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05 Nov 2014, 06:44
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Hi Sir,
My Brief Stats are as follows:
UG: Btech NIT Calicut( Tier 2 Engineering College India ), GPA: 6.95/10, Highest GPA was 8.8/10, Class rank: 17/42, No of Distinctions in class( GPA 8 and above): 8
GMAT, GRE: Yet to give I am contemplating something around 700 or 720 ( I have given a couple of mock tests).
Actually my story goes as follows..
Before entering college I had to drop a year during my 11th grade because my dad got a transfer to a different part of the country & after completing my 12th grade I again took a year off for the purpose of coaching myself for the prestigious IITJEE exam.Thus as you can seen I was about 20 years old when I entered college.
I graduated from a tier 2 Engineering college in India ( NIT), however I had serious health issues during my first year of college and hence i couldn't attend classes for half of the semester..( I received 6 F grades because of this..).My dad who happens to be a doctor of course treated me, hence I can provide some reasoning for this in my Essays as well as in some recommendation letters from some of my professors who know me quite well. Towards the end of my college I had began to do a bit of financial modelling and with sufficient interest I had taken up my final year thesis with a professor of my college for a financial modelling and optimization project.
I became interested in this field and again took up another 2 finance project under the same professor, all based on higher degrees of financial modelling and optmization ( He is now an Assistant Professor at IIM Indore). Since I needed time to put myself into this track I had to devote near to around 8 months solely for making out these thesis and subsequently publishing them into an International Finance Journal. These 3 projects have now been published..
I have plans also to present them in a national or an international conference.
After 8 months of research in finance i decided to spend some time in doing social cause work and for around another 7 months was actively working for 3 to 4 NGOs in the field of Child rights, Environment protection etc..helping them with fundraising and campaigning. I was also subsequently offered to become a campus ambassador for a micro finance NGO in helping them find investors for the firms operations.( I am presently doing this apart from my full time work)
Thus after 1.5 years after graduation I joined for a job in Dubai at a reputed I bank.
Along the way I have taken CFA level 1 and 2 and FRM level 1 and 2 as well. Also I am planning to take up GRE Math ( apart from GRE and GMAT) as well some UC Berkeley extension courses to help rectify my academics.( I am not sure how much this helps)
Can I make it into top 10 full time MBA programs ..?( I have just started working..)
Or can you provide me some guidance in stating what would the ideal thing to do in my case if I am aiming for top 10 MBA programs..?
My Brief Stats are as follows:
UG: Btech NIT Calicut( Tier 2 Engineering College India ), GPA: 6.95/10, Highest GPA was 8.8/10, Class rank: 17/42, No of Distinctions in class( GPA 8 and above): 8
GMAT, GRE: Yet to give I am contemplating something around 700 or 720 ( I have given a couple of mock tests).
Actually my story goes as follows..
Before entering college I had to drop a year during my 11th grade because my dad got a transfer to a different part of the country & after completing my 12th grade I again took a year off for the purpose of coaching myself for the prestigious IITJEE exam.Thus as you can seen I was about 20 years old when I entered college.
I graduated from a tier 2 Engineering college in India ( NIT), however I had serious health issues during my first year of college and hence i couldn't attend classes for half of the semester..( I received 6 F grades because of this..).My dad who happens to be a doctor of course treated me, hence I can provide some reasoning for this in my Essays as well as in some recommendation letters from some of my professors who know me quite well. Towards the end of my college I had began to do a bit of financial modelling and with sufficient interest I had taken up my final year thesis with a professor of my college for a financial modelling and optimization project.
I became interested in this field and again took up another 2 finance project under the same professor, all based on higher degrees of financial modelling and optmization ( He is now an Assistant Professor at IIM Indore). Since I needed time to put myself into this track I had to devote near to around 8 months solely for making out these thesis and subsequently publishing them into an International Finance Journal. These 3 projects have now been published..
