spring term

Question

hi all,

 can anyone tell me how wise is it to apply for spring term and does universitie's accept spring term admission...

till then..happy studying
empy

Praetorian · Answer

Hi empress

I moved your topic here to the MBA Game Plan forum.

scottshrum · Answer

I'm not sure exactly what you mean. None of the top schools, as far as I know, accept people to start in the spring term. Not in the U.S., anyway. Are you referring to one-year programs? Kellogg, for instance, has a one-year program where you start in June and run all the way through to the following June, completing your MBA in 12 months. Is that what you're referring to?

Scott

empress · Answer

hi ,


 I was actually referring to the class being started in jan...i know all the universities start with a fall session but do these universities also have a spring session...someone told me they do have...not all but some do.The idea is that the advanced classes start in Jan so if i enroll in jan i will have to catch up with the earlier classes....is this correct??


thanx
empress

scottshrum · Answer

Hmm... I honestly can't think of any U.S. programs that fit this description. All of the one-year programs that come to mind (Kellogg, Babson, Emory) start you with a group of other one-year students. In other words, you don't just get immediately "thrown into" classes with students who have already taken a bunch of MBA classes. All of the accelerated b-school programs that I know of will put you through a curriculum specifically designed for students in that program, at least for the first semester that you're there. Once you're taking classes with other students, you'll already be caught up. 

Of course, in order to get into one of these programs, you'll need to demonstrate that you have a lot of business training and experience already. So, catching up should be less of an issue for somoene in one of these programs.

Scott

Andrea_ · Answer

as i know, Robinson School of business in Georgia State univ has MBA programs starting at Jan.

Hjort · Answer

Rochester's Simon School generally has a group of 50 or so students that enters in January and completes the program in 18 months. The rest of the students have already started in September and complete the program in 22 months. 

Rochester is generally regarded as high in the near elite range ("Top 25") with particularly strong coursework in finance and a very large percentage of international students.

Best,

Hjort

Andrea_ · Answer

could anyony advise if the requirements of accelerated MBA are higher than those of usual, 2-year program?

truthringer · Answer

Yes. It is more difficult to get into *most* accelerated programs than the normal 2 year programs. For example, the statistics of those applicants accepted to Kellogg's one-year program are typically higher than those in the mainstream program. The number of slots for these programs are generally much lower than the corresponding 2 year program.

Andrea_ · Answer

have you heard anything about Columbia accelerated program?
they say that the program is good for anyone who don't need internship.

https://www0.gsb.columbia.edu/mba/admiss ... ccelerated

"The program is ideal for:

Entrepreneurs
Individuals who will be joining or returning to family businesses
Students who are sponsored by their employers
Students who plan to remain in their chosen field or who have built a strong network in the industry of their choice
The program is designed for those students who do not want or need an internship. The principal advantage of this 16-month program is its accelerated format, which allows members of the smaller January class to network quickly and effectively and to return to the workplace sooner."

Hjort · Answer

One could argue that one year US programs are both more and less selective than their two year counterparts. Many one year programs in the US are intended for applicants with undergrad degrees in busines/economics or with undergrad degrees in the natural sciences/engineering. Thus, the number of students eligible for these programs is smaller than the number eligible for two year degrees. This is a form of selectivity based on a dichotomous criterion rather than selectivity based on a continuous criterion (eg GMAT or GPA). The continuous selection criteria for some one year programs are similar or even less than those of two year programs. For instance, one transelite school's one year program has a lower GMAT than the school's two year program.

The number of seats in one year programs tends to be smaller than the number of seats in the two year program but one should also recall that fewer students demand one year programs.


Hjort

Andrea_ · Answer

yes, i was also thinking that probably not only the number of students in class is smaller than that of 2 -year program, but also the number of application. hence, the competitiveness rate could be smaller.

scottshrum · Answer

Andrea, I recommend against trying to "game" the system and applying to a one-year program simply because you think it may be less competitive to get in. If you're truly interested for a good reason (e.g., you plan on returning to your current job) and you think your background would make you a good fit, then try for the one-year programs. Otherwise, go the route more commonly traveled. A one-year program may be less competitive in a strict numbers sense (number of admits divided by number of applicants), but this is the wrong way to think about it when thinking about a single applicant's chances (namely, your chances)!

Scott

Andrea_ · Answer

i'm going to apply not because of the possible lesser competition.
(actually i'm only trying to investigate is the rate is worse than that of 2year program )

i'm thinking about this options for 3 reasons:

1)i'm very, very interested in their MBA in International Business and i need it right now for my development.
2)if i'll apply to fall semester 2005 and get accepted, i should wait 1 year until the program begins + study for 2 years.
if i'll apply for spring, i could spend 4 months until the program begins + study for 1.5 years.
it's about time saving as well.
3) the truth is that i'm volunteering now, as i don't have work authorization. 
however, one more year of volunteering would not improve my chances to get into the program - i already have a lot of leadership experience in political/student organizations.
my chances now are not great as well, but i want try it - the sooner, the better...

Hjort · Answer

Not to contradict the fine people who run this forum, but I think it is rational to try to identify market imperfections and turn them to one's advantage. I suppose one could call this "gaming" the system, others would call this the behavior of a rational self-maximizing economic actor. 

Of course, I wholeheartedly agree that it is a bad idea to compromise one's career and education based on the misguided belief that one program is easier to get into than another. 

However, Andrea seems to have extenuating circumstances that might make a shorter program more attractive to her.

Hjort

Andrea_ · Answer

it's opportunity to start from Spring 2005 instead of Fall 2005 that is crucial for me. i can't afford to wait a year...
however, if i'll fail my gmat which i'm taking in nearest future, everything will be simplier :lol:

Hjort, do you find accelerated program to be really less beneficial?

Hjort, do you find accelerated program to be really less beneficial?

Hjort · Answer

Andrea- 

I am not arguing that accelerated programs are less beneficial than two year ones. In fact, they have some obvious advantages in terms of opportunity cost and total outlay. However, accelerated programs are not well suited to "career changers" and others who would benefit from a full internship and internship recruiting season. I do not like to see people compromise their potential by taking a type of program that is a poor match with their goals and needs.

The great thing about a forum like this is that all of us can help you formulate possible solutions.

Hjort

Andrea_ · Answer

it's great to receive such a constructive feedback - it really helps me to see the problem from various sides. thank you guys very much

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