it should be the right answer.

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20 May 2010, 04:27
OA is A.

nverma,
I couldnt understand the logic below. Can you please explain more on this?
So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

nverma wrote:
ykaiim wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

Argument Simplified: All As(immoral actions) have X (X If M is TRUE)and Y. Here M : Immoral action performed in public
Y: accompanied by feelings of guilt
X : Offend public sensibilities

So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> A should have Y. >>> correct
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> May be ..May not be..!!
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> We are talking about immoral actions. It may or may not be true
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities. >>> We are talking about immoral actions.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.>>> Every action, If M is true and Y is true, is A. I don't think it's is "MUST" be false case.

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Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

Argument Simplified: All As(immoral actions) have X (X If M is TRUE)and Y. Here M : Immoral action performed in public
Y: accompanied by feelings of guilt
X : Offend public sensibilities

So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> A should have Y. >>> correct
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> May be ..May not be..!!
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> We are talking about immoral actions. It may or may not be true
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities. >>> We are talking about immoral actions.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.>>> Every action, If M is true and Y is true, is A. I don't think it's is "MUST" be false case.

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OA is A.

nverma,
I couldnt understand the logic below. Can you please explain more on this?

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ykaiim wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

Argument Simplified: All As(immoral actions) have X (X If M is TRUE)and Y. Here M : Immoral action performed in public
Y: accompanied by feelings of guilt
X : Offend public sensibilities

So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> A should have Y. >>> correct
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> May be ..May not be..!!
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> We are talking about immoral actions. It may or may not be true
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities. >>> We are talking about immoral actions.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.>>> Every action, If M is true and Y is true, is A. I don't think it's is "MUST" be false case.

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@ ykaiim

Let me try again.

All immoral actions needs to have two features/subset.
>>>> if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities.
>>>> They are accompanied by feelings of guilt.

Let the immoral actions be called A.
So all As (actions..plural) should have two features.

Let the first feature be X >>>> X means >>> Offend public sensibilities...so immoral should affect the public sentiments.
X is only true >>> if M is true, where M is : Immoral act in public,.

So A can have X (Offend public sensibilities), if M is TRUE (Immoral act has been done in public)

Let the second feature be Y >>>> Y means >>> accompanied by feelings of guilt...so immoral should be accompanied by feelings of guilt..

So A will COMPULSORILY have Y (accompanied by feelings of guilt) in all the instances of moral acts.

Look at option A: M is False (Immoral act has NOT been done in public), so X may or not be TRUE.

If X then >>>M,
But if NO M, X may or may not be there.

Given: Y is NOT there.

But every A (immoral act) should have X and Y. and the option A states that Y is not there..!!
so A must be False.

I hope it helps..otherwise revert.

This is Kinda objective logic implemented to subjective case.

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nverma wrote:
Two things are true of all immoral actions. First, if they are performed in public, they offend public sensibilities. Second, they are accompanied by feelings of guilt. If all the statements above are true, then which one of the following must be false?

Argument Simplified: All As(immoral actions) have X (X If M is TRUE)and Y. Here M : Immoral action performed in public
Y: accompanied by feelings of guilt
X : Offend public sensibilities

So, If M is False, then >> All As have Y.

(A) Some immoral actions that are not performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> A should have Y. >>> correct
(B) Immoral actions are wrong solely by virtue of being accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> May be ..May not be..!!
(C) Some actions that offend public sensibilities if they are performed in public are not accompanied by feelings of guilt. >>> We are talking about immoral actions. It may or may not be true
(D) Some actions that are accompanied by feelings of guilt are not immoral, even if they frequently offend public sensibilities. >>> We are talking about immoral actions.
(E) Every action performed in public that is accompanied by feelings of guilt is immoral.>>> Every action, If M is true and Y is true, is A. I don't think it's is "MUST" be false case.

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nverma ur the Savior i was really suffering with these type of questions ur explanation helped to solve this question accurately and that too pin point... thanku dude....

I was fed up with these kinda question...And this is the first time i have used this objective analogy to explain a subjective argument. I intend to try this method in complex cases..!!

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very well explained by nverma.

it looked so simple after nverma's explanation.

however, the downside is the ability to quickly apply such objective logic to subjective cases.

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very well explained by nverma.

it looked so simple after nverma's explanation.

however, the downside is the ability to quickly apply such objective logic to subjective cases.

nverma that was great explanation !!

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07 Jul 2010, 01:05
Great explanation NVERMA, thank you !

I would like to demonstrate this through an equation

A=M*X+Y, if M=0 -> A=Y - this is true for all A cases (immoral actions).

answer choice A says us that A$$<>$$Y (A does not equal to Y), this contradicts the equation A=Y.
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nverma that was great explanation
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good explanation but i cannot agree with one thing .........How is that immoral actions don't have guilt ........every immoral action is accompanied by guilt ......

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Nicely explained. I agree with A
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nice explanation

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I picked A too

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wow, I thought it was must be true :D pulling my hair wondering how A is right :/

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A it is...

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Kudos to nverma. It took me good 2+ min to figure out that A was the answer.
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