I have plans also to present them in a national or an international conference. After 8 months of research in finance i decided to spend some time in doing social cause work and for around another 7 months was actively working for 3 to 4 NGOs in the field of Child rights, Environment protection etc..helping them with fundraising and campaigning. I was also subsequently offered to become a campus ambassador for a micro finance NGO in helping them find investors for the firms operations.( I am presently doing this apart from my full time work)
Thus after 1.5 years after graduation I joined for a job in Dubai at a reputed I bank.
Along the way I have taken CFA level 1 and 2 and FRM level 1 and 2 as well. Also I am planning to take up GRE Math ( apart from GRE and GMAT) as well some UC Berkeley extension courses to help rectify my academics.( I am not sure how much this helps)
Can I make it into top 10 full time MBA programs ..?( I have just started working..)
Or can you provide me some guidance in stating what would the ideal thing to do in my case if I am aiming for top 10 MBA programs..?
06 Nov 2014, 05:46
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Hi jayaramgokul - thanks for hitting EssaySnark up for some help!
The most important part of your MBA applications is going to be your professional experience. You haven't told us what you do at this i-bank nor do we know how long you've been working or what your advancement has been. Those are some of the most important attributes that can predict how you will make out in this process. As you know the college academics are not strong so it's great that you've got a plan lined up with UC Berkeley Extension; that can add a lot. You don't need both the GRE and the GMAT and instead you should focus only on the GMAT if you're serious about bschool (rather than being interested in other types of graduate programs).
You will need to write an optional essay to explain that backstory about why you didn't start college right away and your illness. However you should not get any academic references for anything (illness or otherwise) in your MBA apps; all your recommendations should be recent, and typically it's best to have them be from your professional life. The schools don't value academic references nearly as much and it is not a good strategy to go that route.
We do need to see a GMAT score as an important part of the analysis. We're also not clear on your intentions of when to apply; will you be trying for this season? Round 2 is coming up fast and if you're yet to take the GMAT then you have a lot on your plate!! Since you mentioned that you'll be taking some Extension classes then we assume this may be a next-year plan, which is great; those who start early tend to have higher rates of success. You have an unusual background with the work in the non-profit space but that will also need to be explained (multiple jobs in 7 months will raise questions). Your resume will need to be developed carefully to help the adcom understand your experience. The CFA can also be additive - but of course all of this depends on a) what are your career goals, and b) which schools are you interested in. "Top 10" is not sufficient of a target; besides the fact that everyone's "Top 10" is totally unique (here's ours - a Top 19 list, actually, because EssaySnark), most of the schools that we have in our Top 10 are totally different from one another, and applying to schools that are all different from each other means that there is no strategy in place. It's not about ranking, it's about fit.
We can tell you're early days to all of this so we want to encourage you to keep diving in with everything - get more research under your belt - and of course focus on the GMAT, it will matter a lot! A high GMAT cannot completely offset mediocre undergrad grades but it's very important as a first step in starting to offset that weakness.
Good luck with everything! Lots of work ahead but you've come to the right place, there's some excellent resources available here on GMATClub. We hope this helps!!
EssaySnark
PS: to anyone else who wants our take on their profile, you can post your info and questions in a thread here but then please PM us to let us know it's there; we don't stop in here regularly enough and we might overlook it otherwise, and wouldn't want to leave you hanging!!
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06 Nov 2014, 08:16
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Thank you very much Sir for your evaluation.
I think this would help me a lot in understanding about my application with respect to an MBA Admission.Before concluding I would like to share with you some small facts regarding my movements so far. I hope that I am not consuming too much of your time by stating so.
1. As mentioned in my profile I actually interned( not exactly worked)at a couple of NGO( some international and some within India but having offices abroad). My partial reasoning while working with these NGO's was to obtain experience as a part of my extra curricular activity which was a little less in my profile other wise.( I was of the opinion that extra curricular had weight-age for MBA application). Also all of the NGO work had specific outcomes in terms of different social issues( Raising huge funds, redoing a neighborhood school, raising awareness about child rights through campaigns, envisioning people about environment protection, roping in investors for a micro-finance NGO etc) with sufficient media coverage.
The internship experience helped me catch up with particular skills related to pitching, fundraising, managing over people and on top of it an overall feel of how exactly this whole sector works in reality.
Coming to the point I have a side interest( an avocation to be more precise) to initiate a small start up in the non profit sector( This could either be online services or something different) which would benefit a larger part of the society. This can be some thing as small as as information portal website describing NGO activities and its updates and how people could become a part of it or maintaining an online fundraising website to something as big as setting up a small scale NGO itself.( I haven't exactly decided yet)
However I plan to keep this side by side along with my full time job, because this arises primarily from interest and passion in serving the society for a small cause. I needed some experience for this and that was why I committed some time with the NGOs.
Could you tell me is there a difficulty in keeping multiple interests, because my primary objective is to ascend upwards in the Investment Banking industry (I am really crazy about finance, which explains why the last NGO I was associated with was a micro finance NGO).
Would this be seen in the negative light with respect to the Adcoms?(Is this weird?)Can you suggest me something with respect to this ?
2. I have just started working and I hope to gather around 3 to 4 solid work experience before applying. Since I have a couple of years left I was contemplating that UC Berkeley extension courses would help me nullify my poor academic performance.
Just on a smaller note do you think that I should take up a part time MS finance course or a full time MS finance course in place of the UC Berkeley extension courses or would this chosen path( Extension courses with high GMAT) be sufficient for me to break into schools like MIT Sloan, Chicago Booth, Columbia.. etc).
I sincerely hope that you can address me on this issues as well before closing this topic.
I think this would help me a lot in understanding about my application with respect to an MBA Admission.Before concluding I would like to share with you some small facts regarding my movements so far. I hope that I am not consuming too much of your time by stating so.
1. As mentioned in my profile I actually interned( not exactly worked)at a couple of NGO( some international and some within India but having offices abroad). My partial reasoning while working with these NGO's was to obtain experience as a part of my extra curricular activity which was a little less in my profile other wise.( I was of the opinion that extra curricular had weight-age for MBA application). Also all of the NGO work had specific outcomes in terms of different social issues( Raising huge funds, redoing a neighborhood school, raising awareness about child rights through campaigns, envisioning people about environment protection, roping in investors for a micro-finance NGO etc) with sufficient media coverage.
The internship experience helped me catch up with particular skills related to pitching, fundraising, managing over people and on top of it an overall feel of how exactly this whole sector works in reality.
Coming to the point I have a side interest( an avocation to be more precise) to initiate a small start up in the non profit sector( This could either be online services or something different) which would benefit a larger part of the society. This can be some thing as small as as information portal website describing NGO activities and its updates and how people could become a part of it or maintaining an online fundraising website to something as big as setting up a small scale NGO itself.( I haven't exactly decided yet)
However I plan to keep this side by side along with my full time job, because this arises primarily from interest and passion in serving the society for a small cause. I needed some experience for this and that was why I committed some time with the NGOs.
Could you tell me is there a difficulty in keeping multiple interests, because my primary objective is to ascend upwards in the Investment Banking industry (I am really crazy about finance, which explains why the last NGO I was associated with was a micro finance NGO).
Would this be seen in the negative light with respect to the Adcoms?(Is this weird?)Can you suggest me something with respect to this ?
2. I have just started working and I hope to gather around 3 to 4 solid work experience before applying. Since I have a couple of years left I was contemplating that UC Berkeley extension courses would help me nullify my poor academic performance.
Just on a smaller note do you think that I should take up a part time MS finance course or a full time MS finance course in place of the UC Berkeley extension courses or would this chosen path( Extension courses with high GMAT) be sufficient for me to break into schools like MIT Sloan, Chicago Booth, Columbia.. etc).
I sincerely hope that you can address me on this issues as well before closing this topic.
